Out of control dogs/dog attacks

I know it sounds horrible, but it should be a criminal offence to have one of these dogs of a certain size and strength walking without a lead in a public space

There's a clown that used to walk with his massive rottweiler without a lead next to my daughter's school when she was in reception as the kids were coming out. So irresponsible. I don't hear a lot of bad press with rotties, but they're powerful enough to cause serious damage if one were to suddenly flip.

With a lot of these cases, I don't think the dogs have been known to be overly aggressive in the past, but they can throw a tantrum (like any person) for whatever reason, and if that happens, they're just too powerful to keep in check. Not to the same extent, but it's very similar to these folk keeping large big cats. One lash out and it's all over.

If a medium or small sized dog throws a tantrum, the owner restrains them and they get a telling off. If these huge ones decide to do the same, it's usually fatal.
Rottweilers kill the second most amount of people in the US after pitbulls so you're right they can be dangerous too and definitely should not be off lead in public
 
Rottweilers kill the second most amount of people in the US after pitbulls so you're right they can be dangerous too and definitely should not be off lead in public
Oh wow ... Didn't know that!

I'm really surprised I've heard little about the giant livestock guardian breeds like Kangals, Alabai, and Caucasian shepherds in terms of attacks and fatalities.Those things are massive, strong and literally bred to successfully take on wolves and the like while being very protective of the herd.

Just looking at them in action, one feels they might even be more dangerous than the pitbull types. I've seen them kill wolves of those regions where they're from (a bit smaller than North American grey wolves) and there's a particular harrowing video of a kangal completely wrecking a striped hyena (a bit smaller than spotted hyenas and doesn't move in large clans)
 
I know it sounds horrible, but it should be a criminal offence to have one of these dogs of a certain size and strength walking without a lead in a public space

There's a clown that used to walk with his massive rottweiler without a lead next to my daughter's school when she was in reception as the kids were coming out. So irresponsible. I don't hear a lot of bad press with rotties, but they're powerful enough to cause serious damage if one were to suddenly flip.

With a lot of these cases, I don't think the dogs have been known to be overly aggressive in the past, but they can throw a tantrum (like any person) for whatever reason, and if that happens, they're just too powerful to keep in check. Not to the same extent, but it's very similar to these folk keeping large big cats. One lash out and it's all over.

If a medium or small sized dog throws a tantrum, the owner restrains them and they get a telling off. If these huge ones decide to do the same, it's usually fatal.
Sounds rational, not horrible.
 
Oh wow ... Didn't know that!

I'm really surprised I've heard little about the giant livestock guardian breeds like Kangals, Alabai, and Caucasian shepherds in terms of attacks and fatalities.Those things are massive, strong and literally bred to successfully take on wolves and the like while being very protective of the herd.

Just looking at them in action, one feels they might even be more dangerous than the pitbull types. I've seen them kill wolves of those regions where they're from (a bit smaller than North American grey wolves) and there's a particular harrowing video of a kangal completely wrecking a striped hyena (a bit smaller than spotted hyenas and doesn't move in large clans)
There probably just isn't a lot of them in built up areas
I've only seen a handful of Caucasian shepherd types in my life
Never seen a Kangal
The Caucasian shepherd I personally work with is a scary animal when it sees an "intruder"
I didn't see her for months and she didn't recognise me and went straight into attack mode
Luckily she remembered my voice or my scent and stopped before taking a bite :lol:
 
There probably just isn't a lot of them in built up areas
I've only seen a handful of Caucasian shepherd types in my life
Never seen a Kangal
The Caucasian shepherd I personally work with is a scary animal when it sees an "intruder"
I didn't see her for months and she didn't recognise me and went straight into attack mode
Luckily she remembered my voice or my scent and stopped before taking a bite :lol:
A Caucasian Shepherd coming at you at full pelt :wenger::wenger::wenger:
Now that's a reality I'll never want to experience!
 
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So people around my town have started to put yellow handkerchiefs around their dogs necks to signal that they are special needs dogs and need extra space and time. Maybe not take your fecking pet into the busy public parks or streets if it's a fecking special needs dog!? The cheek of these owners. They then tell you how their dog is better than any human because they think all humans are like themselves.
 
So people around my town have started to put yellow handkerchiefs around their dogs necks to signal that they are special needs dogs and need extra space and time. Maybe not take your fecking pet into the busy public parks or streets if it's a fecking special needs dog!? The cheek of this owners. They then tell you how their dog is better than any human because they think all humans are as selfish as themselves.
It can depend on the dog tbf. Our beagle used to be very nervous around people but adored other dogs, so we had the yellow nervous sign on the lead to discourage people but obviously dogs can't read so he got the best of both worlds. He's much better with people now though so we don't use it anymore.
 
