Rashford hasn't come close to Martial's debut season.
Ousmane Dembele | Fee agreed with Dortmund, medical on Monday, Barca go from MSN to LSD
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Got to be smoking drugs that man, look what this Neymar deal has started €100 is more than enough for Dembele
I might be missing something here but even if Woodward's in London, the club isn't and he'll most likely have to stay in Manchester.
Got to be smoking drugs that man, look what this Neymar deal has started €100 is more than enough for Dembele
It's theirs to decide what's enough and what not. He has another 4 yrs on his contract, no release clause, and they don't need the money.
Got to be smoking drugs that man, look what this Neymar deal has started €100 is more than enough for Dembele
But why would he say that? Of course he wants more. Also, he might reasonably expect his value to sky rocket. In 2 years time 100m euros for Dembele might look like a bargain. You can understand why he'd want to hold out for more. I think for this transfer to go through the player is going to have really agitate for a move.
I'm just jesting.
Players will probably more and more start to demand release clauses in their contracts now.
No point in being wise and signing for the club that will develop you if they refuse to sell you at a sensible price when that time comes.
No point in being wise and signing for the club that will develop you if they refuse to sell you at a sensible price when that time comes.
We should be all in for Dembele.... Come on Woody.... Make this happen
He's been there for just one season.
This. Sick of Barca and Madrid bullying small(er) teams. Everyone and their dog now know that Barca are sitting on €220m. They will of course inflate prices for the players Barca want.
Besides, like the above poster said, he has 4 years on his contract and no release clause. Barca will have to pay up whatever Dortmund think is the player's value.
Those clubs aren't doormats, they will let players go but the buyers have to pay serious fees.
Yes, not specifically him but in general, these prices are starting to get silly.
Altough Dembele has seemingly always had a soft spot for Barca, and that vacant spot after Neymar won't be vacant forever.
With these prices soon only the oil infused clubs will be able to buy the tier 1 talent.
I can imagine club specific release clauses being a thing in the future, that way the players dream moves can still be achieved.
The transfer market is just getting ridiculous at this point. Players like Eden Hazard went for fecking 40m only around three to four years ago.
There is nothing that prevent players dream moves to be achieved.
So if Dembele wants Barca and Watzke quote them 150m euros you don't think they will back out?
Of course there is something that prevent the players dream moves, price.
Barca sold the heir to Messi and Ronaldo for that some, probably the most marketable player in the world, and everyone and his dog knows only PSG could pay that sort of money, a club saying €100m is way way too low for a player is ridiculous.
He will be able to move when his contract ends or when Barcelona pay what they are supposed to pay. This logic that clubs like Dortmund should develop players and then bend over when Barcelona comes knocking is ridiculous.
Wow. Talk about ridiculous statement.
Martial and Rashford are from different hemispheres talent + potential wise and the superior player is obvious.
Rashford isn't in the same bracket as Martial ability, talent nor potential wise. Martial is in that top bracket talent wise, ballon d'or potential, something I doubt anyone even you would say about Rashford with a straight face.
Not a pop at Pogba, but using this summer's business to justify a past fee is pretty pointless. The rules have changed completely. Finding 'value' and establishing what represents 'value' is almost impossible.
Nicely put.
Pogba the bargain
This.
Sure clubs will resist at first, like Fergie used to balk at agent fees but with a lot of rich clubs competing for talent, it won't make sense to refuse a player's demand of a release clause. And it won't make sense for a player to sign without demanding one, considering how the transfer market is becoming.
True, but the club will also make sure the fee is beyond what they think the player is really worth to make sure they don't get stung. The club will always win...
It's not justified for the past but the respective for the remaining contract we have with Pogba as Watze put it. Nothing was justified for him not live up to full expectation of the past world record fee. However, looking at bigger picture, we made the right move at the right time. I meant Pogba fee is only marginally more expensive than the last which was few seasons ago. We had the spotlight to momentumally boost our commercial value when only a year later, 100mil is far from anything impressive. Now Pogba has pressure off his back after all of the that commercial gain after one year.
Not only you have no idea about how either players are going to develop but you also managed to work yourself up about a comparison that only you made. Also I'm only hopeful, I don't read the future in tea leaves.
€100m isn't an unreasonable fee.
And besides, as I went into great depth about in my 'refusing to sell a player who wants to leave' thread - these clubs should drop the moral high ground. He's only been at Dortmund a year, yes - but he had just been a pro at Rennes for a year too when they came and bought him. And they weren't so generous as to give Rennes €50m for him either, they were fine picking him up on the cheap themselves, now they are snorting at €100m. It's a food chain, they should respect their place.
That's what I meant with the inflation of prices and how the market has become.
I think if Dembele asked for a 100m release clause when he signed for Dortmund, they would've easily agreed to it. Now they are saying a 100m is far too low.
Where am I talking about the future? Reread my post again carefully and you'll realise I'm talking about potential and talent here, not whether they'll be fulfilled or not.
Also I'm only hopeful, I don't read the future in tea leaves.
I dont need to see the future, nor should you to tell whether a player is talented or has huge potential.
And for your other part I don't know what you're on about. The poster mentioned Rashford and Martial while claiming the former has shown to be better, so how is me comparing those same 2 mentioned to explain a point bringing a comparison out of nowhere?
Seriously what's up here?
Ridiculous statement
I didn't say any of the things you mentioned. Are you sure that you meant to quote my post?
Ahaha Martial Ballon d'Or potential. Love our deluded fans, he barely has PL TOTS potential.
Sure. They would eventually feed, but it's about the appetite of the eater. You know, an expensive fish from ocean is only cost that much to begin. However a piece of it at the high end restaurant through world class chef, price is different matter. Pricing is at the restaurant manager mercy. Want to it eat it. Pay or feck off. Restaurant reserve the right to service...
Griezmann has a €100 million release clause and he is a better player.... In this market for a player of Dembele's quality €100 million is a good price but they are making out like Barcelona are trying to rob them on the cheap and that isn't the case.
All except the last line which was intentionally provocative.
You need to take into account the timing, Dortmund has to replace Dembélé adequately and it takes time, if they don't and for example fail to qualify for the CL, they could easily lose 50m€ in TV rights and prize money.
OK I'm lost here. Didn't you quote my first post? Or was it a mistake on your part?
If not then I'd like to ask how I misquoted you? You clearly talked about me not knowing the future as to imply I'm jumping the gun in regard to both Martial and Rashford career path and how they'll turn out, to which I correctly reiterated that I was merely talking about their respective talents and potential not whether they'll be fulfilled or not.
And you other point was about me bringing random comparison out of nowhere which doesn't even make sense to me given the debate was about Martial and Rasher.
Ahaha, love our knee jerk fans that write young players off after one poor season.
It doesn't matter what you think is a good price. Dortmund can call up whatever they want. And they are smart to hold on to him. There's a WC next year, Dembele's price will only go up.
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