Patrick Dorgu | 2024/25 Performances

Red00012 said:
He has zero intensity to his game is one of the biggest faults in him.
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He reminds me a lot of Hojlund in that sense. Built like a brick shit house but cant win duels, gets shoved off the ball easily, terrible general touch and control.

Whatever data analytics we're using to evaluate Hojlund, Zirkzee, Dorgu and co needs binned. Along with all of our Serie A scouts.
 
stepic said:
Let’s check back in in a year when he has an actual striker to pass to. Could have had about 4 assists in the last month if we had someone to finish his passes.
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He actually makes some good crosses right? I see them once or twice a game and I can see some potential there.

People saying Malacia was better is rubbish, Dorgu has done more than Malacia already in 10 games because Malacia would only dribble a bit then pass the ball backwards.
 
Quagmaguire said:
He actually makes some good crosses right? I see them once or twice a game and I can see some potential there.

People saying Malacia was better is rubbish, Dorgu has done more than Malacia already in 10 games because Malacia would only dribble a bit then pass the ball backwards.
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I think it's probably because people don't consider/remember those crosses as they didn't amount to a goal. But with a semi competent CF he'd have at least 1 assist by now. A lot of our issues stems from our lack of quality up the pitch.
 
Again, what's really ringing the alarm bells is his defending ability. Zero awareness, I've rarely seen him stamping down his authority on that left flank and killing off attacks before they develop, he's always stuck in a reactive phase. I never thought he would be so poor at defending, it looks like we stuck a specialist winger in his position and not a wingback there, that's what it feels like. He also needs to work on his shooting, and learn how step into duels and win the ball cleanly. We've clearly bought a very raw and inexperienced player, he has alot to learn.
 
Is he better than Harry Amos? It’s early but I see nothing in this guy which makes him stand out.
 
Normally with young players you can see some traits that you can see what they can become, this guy so far is just an ok footballer there isn't a thing his game that he has shown so far that you could hang your hat on that he'll excel at
 
I actually don't think there's that much wrong with his attacking game. When we get him in the right position and pass him the ball, he rarely loses it and has put in plenty of decent crosses which a proper CF would be eating up.

His defending is a real concern though. So many Lyon attacks were starting with a player either strolling past him into space or easily passing round him because of poor positioning/bad pressing.
 
As usual, not as bad as some are making out, but also doesn't look anything special either.

Probably could have got better for 30 million if we'd held off, but it's better than having Dalot or Maz at left wing back.
 
Wolfbot said:
As usual, not as bad as some are making out, but also doesn't look anything special either.

Probably could have got better for 30 million if we'd held off, but it's better than having Dalot or Maz at left wing back.
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3 of the 4 goals came down Dalot's side. But he apparently had a good game and just needs some rest. Dorgu was poor, but he wasn't as bad as some would like to make out.
 
I think his longterm role here will be as a backup /squad player who'll have 1 or 2 breakout campaigns.
 
Brightonian said:
I actually don't think there's that much wrong with his attacking game. When we get him in the right position and pass him the ball, he rarely loses it and has put in plenty of decent crosses which a proper CF would be eating up.

His defending is a real concern though. So many Lyon attacks were starting with a player either strolling past him into space or easily passing round him because of poor positioning/bad pressing.
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Agree with this. I think it's something that can be improved quite easily though.
 
Not impressed. We needed a Kerkez or Ait-Nouri type talent and Dorgu is not it. So far looks like another poor purchase.
 
Quagmaguire said:
He actually makes some good crosses right? I see them once or twice a game and I can see some potential there.

People saying Malacia was better is rubbish, Dorgu has done more than Malacia already in 10 games because Malacia would only dribble a bit then pass the ball backwards.
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Yeah that never happened.
 
When he plays with an actual inside forward he looks far more dangerous with his overlapping runs. He’s brilliant physically, constantly offering an outlet and he’s a good crosser. He doesn’t suit playing with Garnacho at all. His defending needs work obviously - but he’s 20.
 
Mickeza said:
When he plays with an actual inside forward he looks far more dangerous with his overlapping runs. He’s brilliant physically, constantly offering an outlet and he’s a good crosser. He doesn’t suit playing with Garnacho at all. His defending needs work obviously - but he’s 20.
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That's how I see it too, as we get more players that suit the system and as Dorgu develops he will be more appreciated
 
He was always going to be very raw, if you listened to any decent/knowledgeable podcast before his arrival.

In an ideal world he would be a project/prospect with managed minutes, but once again we are relying on very young players to step into the first team immediately because of our poor squad. These first six months mean absolutely nothing, especially in this turbulent season, I'm just glad we have another body to play at LWB. Get him settled, have a good pre-season and most importantly give him a couple of years to work on his deficiencies (defending, passing, etc.).
 
VP89 said:
Yeah that never happened.
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Malacia is one of the most irritating and defensive fullbacks I've ever seen.

He did absolutely nothing with the ball.

He has not a single goal or assist at his time here.
 
