Hephaestus
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Nope, he got tackled on the halfway line once followed by all of his team failing to defend so we're just gonna ignore all of the brilliance and blame him for the defeat.Look at that
Nope, he got tackled on the halfway line once followed by all of his team failing to defend so we're just gonna ignore all of the brilliance and blame him for the defeat.Look at that
I can’t recall another player ever who has lost the ball in the oppositions half and get blamed for a goal. He got tackled. It happens all the time, players get tackled. I honestly can’t think of another instance with a different player. Anytime Pogba gets tackled it’s getting scrutinised. It’s unrealistic that a player never loses a ball in any area of the pitch. Fair enough around your own box, but aside from that it’s simply football.
Majestic performance tonight from Pogba
Exactly this. Mind you Neville doesnt help with his “analysis”Ridiculous the level of nitpicking he endures Hundreds of balls get lost in midfield every game. It's the nature of football
Pogba's fault though.
I worry a bit with us going for VaraneWere they thinking Swiss player was driving a truck? That gap, the way defender was beaten so easily as comical defending.
No I’ve only seen around 50 matches or so. Maybe I should watch more.have you watched many games of football? He played very well - but to say it’s one of the best individual performances you’ve seen is either completely OTT, or your pool of matches is really small.
Neville piling in with the 'best and worse of Pogba' bullshit. The agenda against him is crazy. If Grealish puts in a performance like that tomorrow, he'd be foaming at the mouth.
As other have already stressed, losing the ball in the halfway line when under pressure, doesn't make you at fault for thr goal. Where was Kante for that goal (or the entire game in fact). Not to mention Kimpembe hitting the deck too easily.
Pogba was world class tonight.
Fergie blamed Nani for losing against Chelsea because he gave it away near Chelsea's corner flag.
I don't agree with Pogba being blamed but that sort of thing happens all the time.
He’s a phenomenal player.
@Ali Dia I must say I’m disappointed in you, after the progress you made this season you have reverted to type since the Euros, coming in to seek to provide mitigation for any Pog-praise.
I’m not sure some people understand football. Actually, I think they do, but are wilfully taking the opportunity to be ignorant here. If you are caught in possession on the 18 yard line and concede, fair enough - the goal is ‘your fault’. If you are tackled literally on the halfway line, and you get the misfortune of your team going on to concede, I’ve never seen a goal blamed on you in such scenario. Of course, if Pogba lost the ball doing stepovers, I’d even understand it. But the pass back from Benzema wasn’t smart in the first place, and as soon as he touched it, an opponent was on his touch. That is football.
There was a point late on where Pogba robbed the ball from someone and broke forward and was fouled as he passed to Mbappé. If France scored, no way would the goal be blamed on the person Pogba got the ball from. That’s not how football works.
He was going forwards and they said so too but he's the reason the game went to extra time. Sloppy mistake..
This sums it up for me. Never seen a player so blatantly targeted by media like this. It's unsavoury at this point.Him getting any amount of caning for tonight's performance is grotesque.
Pogba's fault though.
He won't though. As good as he is, he can't put a performance like that.
Many will still act like there’s no agenda. It’s genuinely sickening to me.This sums it up for me. Never seen a player so blatantly targeted by media like this. It's unsavoury at this point.
Rabiot is not a world class baller.Not at all man. I totally appreciate the chats we had and his performances for us the second half of the season. You turned me around on him. The class on the ball he possesses and his unique movement and style. It’s just how do we fit him in without regularly getting overran or giving away soft ball when we should have the momentum? Everyone used his performances in this Euros to shit on the hardworking ever present lads we have here too. That’s really annoying.
I’m sick of people saying get rid of Fred and Mct who have us in second place and stick pogba in beside Rice/Kante/Fabinhio and Bruno and we’d be fine. We really wouldn’t. We’d be carved open way too often. I really want him to fit! I wish he had that aggression and intensity to get up and down and stuck in but he doesn’t. He’s an artist but that not what we need in the middle. He’s good on the left or in Bruno’s spot but I still prefer Bruno leadership, workrate and intensity for the PL.
