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That’s like poverty wages for a footballer. Good job!25M
30k a week
That’s impressive to be fair
Good luck to him. Hope he hits it off quickly
That’s like poverty wages for a footballer. Good job!25M
30k a week
That’s impressive to be fair
Good luck to him. Hope he hits it off quickly
Wasn't Amad also a teenager who'd only played one game of senior football when we signed him? We basically signed him off of scout recommendations, especially after he came to Manchester and tore City apart in a youth CL game for Atalanta.I mean we are signing him to come straight into the first team aren’t we? Just that we signed Amad for big money and he never came to start straight away, he went in the youth set up and then on a few loans.
fecking breadlineThat’s like poverty wages for a footballer. Good job!
Amad wasn't bought to be a first team player, it took him several years to get there, it appears that Dorgu is expected to be first choice LWB in a dysfunctional team in a new country and a wholly different kind of league in regards to pace and physicality, I can't help feeling he's being set up to fail, hope I'm wrong thoughWasn't Amad also a teenager who'd only played one game of senior football when we signed him? We basically signed him off of scout recommendations, especially after he came to Manchester and tore City apart in a youth CL game for Atalanta.
Dorgu is way more experienced, over 50 Serie A games under his belt, and also a few caps for Denmark.
idk for me a wingback should be a good position to integrate such a player. You stay wide, defend crosses, and get forward to put in crosses of your own. Sounds simple enough, even though i know easier said than done. Going like CB where there is no cover at times, or anything really in the central where you can get swarmed would prob be a harder ask for a new league playerAmad wasn't bought to be a first team player, it took him several years to get there, it appears that Dorgu is expected to be first choice LWB in a dysfunctional team in a new country and a wholly different kind of league in regards to pace and physicality, I can't help feeling he's being set up to fail, hope I'm wrong though
The problem is that if we introduced that Patrick to this current United we all know how things would end up.If he is half as good as the last Patrick we had at LB, he'll be a star.
Crerand more played on the rightIf he is half as good as the last Patrick we had at LB, he'll be a star.
Haha is it really that confusing? I meant that I watched a few clips of him, not a lot mind you, and my initial reaction was that he looked to be a bit short. He looked small and robust.What does that even mean.
My point is / was that you asked the question "why is an opinion based on 'all-touches' video on YouTube not valid" and my response used a tool in Philosophy called "reducing an argument to absurdity"Unsure what this point is. I agree we've revamped our scouting but I don't think it's unreasonable to have reservations on price paid vs established quantity based in some online videos. Impressions change, it's not set in stone.
Yeah I didn't insinuate this. So let's move on.My point is / was that you asked the question "why is an opinion based on 'all-touches' video on YouTube not valid" and my response used a tool in Philosophy called "reducing an argument to absurdity"
If you can just watch a few clips on YouTube and immediately know more than a whole team of professional scouts and analysts, why can't you apply the same principle for repairing an F1 car, or performing surgery or building a rocket?
Anyway...let's just see how the lad gets on!
Yes. We’d have 1 good player at the back for us.The problem is that if we introduced that Patrick to this current United we all know how things would end up.
Yeah I didn't insinuate this. So let's move on.
I would now like to see an attacker if Garna leaves. But staying as is would be fine too.
Caliafori was a known quantity and established at the Euros though?
Don't get me wrong I think Caliafori is yet to reach that price tag too. Though the euros hype probably inflated his worth in the market.And they paid a lot more for him. One decent Euros and one decent season in Serie A, this doesn’t make him established as a player in my opinion.
30k is incredible for the club. Hope he doesn’t feel bitter when he’s sprinting back to defend and sees Rashford sitting in the box, with his grillz and bucket hat, earning 10x that while doing f all!
30k is incredible for the club. Hope he doesn’t feel bitter when he’s sprinting back to defend and sees Rashford sitting in the box, with his grillz and bucket hat, earning 10x that while doing f all!
In what way? Price wise or the type of player?I agree 100% Dorgu is the exact kind of profile of player I want to see us sign.
Liverpool signed the likes of Gini (can't spell his surname) and Robertson from struggling and relegated clubs. It turnt out well for them, because they knew exactly what the manager needed to succeed.
I hope we can follow the same path.
I'm really not too bothered about whether we end up light in certain positions if it means shifting the high earners / deadwood.Yeah I didn't insinuate this. So let's move on.
I would now like to see an attacker if Garna leaves. But staying as is would be fine too.
I think Dorgu's arrival will reduce the need for Garnacho to play as a No. 10. Dalot, being right-footed, naturally cuts inside or inverts, which has allowed Garnacho to drift wide and operate more like a traditional left winger. However, with Dorgu now potentially occupying those spaces when he comes in, Amorim will likely want a true No. 10 who can thrive in the half-spaces.
This is why I believe our interest in Nkunku is genuine, as he fits that role far better than Garnacho, who relies on space to be at his most effective.
As long as he is athletic, strong and pacy, I think he will do well and LWB or RWB. Looking forward for his integration into the XI. With another 17 yo athletic pacy wb coming in June, we well stock with good player. We need a ST, AM and CM in the summer in order to compete for top 4.
That’s what everyone thought a few years back about our attacking lineup when we had Martial, Rashford and Greenwood.His signing means we’re set for the next 10 years at LWB with him and Diego Leon.
We still need one more experienced WB I feel which I think we will go for in summer.
Plus, neither Dorgu nor Leon have even kicked a ball in anger for us yet. I hope not but what if they're both shite for example?That’s what everyone thought a few years back about our attacking lineup when we had Martial, Rashford and Greenwood.
We finally learn as a club not to tank value on unproven PL recruits upfront.That’s like poverty wages for a footballer. Good job!
Ye but one was a lazy player and the other 2 had problems.That’s what everyone thought a few years back about our attacking lineup when we had Martial, Rashford and Greenwood.
25M
30k a week
That’s impressive to be fair
Good luck to him. Hope he hits it off quickly
Agree, people too focused on the headline fee, when a transfer is fee + wages. His relatively low wages make this a pretty good deal.
That’s like poverty wages for a footballer. Good job!
fecking breadline
We finally learn as a club not to tank value on unproven PL recruits upfront.
Thats what we thought when we signed Blind, Darmian, Malacia. For all we know Diego Leon might turn into Diego Loaned at some point.His signing means we’re set for the next 10 years at LWB with him and Diego Leon.
Did they I don't remember that way they were are all low level Punts who were seen as squad level talents at best.Thats what we thought when we signed Blind, Darmian, Malacia. For all we know Diego Leon might turn into Diego Loaned at some point.
And still this is the level people who watched Dorgu here and there (not me) place him atNo body thought that they were are all low level Punts who were seen as squad level talents at best.
How is this lowballing? They asked for 40 and we got them to 35, which is almost double their club’s transfer record. 35 for a guy with 50 odd games.Seems we low balled them, and it worked?
So this is what it's like to have a competent recruitment team, nice.
That's fair enough won't argue against it but unlike those players these are youngsters who have plenty of scope for development as well and look part physically atleast .And still this is the level people who watched Dorgu here and there (not me) place him at
Never heard that with blind and Darmian and wasn’t he an RB anyway?Thats what we thought when we signed Blind, Darmian, Malacia. For all we know Diego Leon might turn into Diego Loaned at some point.