Matic was arguably the only real CDM that ever played next to him right?
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Pogba hasn't played his best for some time, and not booing him hasn't helped him restore form so I don't blame fans for giving him shit. Maybe it's the kick up the arse he needs to put some effort in the next couple of games before he walks away on a free again?
I'd also like to remind you that Pogba originally joined United, despite having an offer from Madrid on the table, because United told him he would get more social media mentions and offered him more money. I appreciate he was miss sold what United are but he's done nothing to contribute consistently to United being successful.
His stamina since returning from injury has been shocking.
That’s the worse I’ve seen him play. But it was a double DM pivot of Bruno and Pogba so can’t blame him entirely. He’s checked out.
Hes not very good. Hes got good moments but now cant even be consistent in a match let alone across a season.
Just watched it….get in the Bruno thread he was stood still doing nothing. I thought he was marking Pogba at one point but he wasn’t even doing that. He literally just stood still outside the box. Also someone let the goal scorer run 20 yards on his own and be unmarked in the box….but yeah Pogba’s fault. Exactly why he gets booed. Exactly why he’s right to run his contract down and sign the best deal for himself.
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I'm painting a picture with words. It'd be boring to say "we've been run fairly suboptimally for quite a bit".FFS, not that nonsense again.
Bizarre to single out McTominay’s performance given he didn’t play. Maguire also wasn’t bad at all and Rashford came on at the same time as the booing and chanting.
I do think it was ridiculous, mind. Pogba was far from the worst player yesterday and it just sums up how toxic this season has gone (and shows exactly why Ralf is correct in not “just playing the kids”)
Making the difference and dragging aren't the same thing. Ronaldo contributed to our success but he didn't drag a thing, he was part of arguably the best team in the world during that period of time. During the following years we went to a CL final without Ronaldo, won the league twice and finished second twice with a combined 1 point difference from the champions.
Originally reported by the Athletic but here's a summary for anyone out of the loopAmazing
https://www.republicworld.com/sport...al-madrid-before-man-united-came-calling.html
can someone explain why he was getting booed? And why there hasn’t been the backing for him that there was when Maguire was booed? And can someone explain why others weren’t getting booed?
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I think Disney Land is run quite well tbf.
Because he's been mostly shit for 6 years and now he's leaving on a free.
Disney's run a lot better than us my friend. They may be a theme park but they own Pixar, make great movies and now have a streaming service. We're just run by a bunch of twats who let their ego make piss poor decisions.
Wales was every bit that player for Wales and still is to some extent. Even way past his best, he's the match-winner and leader, the player who brings everyone else up a level. Of course they didn't win anything, they are Wales
. But qualifying for a tournament is a win for Wales, let alone getting to the Semi's. On Ronaldo, I'll concede the point you are right. He isn't that sort of player, more of the cutting edge and difference in the big games.well the club let him go for half a mil then bought him back for 89mil, then never played him in his favoured position (never bought the kind of kante-esq player that compliments him).. moved him all over the pitch and shoe horned him into the squad most games. Can’t really blame him for not being consistent for us.
yes he’s a pro footballer who should be able to play anywhere. Paid massive wages. Yes he hasn’t helped himself and is part of the worst era of united in recent memory... but united haven’t been perfect in how they have handled/played him.
the sooner he leaves the better for all parties involved. It’s not worked out and I’m not his biggest fan but i don’t think he’s the only one to blame and it felt abit sh*tty him being booed yesterday. They should of booed everyone but Ronaldo and de Gea going off recent performance.
Let's be clear, Pogba detractors are 100% correct when they complain about Pogba's inconsistency. That inconsistency has nothing to do with his role in the team, he was inconsistent for Juventus and is inconsistent for France. Pogba is inherently inconsistent. Now the issue for me is that it was a known fact, you can't blame a player for being what you purchased.
