I would not trade him for Martial. No way.
Ousmane Dembele | Fee agreed with Dortmund, medical on Monday, Barca go from MSN to LSD
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Martial up front please. He might be adequate for being a winger, but his main talents makes the striker position more suitable.50m in today's market isn't too much of a risk, especially for the biggest under 21 talent in the world.
Him and Martial on the wings of a 433 for the next 10 years
Didn't he just literally sign for Dortmund this summer?
I mean I'm all for talented young players being signed but can we at least stick to semi realistic ones!
I mean I'm all for talented young players being signed but can we at least stick to semi realistic ones!
It is still ironic, that these kind of comments come from supporters of a club with whom we actually made more deals with (as in actually reaching an agreement between the clubs) than with Bayern Munich.
The only way I can see him ending up at Bayern is as free agent in 2021. The more likely scenario is that he will be at Barcelona by that time already, though (moving for a large fee after 2019).
As for this rumour, all I can say is: Metro
Perhaps he will get there. IMHO he posseses the talent.In other words, "the next/new Ronaldo"
That's an extraordinary prediction considering that Ronaldo is one of the best players of all timeframe.
The current CR7 ( that came into "existence" in 2007/2008) though bears no resemblance to that one. By then he was a creative force that was also a goal threat. This version who is now a football legend is a relentless goal machine that happens to also create.
I would trade Martial for him.
metro = tribalfootball
Yeah let's not sign anyone as we'll turn them gash
Yep but let's also not promote our young players such as Lingard because they're already gash. The answer is obvious: no players, more noodle partners (I think this would actually appeal to the Glazers: no football just selling stuff).
Ousmane Dembele looks great but as we've seen from Martial he would be nothing like a sure fire hit with us. We'd need to give him a chance to start games in a properly-defined role and we'd need to be patient with him if he went off the boil or struggled to adapt.
Also though it's nice to be linked to good young players surely Bayern are the favourites for his signature?
Dembele has been far better and more consistent than martial was for monaco.
We bought him early for potential. Dembele has the potential but has also been excellent for dortmund a loy of the season as well.
Fair point, Dembele is more proven at this stage. I can still see the parallels though; Martial has had a poor season due to a range of factors but being in and out of the team and being used in an unfamiliar position can't have helped. If we sign Dembele we'd need a proper plan for him (which I expect Jose would have if he sanctioned the transfer) and would need to show patience if he hit a rough patch.
How are we favourites here? Why in the world would Dortmund sell us a player with four years left on his contract?
Nobody is getting him in the near future and especially not us.
Maybe not this summer and maybe not even soon, but given other transfers that have happened in the past between the two clubs I would expect Bayern to make a strong case to the player's representatives. You're one of the top clubs in the world and if Dembele wants to stay in Germany and play at the very top level you're the only option.
Great player but a laughable source , sadly.
Dortmund still would not want to sell to us. They never did. Lewandowski came after running out his contract, Götze had a release clause and Hummels had only one year left on his contract.
The only scenario in which we could realistically get him would be when he has only a year or less left on his contract. And then we would still have to fight against Real and Barca.
Yes, it may be difficult to get Dembele but with the money being thrown around, we could sway him here. With Bayern looking to offload Douglas Costa, they may look at him for their future to replace Ribery. Our team (apart from the Chelsea Game) have lacked pace. Martial's progress has stalled since last season. Even Rashford (who started as second choice behind him) has progressed so much so that Mourinho can actually gamble with him in the big games. Martial has been on the bench and despite us having to deal with the every 3 days a game situation, he still stuck with Rashford instead of Martial. If Mourinho does plan on getting rid of Martial, I just think Dembele would be the best option to replace him and 50M + Martial (buy or loan) wouldn't be so bad an offer for Dortmund.
A front three of Ousmane Dembele - Marcus Rashford - Mhikitaryan (MOM) would be hard to stop :P lol
A front three of Ousmane Dembele - Marcus Rashford - Mhikitaryan (MOM) would be hard to stop :P lol
Nope not happening. No reason for Dortmund to sell and he's only been there 5 minutes. If we are going to try spend a fortune on someone who only just joined their new club lets try get Sanches from Bayern while he is out of favour (seemingly).