It can depend on the dog tbf. Our beagle used to be very nervous around people but adored other dogs, so we had the yellow nervous sign on the lead to discourage people but obviously dogs can't read so he got the best of both worlds. He's much better with people now though so we don't use it anymore.
Yeah but did you take your nervous around people dog on the tube or to the market square or the busiest parks on a Sunday?
 
Yeah but did you take your nervous around people dog on the tube or to the market square or the busiest parks on a Sunday?
I did not, he'd have scrambled out of his harness and got himself run over :lol:
 
I don't really see that as a problem, it's good that people are starting to use these systems rather than not. Personally I find people letting their dogs off the lead in parks and having them bound about irritating as feck. They'd be the first people to complain if their dog got attacked too, twats.
 
I don't really see that as a problem, it's good that people are starting to use these systems rather than not. Personally I find people letting their dogs off the lead in parks and having them bound about irritating as feck. They'd be the first people to complain if their dog got attacked too, twats.
Yeah if you can't control your dog off lead then it shouldn't come off. We let ours run free in a small field near our house and others often do the same, and all the dogs run around together. Sometimes if it's just us though and we see a dog come through on a lead we put ours straight back on because we know he'll ignore us and sprint over and just be annoying wanting to play.
 
So people around my town have started to put yellow handkerchiefs around their dogs necks to signal that they are special needs dogs and need extra space and time. Maybe not take your fecking pet into the busy public parks or streets if it's a fecking special needs dog!? The cheek of these owners. They then tell you how their dog is better than any human because they think all humans are like themselves.
Had to look that up. When did this become a thing?
 
Had to look that up. When did this become a thing?
Some time recently it seems.

I don't mind if it's in a place where there is space to stay clear etc. Those doing it in busy public places are kinda taking the piss though.
 
So people around my town have started to put yellow handkerchiefs around their dogs necks to signal that they are special needs dogs and need extra space and time. Maybe not take your fecking pet into the busy public parks or streets if it's a fecking special needs dog!? The cheek of these owners. They then tell you how their dog is better than any human because they think all humans are like themselves.

Out of interest. Does the dog have special needs or is it an assistance dog for someone with special needs?
 
Some time recently it seems.

I don't mind if it's in a place where there is space to stay clear etc. Those doing it in busy public places are kinda taking the piss though.
Some dogs with serious anxiety cannot be left alone for too long. Maybe you should stay home. Will he take the bait?
 
Out of interest. Does the dog have special needs or is it an assistance dog for someone with special needs?
It's the dog. Service dogs are usually trained to impeccable standards.
Some dogs with serious anxiety cannot be left alone for too long. Maybe you should stay home. Will he take the bait?
I'm way too busy getting curry to stay at home. You deliver?
 
Yeah if you can't control your dog off lead then it shouldn't come off. We let ours run free in a small field near our house and others often do the same, and all the dogs run around together. Sometimes if it's just us though and we see a dog come through on a lead we put ours straight back on because we know he'll ignore us and sprint over and just be annoying wanting to play.

Sounds like annoying bullshit. For some reason my Instagram feed has been plagued with videos about “reactive” dogs, which all seem to be intent on removing any blame from the dog/owner if the dog mauls someone. “Sorry he ripped your child’s face off but you really shouldn’t allow your children near a reactive dog”
 
It's the dog. Service dogs are usually trained to impeccable standards.

I'm way too busy getting curry to stay at home. You deliver?

Aye, service dogs are great, met one once and the guy had it playing with his kids in a low part of a river. As soon as the dog had it's jacket off, he knew it was time to play. Once it went back on he was back in work mode.

Honestly have never heard of a dog with special needs before, never heard such bullshit to be honest. Same with anxiety, it's not the dog it's the owner that's the problem 90% of the time, because they feed off you and how you act.

I have 2, one I can let piss about and do what he wants always have, he has no interest in other dogs or people except when he meets a beagle and all he wants to do is play. The other is a highly trained pedigree dog, who I'll only really let off in certain areas, she can be a bit of cnut if other dogs get too close. She was never socialised properly as a pup and I only got her when she was over 2, still working on it.

I do leave both of mine with a dog minder who could have upwards of 10 dogs just running free around her house and garden. She always says once your gone the dogs settle down and sort themselves out regardless, she'll have everything from German Shepherds to those little white things roaming about and she's never had a problem with them.
 
Sounds like annoying bullshit. For some reason my Instagram feed has been plagued with videos about “reactive” dogs, which all seem to be intent on removing any blame from the dog/owner if the dog mauls someone. “Sorry he ripped your child’s face off but you really shouldn’t allow your children near a reactive dog”
Both parties should take equal responsibility. If you want people to control their dogs then you should also control your child.
 