This is a good point, I think the issue is also around the fact he cost so much money and people expected more of a return for that money. A Pogba that cost £30m doesn't get anywhere near as much shit
Ronaldo was that difference….but ok yes I wouldn’t say he dragged us. I only really perceive Maradona as dragging teams and even that could be a misconception.
sometimes the right player in the right team and the right time makes a difference….but the other factors come into that also. Cantona is a prime example.
and I agree with you. United decided to buy him back for 89 million. They knew what they were getting and they definitely didn’t help him to find his best. When you spend that money on a player you should really be building a team around them and doing everything to compliment them and unlock their best. None of that has happened. I don’t understand how a elite football club like this has totally neglected the midfield for so long. Madness.
But he wasn't worth that money. The guy is going to leave this summer and people still cling on a price tag that was bogus. We purchased a Mercedes for the price of a Rolls-Royce.
He really hasn’t. There’s a world of difference between great and shite and there’s a lot in between that. He’s been one of our better players in his time but as ever he takes the brunt of the blame. The club and Pogba need to move on now.
Yep, this pretty much sums everything up really. I'm sure he would have been great in a more complete team but he's never a player you should build around.
i imagine it’s something to do with him running down his contract again
Just read ityeah, he doesn’t help himself but he’s actually entitled to do that. He doesn’t have to sign anything if he doesn’t want to. Might be greedy but perfectly within his rights.
can’t wait for the circus around him to stop In all honesty. It’s a shame it’s ended so bitterly though.
Of course it makes a difference but it's like Van Dijk, he made a difference for Liverpool and is arguably the best CB in the world but he hasn't dragged Liverpool nor has Salah. The reason I care for that distinction is because we build narrative around that concept when it makes no logical sense because we essentially reduce the success of team to one player, it's particularly important at the top where the difference between losing and winning a game is marginal. And Ronaldo's career tells you the whole story, he has won two league titles in 9 seasons with Madrid while being arguably the best player in the world.
It is and I think we'll all be glad when it's over. His agent really hasn't helped things either.
I agree, but win the Madrid thing….you have to concede Barca.
It is a shame. When he first joined I was totally buzzed. After a few seasons my love had turned to loathing but now I'm more neutral about him. He's a player to improve a great side not a player to inspire a great side. Personally I'm not convinced that he's washed up like some are either. It seems it will be better for both the player and United that he leaves. If he did resign on the reported contract that would make him an even bigger target if things went wrong.
Just wait until we sign Rice for 100m
I don't think he deserved to get booed over other players but him and Mino Raiola have constantly talked for 6 years with nothing to back it up on the pitch and I think now that he's leaving, fans are making their thoughts known.
It's best for all parties that the Pogba circus ends.
It's best for all parties that the Pogba circus ends.
Funny how people in the media seem to think he was booed because he hasn't signed a contract, rather than to make sure he doesnt end up signing one.
If I'd been there booing him it would be because the idea of the board making him the highest paid player in the league, not for football reasons but for purely marketing ones, is just anathema, and that approach to contracts is the whole reason we're in the mess we're in.
If I'd been there booing him it would be because the idea of the board making him the highest paid player in the league, not for football reasons but for purely marketing ones, is just anathema, and that approach to contracts is the whole reason we're in the mess we're in.
Things are way too toxic for him to stay. The fanbase has turned sour, not jus against Pogba but most of the squad, staying at Utd, a club whose future is very uncertain wouldn't be wise except he has other offers.
If I were, I'd take a wage cut just to go because at some point some stories have to be concluded.
If I were, I'd take a wage cut just to go because at some point some stories have to be concluded.
The bolded is some of the most flawed logical I have ever seen in my entire life. It's like realizing the flush mechanism in your toilet isn't working after no 1 and you decide to go no 2 to see if it solves the problem.
Antagonizing Pogba is never going to make him play better, because he is already leaving. he could definitely play worse if fans make him care less by booing. Remember when he came on against Liverpool and took a red just to get off the pitch? Right now he's playing bang average, he's not sabotaging anything.
It's been accurately reported he wanted out 2 years ago and wasn't allowed to leave. It's bizarre to hold it against him that he's leaving on a free because of that. Blame the club for not selling him. I'm guessing you're also one of the people that moans about not being to offload players because of fat contracts?
I mentioned the players who've been dogshit recently, just because no one in their right mind would single out Pogba for booing on that performance alone.
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