We saw there with Kante and Rabiot. Two world class ballers. It doesn’t matter. You can score and assist and play beautifully but if you prone to switch off even poor teams like Switzerland are going to punish you. France are one of the most stacked international teams in recent history and they should be winning that 3-1 and going through
Midfielders of his type lose the ball in the middle of the park at times. Poor defending after that cost the goal
So nothing else happened during that match other than a lost ball in midfield? No, you’re blaming him because you want to, and you either don’t understand or are ignoring every other circumstance. Also, Rabiot world class He was as much to blame for Switzerland’s second goal according to your standards, and of course you’ve yet to acknowledge all the chances squandered that he created. Get a clue or try to be objective.Not at all man. I totally appreciate the chats we had and his performances for us the second half of the season. You turned me around on him. The class on the ball he possesses and his unique movement and style. It’s just how do we fit him in without regularly getting overran or giving away soft ball when we should have the momentum? Everyone used his performances in this Euros to shit on the hardworking ever present lads we have here too. That’s really annoying.
I’m sick of people saying get rid of Fred and Mct who have us in second place and stick pogba in beside Rice/Kante/Fabinhio and Bruno and we’d be fine. We really wouldn’t. We’d be carved open way too often. I really want him to fit! I wish he had that aggression and intensity to get up and down and stuck in but he doesn’t. He’s an artist but that not what we need in the middle. He’s good on the left or in Bruno’s spot but I still prefer Bruno leadership, workrate and intensity for the PL.
We saw there with Kante and Rabiot. Two world class ballers. It doesn’t matter. You can score and assist and play beautifully but if you prone to switch off even poor teams like Switzerland are going to punish you. France are one of the most stacked international teams in recent history and they should be winning that 3-1 and going through
Keano spot on again
Nor does being on the halfway line absolve him of guilt, it was obviously a factor in their goal.Neville piling in with the 'best and worse of Pogba' bullshit. The agenda against him is crazy. If Grealish puts in a performance like that tomorrow, he'd be foaming at the mouth.
As other have already stressed, losing the ball in the halfway line when under pressure, doesn't make you at fault for the goal. Where was Kante for that goal (or the entire game in fact). Not to mention Kimpembe hitting the deck too easily.
Pogba was world class tonight.
Utter and absolute comedic level of bollocks. He lost the ball in midfield surrounded by three players.France had players in front of the ball when they should have been seeing out the game. After the ball was lost both Swiss players that touched the ball were not properly engaged at any point, and that’s before we even get in to the attacks and chances he set up that were squandered. Go learn some football
Imagine if it was a random Swiss player, or any player not named Pogba really, that put in that performance. What would the analysis be like after?The back line for France were shocking yet Pogba was highlighted and picked apart, which was unnecessary. Can only assume because he’s high profile playing at United, I wonder how other counties analysed that French performance.
He was not cheaply dispossessed. He received the ball surrounded by three players and lost it before he even had a chance to turn. He didn’t just dwell on the ball for 15 seconds for the feck of it. You are aware the other team wants the ball too I hope.Obviously he was partly at fault for a goal where he was cheaply dispossessed. The defence were terrible after that but that doesn't mean his poor play wasn't a factor. And it's not like that's the first time we've seen him be cheaply dispossessed like that either, it's a rather characteristic error.
But that was massively outweighed by all the things he did right today.
He often loses it for us far deeper than that. Maybe being overly critical as it was good pressure robbing him after his firts touch, but the sloppyness and naivety of some of his play for such a talented player at his age and with so much experience consistently is why he isnt world class. But this "player of the tournament...has been fantastic"....for France he seems to do more magical things and less sloppy ones than he has in his time for us....but they have still been there in every game at times. Obviously the full backs and play of France in general let France down so not directly blaming Pogba, but even with Kante alongside him, France the whole tournament didnt look super solid in midfield, every side got at them through the middle, he cant play in the pivot defensively.....if Pogba was a club he would be Keegans Newcastle as going forward and backwards....chalk n cheese and so often naive
Fergie blamed Nani for losing against Chelsea because he gave it away near Chelsea's corner flag.
I don't agree with Pogba being blamed but that sort of thing happens all the time.
When someone calls Rabiot world class, it's indeed a confirmation they know feck all about what they're talking aboutSo nothing else happened during that match other than a lost ball in midfield? No, you’re blaming him because you want to, and you either don’t understand or are ignoring every other circumstance. Also, Rabiot world class He was as much to blame for Switzerland’s second goal according to your standards, and of course you’ve yet to acknowledge all the chances squandered that he created. Get a clue or try to be objective.