Yeh, let me just get him on the phone.
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Yeh, let me just get him on the phone.
Can Kante create or score goals? Then what’s the point of being a midfielder?
People who criticize Pogba for not being defensive should use the same logic while comparing kante’s Offensive provess!
It makes you wonder about why he wanted to play in advance position for United.
I'm not criticizing Pogba though, someone can think that one player is brilliant and that an other one is better.
Yeah, agreed. It was quite an obvious transfer at the time as well - fee was really low, Kante had excelled at Leicester and we were weak in the defensive midfield area. Given we were in the process of targeting Pogba for a world record fee, it also makes sense given they were going to be teammates for the national side.
With context from the previous posts prior to mine, it makes sense because some posters believe Kante has been the best central midfielder in the tournament. Overall, the pairing of Pogba and Kante is the best in the world as evident by this tournament. Pogba's performances this tournament have been consistent 7s at minimum and he's been at the heart of many of the goals and good buildup for his team.
Pogba understands his role in this French squad to a T and trusts and knows what exactly his teammates are doing to support their effort. United need to continue to get quality players and gain consistency within the squad.
Pogba is the least of United's problems.
Kanté didn't have that current untouchable status for the national at the time we could have bought him
Yes he can, but more importantly he does his job getting the ball to more dangerous attacking players while winning the ball 6 times like today
Likewise. My group texts I’m the United fan and they are calling him to be dropped, biggest flop at the cup, pub player etc
They are hating Frances deep run into the cup.
It's mutual benefit. Pogba benefit from Mbappe who always available and reliable to give the pass to.
We were in for Kante, but he already chose Chelsea.
Kante is not the sole reason Pogba is performing more consistent. Prior to this WC, they didn't always work well together. Pogba problem is more about himself than anything. He did look like he tried to take a piss in some lower profile games with us and backfire. Here at the WC he is more focused and determined to fulfil his required role which the key difference.
I would say Pogba has room for improvement (attacking wise), yet it's the case don'tfix what's not problem for the time being, and having Pogba doing a more restricted role. So it's not all rosy partnership. It's just best for the team and shouldn't be complained about
Oh yeah, completely agree - Kanté as a world class player came out of nowhere at Leicester and he only made his debut the year he was transferred to Chelsea.
But it was clear at that point he was a world class midfielder and would become a staple of the French national team for years.
Do you think Deschamps doesn't give him defensive dutiesRhetorical question btw.
I only watch Sweden’s games this competition. So I’ll probably see how Deschamps use him in the final.
But it doesn’t matter. You kids just trust me and you'll be just fine.
Jose tried to get Kante but he had already got everything sorted with Chelsea. We were close to a Kante Pogba partnership, would have been unreal.
Considering what you said made little no, I will politely say "no"
If France go on to win, does he have an outside shout for player of the tournament? Or has there been another player on the team who has clearly our performed him? Mbappe possibly?
Mbappe has had 1 good game. I would say Kante and Pogba have been the best for France.
Golden Ball potential thus far from Pogba. Two more strong performances and a France World Cup victory and I think he’ll get it (providing Mbappe doesn’t go mental and score a few more).
I'd say Kante has been their most consistent and high level. Depends on who has big performances in the semis and final though. Could easily be griezmann if they win despite underwhelming before today.
Fair enough. I imagine performances in the final will have a bit influence in deciding the eventual winner.
Edit: @bosnian_red beat me to it.
There is no way he gets it ahead of Griezmann. Trophyless season in a very boring Man United team kills all his chances. Griezmann won the EL and played in the final
Think it's for world cup best player.
It's not always the case. Messi won it last tournament when he's no where near the best in the KO stage let alone semi and final.
FIFA best player at WC is kinda a popular contest. Mbappe and Griezmann are more likely to get the award even performance while Pogba may edge them
Oh ok. He has his chances for sure
The Golden Ball takes into account World Cup performances only. The Ballon D’Or (also ‘golden ball’) is what you are, quite correctly, referencing (and no, Pogba hasn’t a hope of winning that this year).
But does he? in the same sense Pogba can do the defensive work while putting a sublime cross for any attacker to tap in. You can't have specifics for one player and not use it for the other!
True, but i was just saying comparing two different types of players to argue one being better that the other is not right.
Against Uruguay, Pogba was great while Kante was immense. That's no insult to Pogba. They complement each other so well right now.
I misunderstood you. You are right, his defo has his chances
Not a fan of Deschamps but he seems to be getting into Pogba's head what Mourinho couldn't ie defensive diligence and when to keep it simple. Obviously it helps that he has Kante to do donkey work and Mbappe/Griezman to feed.
I responded to a post that stated that Pogba was arguably the best midfielder of the World Cup and I responded that for me it was Kanté.
Yes he does. Not every game, but Kante has shown the ability to break with his team and make passes to help setup chances
It's cause he's thrived there for Juventus, and he's got more than enough in his locker to do it. He's just a weird player, has got so much in his locker that I guess it's always going to be impossible to make use of every one of his skill-set simultaneously.
I've seen United win every trophy there is to win. We dominated England when I was growing up to the point where I took titles for granted. I will almost certainly see United win the CL again. I never expected to see England win anything in my lifetime. It's a no brainer for me.Just no no no no no no no no no no no no no. No. Nope.
Well, you have every right to that viewpoint, but I'll never, ever understand it. I want United to win everything and never stop. I'm English born and raised, and of course I'd be ecstatic if England won the World Cup, but I'd take another United Premier League title over that, let alone a Champions League title. I might be talked into sacrificing an FA Cup win for an England World Cup, though. And I'm not even sure about that, lol.
Played very well and has a big role in the second goal. He has been doing a proper CM performance for France the whole tournament for now.
On his Instagram story it pans round to show a crowd waiting for him, and there's what looks like a soldier with a patch his back that says HOMO
Pogba wants to be a superstar off the pitch but not in the pitch.
I already had my doubts at Euro 2016 and his 2 seasons here have shown he didn't have the mentality/position on the pitch of a superstar.
This world cup is definitely showing that Pogba is a more a water carrier than a superstar.
I can't wait to see Adidas' reaction to this "new" Pogba. It's not a good thing for them because slowly, Pogba is killing the hype that he built in Italy.
But for Mourinho and Deschamps, it's definetly a great thing. They never saw him as a guy good enough to build the team around and now, Pogba seems to have the same opinion
I already had my doubts at Euro 2016 and his 2 seasons here have shown he didn't have the mentality/position on the pitch of a superstar.
This world cup is definitely showing that Pogba is a more a water carrier than a superstar.
I can't wait to see Adidas' reaction to this "new" Pogba. It's not a good thing for them because slowly, Pogba is killing the hype that he built in Italy.
But for Mourinho and Deschamps, it's definetly a great thing. They never saw him as a guy good enough to build the team around and now, Pogba seems to have the same opinion
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