No he isn't. He has been one of the most important players for Dortmund up until March.
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No he isn't. He has been one of the most important players for Dortmund up until March.
He already rejected more money to join Dortmund, even though the reported signing bonuses are heavy. He isn't moving Dortmund in the near future and his next club will be a successful club.
My team doesn't have actual, real wingers. It's the fullbacks who provide the threat from wide positions. This is mostly true of Barcelona as well, though Neymar does play more on the wing. Juventus play with Mandzukic as a left-sided midfielder...
You have Martial who can play a role similar to Neymar's anyways
No. Top class wide players are a must. They don't have to be wingers
I agree that Carvajal and Marcelo are providing excellent width to RM but you also got Gareth Bale , one of the best wings in the world and has great flexibility in all positions behind the striker , can stretch forward and can cut inside if needed.
This I don't disagree about, but nothing prevents a team from having great backs + great wingers.
Martial getting thrown under the bus by everyone, a player who has already proved that he can do it in the premier league and is one of the world's best young talents. It's ridiculous at times how fickle people are, give the lad a chance ffs.
If we want to buy a wide get from Germany I recommend Douglas Costa. He's a mature player, quick and has an eye for goal.
If we want a Dembele I recommend the one at Celtic. The lad has a good eye for goal, doesn't seem the shy types as he's banging them in at CL level too.
If we want a Dembele I recommend the one at Celtic. The lad has a good eye for goal, doesn't seem the shy types as he's banging them in at CL level too.
I would never want to sign Douglas Costa, because he needs much space in front of him to make his runs. Does not have any technique, at all, but has unbelievable space, which he used very well in the Bundesliga in his first half year, there.
Since then his performances are quite weak and loses many balls, although he plays for the best team in Germany. I would rather sign Coman, who's younger and very good in 1vs1.
But I think Ousmane Dembele is the best teenager in Germany right now (joint with Pulisic), because he has such a speed compared with his great dribbling and technique, I have watched nearly every game of him this season and to be honest I've never seen such a special young talent. He is sometimes a bit too passionate, so he complains about every little thing, but I this will be better within the next years.
But I think that it isn't that probable that he will leave Dortmund in this summer, because he is very important for their style of play and I think he will stay there for 2-3 years to go to Barcelona/Real Madrid, then. It would be too dangerous to leave BVB to go to Man United, where he could sit on the bench or something similar.
I would want him but not at the expense of any of our current players.
We have more than enough money to convince anybody to come join us. We shouldn't have to "sacrifice" anyone to make the deal happen.
A front three of Dembele, Griezmann and Martial would be filthy. France are going to have an insane team in the coming years.
We have more than enough money to convince anybody to come join us. We shouldn't have to "sacrifice" anyone to make the deal happen.
A front three of Dembele, Griezmann and Martial would be filthy. France are going to have an insane team in the coming years.
We should see how Martial performs for the remainder of the season but I don't see him impressing Mourinho much. He simply lacks the determination to go out and perform when given the opportunity and I say this when I see Rashford perform when given the opportunity and when I see Martial play for us. Rashford wants to go out there and fight for every ball if it means running at the opposition defenders or track back and win the ball. Dembele would be a perfect replacement for Martial. All I see Martial do is sulk, he's lucky to have the supporters be on his side for now but with continuous bad performances, that may not last for long.
I don't know why we weren't in for him when he moved from France and if we actually were and he rejected us then what makes you think he'd sign for us now? He was clearly a great young talent and didn't cost very much to buy in the end and I'd imagine his wages aren't that silly. Great value actually...
He'll be fit into our 442 and 4231 formation.
If Jose is interested then do swap deal + money with Martial. I'm sure Dortmund will still be happy to accept the deal. I am not trying to rule out Martial here but if Jose doesn't play him then Martial has yet meet Jose's requirement, it's a good deal since we are replacing an unused great talent player with another talent player which can meet the manager's criteria. Jose might not like playing youngster but clearly it's not true since he gives Rahsford and Bailly chances.
If Jose is interested then do swap deal + money with Martial. I'm sure Dortmund will still be happy to accept the deal. I am not trying to rule out Martial here but if Jose doesn't play him then Martial has yet meet Jose's requirement, it's a good deal since we are replacing an unused great talent player with another talent player which can meet the manager's criteria. Jose might not like playing youngster but clearly it's not true since he gives Rahsford and Bailly chances.