We need someone more experienced in midfield like a Kroos to replace Carrick role at the base of the 3 man midfield. I don't think Sanches is capable of that. Sanches is more Herrera and we already have Pereira coming back to be Herrera's back up.
I would and throw in £20m as a sweetner.
If he cannot defend, he can feck off.
Probably nothing in it, although he's exactly the type of player we need. And actual, fast winger. Would be a fantastic addition.
Then, let's just buy Diego Godin and stick him on the wing
It's not as if we need any creativity and speed. And defending has been our biggest issue this season.Then, let's just buy Diego Godin and stick him on the wing
Why not?
Pace, pace, pace. It's fascinating how this place is obsessed with pace.
Especially when you consider that united don't lack pacey players at all.
If anything, they lack pace in moving the ball
Especially when you consider that united don't lack pacey players at all.
If anything, they lack pace in moving the ball
Yeah but Mourinho wants him (why else mention it more than once) so he had something in mind with him and that's good enough for me. But anyway both are as unlikely to happen as the other.
United were heavily linked with him under LVG last summer along with Breel Embolo so the thread title is not accurate
Based on the CL game with Monaco I saw last week,he's shite
United have no natural wingers. It's not obsession of the fans, it's apathy of the officials that they cannot provide such fundamental players for the club.
So it's an obsession with wingers rather than pace then?
Wingers aren't fundamental at all. Mourinho did well enough without them in his career
What you actually need, is a midfield playmaker who can control the tempo and accelerate the pace of your play when needed, plus a left sided wide player who can offer at enough of a threat to either keep the defence from over-committing on the right or punish them for doing it(and again, need quick movement of the ball for that)
That, and converting chances at a normal rate
Mourinho mentioned Chicharito more than once as well. Highly doubt it we're going in to sign him next summer.
He's very talented but is not scary like Martial.
Last season Martial is superior to this current Dembele.
Martial playing for Monaco today would look like Ronaldo Nazario.
Dont know what happened this season, but people should watch other teams, other leagues, youth tournaments; to realize how Martial is a very very specific thing, we should not give up on him.
Last season Martial is superior to this current Dembele.
Martial playing for Monaco today would look like Ronaldo Nazario.
Dont know what happened this season, but people should watch other teams, other leagues, youth tournaments; to realize how Martial is a very very specific thing, we should not give up on him.
Man Utd has built it's reputation over the years on wing play. Our wing backs apart from Valencia are not good enough when we use inverted wingers. We need to have the option of traditional wingers as well who are pacy and can break quickly on the counter. There are times when some teams are just going to sit back, so in order to break them, you need to invite them and hit them on the break which is where pace and creativity is required. Having Dembele in the side will only elevate us.
And I do agree we need a midfielder to control the tempo of the game but if he needs to release a quick pass from the deep, we needs quick forwards/ wingers to get on the end of it.
I can partly agree but that's obviously not enough to make this side fully functional. Midfield playmaker is needed but goalscoring winger with natural abilities to get through defending players could add a lot more offensive stance not to mention goals you already mentioned.
Couldn't care less what Mourinho did before joining United. He may not be United manager in few years if he'll keep serving same things Van Gaal did and so far we're exactly where he left us now, 5th.
To be honest number 7 should be sorted out long time before even Mourinho joined but that's a story for another thread. Hardly an obsession if you'll look how United underperformed through last 4 years.
There's no top team in the world who don't have a top class and goal scorer wing who can win the team games on his own. Look at all the top teams in the world.
Wings are needed to be able to stretch the game wide and have other options than backing the midfield with players. A top class wing is a must in any top team at present.
So Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial? Hehe
Lol. The lad could have been blown up the night before mate, but yeah.
I would. No brainer for me. And this is from a Martial fan.
I beg to differ. Martial was never that good to be ever compared to Ronaldo Nazario. I would say only Mbappe this season can be compared sort of. Martial had a great stellar season because we played to his strengths of getting the ball to his feet and he was unpredictable for defenders last season. This season, the PL defenders have learned to deal with him.
Football fans are so incredibly fickle. Berating Martial - the fecking kid who carried us at times last year. I've not seen much of Dembele, but has he carried Dortmund as Martial did last season?
Unlikely we will go for him. The Hernandez comments were more of an agenda to the club/current players I felt.
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