Patrice Evra | 2012/13 Performances

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I think reason for him scoring and being involved in a few goals is clear, the delivery of RVP is just stunning.
 
Before the 2nd today, I shouted "go on Paddy" before RvP crossed it. He just looked so determined to make a nuisance of himself on the box. Despite the fact he has a couple goals from headers this season already, I think he was being marked by Sterling too? Absurd from Liverpool if that was the case.
 
After revealing that Patrice Evra is not happy the second goal is likely to be credited to Nemanja Vidic, Sir Alex admitted he was disappointed to concede so soon afterwards, although he was impressed by the defending that followed.

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He's added goals and assists to his game which is brilliant to see. Hope he keeps it up. Attacking wise, he's the best left back around currently.

I used to always curse his crossing ability, but it does seem to have become more dangerous.

He used to be all dribbling and not much else. I often expected moves to break up with him. That's not being harsh, he was still one of the best full-backs around, just lacked the killer balls of someone like Baines.

He's making me forget all that this season though.
 
Can't believe that he wasn't given the goal today, even though it did glance off Vidic.
At least one of the replay angles made me wonder if Evra's header was even on target (while I couldn't even see Vidic touching it in others). Has anyone analysed it with sexy 3D CGI?
 
Fair question...had he been this productive around about 2009, would he have been performing at a level comparable to some of the very best full backs to have played the game? I mean, he was genuinely incredible at that point defensively and in the build up, and that was the only part of his game that wasn't top notch.
 
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It must feel alright to have been a far, far bigger attacking threat (well, at least a far, far more productive attacking threat) than that despicable racist twat. Nice one!
 
I used to always curse his crossing ability, but it does seem to have become more dangerous.

He used to be all dribbling and not much else. I often expected moves to break up with him. That's not being harsh, he was still one of the best full-backs around, just lacked the killer balls of someone like Baines.

He's making me forget all that this season though.

Yup, he always could bring the ball forwards with his dribbling and link up play with the winger, but when he got to the byline you'd always think well this cross will go to no one. Now, though, he's really improved on that and looks like a more complete fullback attacking wise.
 
Fair question...had he been this productive around about 2009, would he have been performing at a level comparable to some of the very best full backs to have played the game? I mean, he was genuinely incredible at that point defensively and in the build up, and that was the only part of his game that wasn't top notch.

Easily. He was ridiculously good at that time, dominating the entire left part of the pitch on his own. It was just his end product that was lacking.
 
Good header for the goal, even if it will likely end up going down as Vidics. Become a real threat from set pieces this season it seems.
 
He really has stepped up his level this season. I've been critical of him in recent times because he's genuinely been really disappointing defensively, but he's shown steady improvement this season and now is on a very good run of performances at both ends of the pitch. Really hope he keeps it up. At his best, he's better than any other fullback playing right now.
 
Whilst the goals are a welcome addition to his game, I also felt there were still defensive lapses in his game on show yesterday. Slow tracking back and lacks urgency I think.

Overall still a big improvement on previous seasons though, but I think defensively he is really mediocre at the moment, especially when you consider all the flak Rafael gets for supposed defensive weaknesses.
 
Whilst the goals are a welcome addition to his game, I also felt there were still defensive lapses in his game on show yesterday. Slow tracking back and lacks urgency I think.

Yeah. If you watch him immediately after his square pass was intercepted on the edge of the box in the second half, he just stands watching while three other United players race towards the Liverpool player. Bewildering.
 
I stumbled across this article comparing Evra, Baines and Cole. At a time when people are still accusing Evra of being lazy and a liability I found it quite interesting the vast difference in defensive contributions.

http://giggsboson.tumblr.com/post/40023686454/left-full-backs-in-england-europe-a-quick

That made for some interesting reading. Who would have known that Evra seems to be the best defender. He's been brilliant this season though! 4 goals and 4 assists. Not bad!
 
Whilst the goals are a welcome addition to his game, I also felt there were still defensive lapses in his game on show yesterday. Slow tracking back and lacks urgency I think.

Overall still a big improvement on previous seasons though, but I think defensively he is really mediocre at the moment, especially when you consider all the flak Rafael gets for supposed defensive weaknesses.

I don't think you can expect much more defensive duties from offensive fullbacks like Rafael and Evra. Both bust their lungs to get up and down the pitch for full 90 minutes. The alternative would be more defensive minded fullbacks, but we would certainly lose an attacking edge or two.
 
Yeah. If you watch him immediately after his square pass was intercepted on the edge of the box in the second half, he just stands watching while three other United players race towards the Liverpool player. Bewildering.

What a bizarre criticism. For starters, there was all of about 2 seconds between Evra giving the ball away, and Borini taking the shot. I'm not sure what you expect him to do within that time frame... especially when he was wide on the left and Borini was in a central position. Regardless of that though, if you give the ball away, you can't just charge off and try and retrive it, especially if you're a defender... you have a position/man to mark, you can't just leave it and go ball hunting because you gave it away.

Unless of course you're talking about a different scenario, but I can't think of what that would be? In fact, apart from that pass, Evra didn't put a foot wrong defensively yesterday.
 
Easily. He was ridiculously good at that time, dominating the entire left part of the pitch on his own. It was just his end product that was lacking.

Agreed. The only reason I pose it as a question I think is because I haven't seen all the great full backs (think I said previously that he definitely would've been, but then revised that view when considering that I wasn't really in a position to say). I struggle to believe anyone was a lot better than Evra was during that period, never mind an Evra with better productivity.