I really think it's more important to get Martial reignited than to stack the attack with even more options.
We have a special talent, he just needs to knuckle down and work things through with Jose.
Maybe our style hasn't suited him. Maybe if Rashford moves central the opportunity for Martial to play more regularly will arise.
Maybe Martial needs to bring others into the game more consistently. But I'm sure the issue is not unsolvable.
We have a special talent, he just needs to knuckle down and work things through with Jose.
Maybe our style hasn't suited him. Maybe if Rashford moves central the opportunity for Martial to play more regularly will arise.
Maybe Martial needs to bring others into the game more consistently. But I'm sure the issue is not unsolvable.
I don't think we plan on stacking up players that we don't plan on playing. Martial just hasn't done much this season apart from the odd game he's scored and assisted. He's been inconsistent. I watched the game when Mourinho was screaming of the touchline to go and attack and take on the defenders. My understanding is if you've got the knack of taking on a man and beating them, you should do it. Clearly, Martial has lost his mojo because he hasn't done so in a while now. We are not scoring enough goals and that's the bottom line. Apart from Zlatan, our goals need to be coming from Martial, Rashford and Mhiki which haven't done so consistently which has resulted in numerous draws this season. Of the three, Martial just hasn't had many good games since his rough patch started during the Euros. Martial + money for Dembele would be a great deal for United and Dortmund.
After watching his best clips from that YouTube video, I can say he may turn up to be world beater, but so can be Marcus rashford or martial as well. I would not like to spend another 50k on young but potential world beater, rather ı would be more interested in getting neymar instead. If required unsettle him, start a coup but het him by selling our wayne rooney.
Ousmane is the same as Anthony in terms of mentality.
He's talented, but has nothing in his mind.
It would be a mistake buying in NOW, with United struggling and Mourinho aiming for every players.
Demeblé has a lot of issue at Rennes last year so I would wait until our team is full of top class player to surround him
He's talented, but has nothing in his mind.
It would be a mistake buying in NOW, with United struggling and Mourinho aiming for every players.
Demeblé has a lot of issue at Rennes last year so I would wait until our team is full of top class player to surround him
I'd rather we spent £50 million on Dembele than £100 million on Lukaku as Dembele is actually what WE NEED as he's a natural winger who plays from either flank, has raw pace, great dribbling ability and scares the life out of defenders which is something we've not had since the days of Ronaldo and Giggs.
If we were to have Dembele and Martial on either flank with Mkhitarayan or Mata as 10 and Zlatan or Rashford up top it would transform our play and we'd still have Lingard in reserve too which is bundles of energy and pace up top which is something a lot of the time this season we've lacked.
If we were to have Dembele and Martial on either flank with Mkhitarayan or Mata as 10 and Zlatan or Rashford up top it would transform our play and we'd still have Lingard in reserve too which is bundles of energy and pace up top which is something a lot of the time this season we've lacked.
Whenever I have watched him his final balls let him down or he chose the wrong decision. Great prospect but a lot of work.
We need this guy, if needed break the bank for him.
Impressed in patches tonight, raped Mendy a couple of times too.
You seem to have very strange view on players.
Dembele is as any inexperienced young player, he can inconsistent with his end product & pick wrong options. Difference is how his overall positioning, off ball movement let him get into game while Martial can be mark out of game just by opposition defender's positioning. Dembele can impact game by simply make run off ball & open space for other players to play. Both are exceptional on ball. Dembele has another dimensional on his dribbling since he's very very two footed thus/or have more tools to beat player from stand still position.
I am not sure what kind of issue he had. He pretty much carried Rennes. Reading Mourinho comment recently on Rashford vs Martial, it's clear that someone like Dembele is more workable than Martial for Mourinho. It's not the end product. It's overall play.
Easy there Pards.
In: Demble Mbappe Griezmann
Out: Zlatan Martial Rooney
If only...
Out: Zlatan Martial Rooney
If only...
Would suck a dick for that ish
So the French national team will have both this guy and Mbappé on the same team. That's kind of insane thinking about it right now. Quality.
I want them all actually, except for Rooney.
Imagine...