Just watching the highlights and he's really bad for their first two goals. Gets brushed aside easily for the first and fails to deal with the cross on the second.

I like how he gets forward, but I fear we will concede many goals with him and Dalot on the wingbacks next season.
 
It was up and down with Dorgu yesterday, and look whats being posted in here. It was up and down with Yoro yesterday as well, but try to compare the posts in both threads. One is getting roasted while the other one can almost walk on water. Casemiro had a great game yesterday, but the posting and ratings is all over the place in the media. Rasmus was actually really good yesterday, but once again criminally under-serviced. He makes a brilliant run, creating space for Ugarte for the first goal and creates chances for Garnacho and Bruno and links up well. The result: He is getting roasted again. Garnacho made a great assist and a good run before his big chance that almost lost us the game. Other than that his decision-making was beyond terrible. Onana get heaps of praise despite repeating the same stupid mistakes again and again. He has really good reflexes, but he is still palming every shot stop straight into the danger zone. It did not cost us yesterday, but it was still not good keeping. Back to Dorgu. He was defensively shaky at times and his shooting was all over the place. Still he manages really good crosses and creates so much space with his runs. I gave him a 6.
 
Salwan said:
He was always going to be very raw, if you listened to any decent/knowledgeable podcast before his arrival.

In an ideal world he would be a project/prospect with managed minutes, but once again we are relying on very young players to step into the first team immediately because of our poor squad. These first six months mean absolutely nothing, especially in this turbulent season, I'm just glad we have another body to play at LWB. Get him settled, have a good pre-season and most importantly give him a couple of years to work on his deficiencies (defending, passing, etc.).
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Yeah, sounds right to me. He's raw, but I think there is great potential to build on. Malacia had no such potential.
 
Raw and young he may be, but I just don’t seen any standout attributes at all with this lad. Maybe his composure in the final 3rd? He’s quite good at picking a cross rather than just hitting and hoping. But beyond that, he’s so average (and that’s probably being kind) in every aspect of the game. He’s not even that athletic, which was supposed to be one of his big positives.

I just can’t help feel that we’ve signed yet another technically average player with a very limited ceiling. If he’s our starting left wing back next season then we’re gonna continue to struggle. He should be a backup squad player at most right now.
 
He was very poor for the 2nd goal but I'm not giving up hope on him just yet.
He's definitely still a prospect, one who's learning the position at that. He'll be better next season.
 
Quagmaguire said:
Malacia is one of the most irritating and defensive fullbacks I've ever seen.

He did absolutely nothing with the ball.

He has not a single goal or assist at his time here.
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He was second fiddle to shaw and brought in as a squad player. This made up rhetoric that he never crossed is just an exaggeration to he fair. As is a notion that Dorgu is some major improvement.
 
I’m worried with this one, he’s not very good defensively at all, going forwards I can see he has some quality that we can work with. I guess like with most of our younger players we need our senior players to step up and lead them through games.

We have a good looking young group, Dorgu, Yoro, Mainoo, Amad, Garnacho, Hojlund. That’s potentially half a team but they are all still very raw with big improvement needed. Our biggest issue is the squad is so unbalanced where our senior players are either too old and don’t really provide anything apart from one of good games every now and then or they have been here too long and shown they aren’t really good enough any way.
 
VP89 said:
He was second fiddle to shaw and brought in as a squad player. This made up rhetoric that he never crossed is just an exaggeration to he fair. As is a notion that Dorgu is some major improvement.
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I don't think Dorgu's overall play is better. Malacia is better defensively, purely on his intensity alone. However in this system, going forward, Dorgu is without a shadow of doubt better, as Malacia is more of an inverted fullback, he rarely overlapped or provided cutbacks, two things Dorgu naturally does.
 
FrankWhite said:
I don't think Dorgu's overall play is better. Malacia is better defensively, purely on his intensity alone. However in this system, going forward, Dorgu is without a shadow of doubt better, as Malacia is more of an inverted fullback, he rarely overlapped or provided cutbacks, two things Dorgu naturally does.
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Right I agree with that. Just not nonsense like Malacia never crossed the ball.

Both players are just squad fodder quality, at least right now. I'd be concerned if there's no plans to recruit at both LWB and RWB.
 
He will become a massive player for us. When we win the league in 27/28 everyone will be saying how he is the golden standard for LWBs. And yes I am serious.
 
userman said:
He will become a massive player for us. When we win the league in 27/28 everyone will be saying how he is the golden standard for LWBs. And yes I am serious.
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I'd reserve judgement for at least a year.
He's only 20 and it's a big jump in standards.
 
We've definitely asked too much of Dorgu since his first day on the job but until bodies come back from the physio room we have to keep playing him.
 
Red00012 said:
Amorim said we will see Amad in May , and we are playing the 1st leg in May !
Send Dalot over to the left with Amad on the right
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Dalot is terrible on the left though. Dorgu isn’t great but I do think he’s our best option there currently. I don’t see a player worth what we paid for him yet but just have to cross our fingers and hope he develops.
 
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