I've made as much of an effort as possible to catch up with what I haven't seen of Denis Irwin for example, and as good as he looked I cannot say he looked better than Evra in 2009. Strikes me that Irwin was consistently a 7 or 8 out of 10 performer, but Evra in that calender year really was performing consistently at 8 or 9. It was incredible.
 
Agreed. The only reason I pose it as a question I think is because I haven't seen all the great full backs (think I said previously that he definitely would've been, but then revised that view when considering that I wasn't really in a position to say). I struggle to believe anyone was a lot better than Evra was during that period, never mind an Evra with better productivity.

I've made as much of an effort as possible to catch up with what I haven't seen of Denis Irwin for example, and as good as he looked I cannot say he looked better than Evra in 2009. Strikes me that Irwin was consistently a 7 or 8 out of 10 performer, but Evra in that calender year really was performing consistently at 8 or 9. It was incredible.

Calendar year 2008 he was incredible too. Fuark. There was a reason why we called him Jesus after all.
 
Just been absolutely top class since that 06/07 season, really. :D It was random seeing the difference between the first half of 09/10 and the second half, but not unexpected given how much we played him. So happy for him that he's back on his game. Watching his interview yesterday, you realise what a class act he really is and how much of a positive influence he must be in the dressing room.
 
I like to criticise him alot for his defensive play, but still, there isn't better fullback in the world who plays better under pressure, and creates good attack from nothing, only marcelo can be compared to him in that section:

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I argued with everyone last season Amar that his ability as a footballer was as good as ever and imo, way too important in our team to leave out. He wasn't anywhere near as bad last season as some made out, he had a few dodgy games and some poor moments but people just got a bee in their bonnet about him and tried to find ways to blame him for every single goal.

One of our most important players, no doubt. Glad he has gone up to another level this season.
 
Fair question...had he been this productive around about 2009, would he have been performing at a level comparable to some of the very best full backs to have played the game? I mean, he was genuinely incredible at that point defensively and in the build up, and that was the only part of his game that wasn't top notch.

Even without the productivity I think he was up there with the very best.
 
I argued with everyone last season Amar that his ability as a footballer was as good as ever and imo, way too important in our team to leave out. He wasn't anywhere near as bad last season as some made out, he had a few dodgy games and some poor moments but people just got a bee in their bonnet about him and tried to find ways to blame him for every single goal.

One of our most important players, no doubt. Glad he has gone up to another level this season.

I never doubted his abilities as a footballer, he is excellent with the ball, his fitness is excellent, he hasn't lost any pace(maybe little, but it's almost impossible to note the difference), but I have problems with his defensive play, because I think he can do much better at times.
 
I'm a bit reluctant to praise any of our defenders, given the almost unprecedented amount of goals we're conceding this season with no obvious cause, but he's certainly looked a lot better this season than he did in the last two. I always felt the World Cup debacle, subsequent punishment and the Suarez controversy were somewhat to blame for his poor form in the last two years, it's glad to see him back at something approaching his best.
 
I like to criticise him alot for his defensive play, but still, there isn't better fullback in the world who plays better under pressure, and creates good attack from nothing, only marcelo can be compared to him in that section:

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Some great stuff there.This season he has improved all aspects of his game in comparison to last one, he's better at crossing the ball whether in the air or on the ground.
 
Well apparently he did it again this weekend :eek:

It's boss, but slightly disconcertingly boss.

He's a mad fecker, but he has everything you'd want in a United player. I'll openly admit that I thought that he was on the major decline after last season. How wrong was I?
 
I never doubted his abilities as a footballer, he is excellent with the ball, his fitness is excellent, he hasn't lost any pace(maybe little, but it's almost impossible to note the difference), but I have problems with his defensive play, because I think he can do much better at times.

Last year he had lost a lot of pace; some of his runs, particularly where he was destroyed for pace against Lennon, showed that. That was explained by Ferguson as he played with injuries.

This season we are witnessing a fit and injury free Evra, and that is just about world class. I certainly wouldn't trade him for Baines. Evra has pace, technique, aerial ability and offensive contributions that beats that of most rivals.

This year I think he has done much better defensively also. I agree though, with I'm Always Right that he wasn't as bad last season as some would argue. He was unjustly made scape goat for most that happened, goals that were conceded after he conceded a free kick at the middle of the pitch etc. Not his fault that Evans decided to rugby tackle Rio Ferdinand who went for a header!
 
Last year he had lost a lot of pace; some of his runs, particularly where he was destroyed for pace against Lennon, showed that. That was explained by Ferguson as he played with injuries.

This season we are witnessing a fit and injury free Evra, and that is just about world class. I certainly wouldn't trade him for Baines. Evra has pace, technique, aerial ability and offensive contributions that beats that of most rivals.

This year I think he has done much better defensively also. I agree though, with I'm Always Right that he wasn't as bad last season as some would argue. He was unjustly made scape goat for most that happened, goals that were conceded after he conceded a free kick at the middle of the pitch etc. Not his fault that Evans decided to rugby tackle Rio Ferdinand who went for a header!

Yeah, I forgot to mention that last season it did look like he lost some pace, but this season he seems fresh again.
 
Still the best fullback in the world except Marcelo in terms of dribbling at and around players. And he runs the Brazilian pretty close.
 
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