Mbappe
Lemar - Griezmann - Dembele
Pogba - Kante
Mendy - Laporte - Varane - Sidibie
Lloris
Lemar - Griezmann - Dembele
Pogba - Kante
Mendy - Laporte - Varane - Sidibie
Lloris
What a team!
Add Lacazette, Martial and Thauvin etc. It's crazy.
Was brilliant tonight even in a team struggling he stood out as the best player on the pitch (even outshone Mbappe for me) his dribbling and control is absolutely wonderful.
As soon as he came on he was instantly the focal point for Dortmund and even Aua/Reus took a back seat to him. Has the world at his feet great player.
As soon as he came on he was instantly the focal point for Dortmund and even Aua/Reus took a back seat to him. Has the world at his feet great player.
I've not seen much of him this season but he looks Figo-esque in his effortess dribbling and brilliant passing range.
Why would you get rid of Martial? I mean, if you're gonna get rid of Martial after one season you may as well get ready to ship out Mbappe/Dembele for the next flavour of the month when they hit a bad patch.
I think that if we just go out and buy either Dembele or Mbappe without thinking about our whole set-up we could see them struggling like Martial this season.
It's not strange view on players. I just think that a player must produce during games, but also in training and in his personal life. From what I heard about Martial at Lyon and Monaco, the guy doesn't like the competition and need to be coveted like a baby to produce, but unless you're Messi, Ronaldo or Neymar, you're not that protected by a club or a coach.
My point in Dembélé, is that he's still immature and very young, and since he had also issues with Montanier about performances last season, I just don't want him to be the next Martial. Let this kid grow in a good environment at Dortmund and then let's see.
I don't really think that, as talented he's, he can shine in this United side. He'll be broken by Zlatan's presence and we're not playing with actual wingers (they're always coming inside to let the full backs). Add the fact that Mourinho has no patience with young players, you can have everything you want for him to be the next Martial.
The issue is exactly the same with Koman at Bayern. He grew fast, played a lot of games in Turin and Munich, played in the NT during the Euro, thought he was arrived at the top level and then faded this season.
This generation of French players (I can include Rabiot, maybe Mendy too) are talented but they're not demanding enough with their production. They need to grow in and out the pitch.
Exception made for Mbappé that seems to be really smart
Don't see it. Figo never used to let the ball go anywhere while he lets it go here, there and everywhere. Figo was very cultivated while Dembele is raw. Now im of the opinion that he'll be much better than Figo ever was but not too sure he plays like him. He's much more of a Pele without the aggressiveness to consistently create his own shooting opportunity.
One major fact of his past:
When he was at Rennes, I think he was nearly 18 or 17, don't know his age, when this happened, but he denied going to training, because Rennes didn't let him go to RB Salzburg.
He threatened Rennes with retiring from football and going to Senegal to live there.
It's quite strange, but I think this shows his character traits, because he is still very young and sometimes very naive in games - in his decision-finding as well as in his behaviour, because he discusses every decision of the ref.
Which is also very funny: In pre-season, Dembele put his mobile phone into his socks to get some kilometers for his developing eggs in Pokémon.
When he was at Rennes, I think he was nearly 18 or 17, don't know his age, when this happened, but he denied going to training, because Rennes didn't let him go to RB Salzburg.
He threatened Rennes with retiring from football and going to Senegal to live there.
It's quite strange, but I think this shows his character traits, because he is still very young and sometimes very naive in games - in his decision-finding as well as in his behaviour, because he discusses every decision of the ref.
Which is also very funny: In pre-season, Dembele put his mobile phone into his socks to get some kilometers for his developing eggs in Pokémon.
Switching Ligue 1 for playing in the Austrian league sounds very strange to me for such a talented Player.
Yes, in a way, but you don't have to forget that it is RB Salzburg, they play EL/CL every season and I am sure that RB Leipzig would have bought him after one year like they did with several players (i.e. Sabitzer, Upamecano and Keita).
Salzburg is only a short stopover on their way to Leipzig, especially young talented players would never go to Salzburg without the option that makes it possible to go to Leipzig.
And at this point he wasn't a regular at Rennes, so it is a quite good deal to play regular professional football in Salzburg ( at the age of 16/17).
Looks thin this guy, might struggle in PL.
I agree.
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