Dogs should be on leads especially in public parks where there are kids facilities, the other day I saw a dog not on a leash suddenly run infornt of a kid on a bike who swerved and ended up falling off as a result.
 
Both parties should take equal responsibility. If you want people to control their dogs then you should also control your child.

Nah, I reckon the person who brings a dog out in public - without a muzzle - that will rip a child’s face off if that child gets too close should take the vast majority of the blame. Every dog owner is responsible for keeping other people safe around their dog. And it’s not reasonable to expect that every stranger they encounter knows how to behave around dogs
 
There is a special dog park near us with a gate to stop dogs getting out which is a great idea.

On a different note there used to be a woman in an apartment nearby who had a husky and 2 little white ‘things’. Don’t know what breed they were. She used to let them out unsupervised. The 2 white ones used to go for me if I was walking past their street, which I did regularly to catch the bus to work. Didn’t bother me too much as I’d launch it in the air if it bit me.

My wife though when she was pregnant and pushing the pram with our oldest, apparently they nipped her ankles and tried to get my son in the pram. Hes still not comfortable with dogs aged 12.

The owner tried to defend it saying that one of them had no teeth. I was pissed and said she’d find them hanging from a tree if I saw them unsupervised again. Saw her walking them on the lead a few times. Apparently one got hit by a car and died. A few neighbours complained about the behaviour of the husky as well. But that was a big dog being kept in a small apartment. Owner was completely to blame for all. She moved away.
 
Keeping huskies confined in small spaces is cruel, they are a high energy dog that require space and a lot of exercise.
 
Keeping huskies confined in small spaces is cruel, they are a high energy dog that require space and a lot of exercise.
They are also pretty. Which is all many of their owners care about.
 
Dogs should be banned entirely unless they are working dogs, wild ones or being bred for meat
 
Dogs should be banned entirely unless they are working dogs, wild ones or being bred for meat

So should humans who don't contribute to society tbh.

Dumb posts deserve dumb responses.. But this isn't even dumb it's just evil
 
Nah, I reckon the person who brings a dog out in public - without a muzzle - that will rip a child’s face off if that child gets too close should take the vast majority of the blame. Every dog owner is responsible for keeping other people safe around their dog. And it’s not reasonable to expect that every stranger they encounter knows how to behave around dogs

Absolutely though I also think it's every parents responsibility to teach their children how to act around and approach Dogs, especially Dogs they don't know.
 
Absolutely though I also think it's every parents responsibility to teach their children how to act around and approach Dogs, especially Dogs they don't know.
Agree, they should be taught to keep their distance no matter how friendly they look.
 
Just had an incident in my neighborhood. These fkwits have a English pit bull terrier. Every time you walk past their house this dog goes nuts. I get they are protective and a lot of dogs do this but he is excessive and you can hear the owner shouting at him but he pays no attention. The owner keeps saying things like 'Think about what you are doing?!' So obviously he has no fkn idea how to handle dogs let alone dangerous dogs.

But on top of this he gets his 8 year old daughter to walk this nutter dog that even he cant handle and guess what happens? So today while this young girl was walking him he attacks another dog. She cant handle him (Obviously) so he pulls and she drops the leash and attacks this other dog and the owner too as she is obviously trying get between them. What I never understand is why retards like this exist. You get one of the most damaging dogs on the planet. For what reason I have no idea. Then you dont train him and you dont know how to handle him. Then you get your 8 year old to walk him. Now the daughter is traumatized. The dog is probably being put down and the other dog and owner are fkd up. Why? Just because you want to have a dog that is hard and can fk things up? Just get a fkn poodle for fks sake.
 
Agree, they should be taught to keep their distance no matter how friendly they look.
Dogs can run faster than humans. The main responsibility is with the owners. All these X bully's should be put down, too dangerous even in the hands of owners who treat them well.
Why should the wider public be put under threat because someone wants to own a dog breed that history has shown are too volatile and can flip at any moment?
 
There is a special dog park near us with a gate to stop dogs getting out which is a great idea.

On a different note there used to be a woman in an apartment nearby who had a husky and 2 little white ‘things’. Don’t know what breed they were. She used to let them out unsupervised. The 2 white ones used to go for me if I was walking past their street, which I did regularly to catch the bus to work. Didn’t bother me too much as I’d launch it in the air if it bit me.

My wife though when she was pregnant and pushing the pram with our oldest, apparently they nipped her ankles and tried to get my son in the pram. Hes still not comfortable with dogs aged 12.

The owner tried to defend it saying that one of them had no teeth. I was pissed and said she’d find them hanging from a tree if I saw them unsupervised again. Saw her walking them on the lead a few times. Apparently one got hit by a car and died. A few neighbours complained about the behaviour of the husky as well. But that was a big dog being kept in a small apartment. Owner was completely to blame for all. She moved away.
Sure she did...