Other Wingers?

I'm still a bit surprised we never followed up our interest in Hirving Lozano. He has just gone to PSV iirc, but i thought he looked a real prospect. His overall skill-set was very reminiscent of Alexis. I was very impressed by his all round game, great touch and dribbling skills, but also a good decision maker for one so young. i think he would have been well worth a punt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOgyDHeJU4k
 
VanGaalyTime said:
I can genuinely think of 10 wingers that would improve United this season. We must buy at least one winger, DM and full back to even compete for top four this season. It's crazy that our scouts haven't identified the top 10 players for each position at LEAST 6 months in advance of the summer window.
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Yeah scouts have no idea what they're doing but you sat at home know best. Of course we'd have scouted all the players you're going to list. The scouts don't decide who to go for though.
 
I'd keep the powder dry on the winger front, target one of Dembele, Carrasco, Lemar or Pulisic next summer, don't settle for less just to buy now.
 
Jimble said:
this one gets my pick. Fast, direct runner, goal threat, South American flair, seems like he has a desire to succeed wherever he goes
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I know you're kidding, but I wish he was still here:

---Lukaku---Mkhitaryan
Rashford-----------DiMaria
----Pogba--Herrera-------

would be a fantastic front 6, and in tougher games we could just throw out:

---------Lukaku---------------
DiMaria------------Mkhitaryan
----Pogba----Herrera-------
-----------DM----------------

and frustrate teams until the inevitable Lukaku goal with that level of pace and creativity around him. I'd back us to be a tough out in Europe with that sort of wing quality and playmaking for a goalscoring 9, Pogba to run the show and Mourinho keeping things tight defensively.
 
NoPace said:
I know you're kidding, but I wish he was still here:

---Lukaku---Mkhitaryan
Rashford-----------DiMaria
----Pogba--Herrera-------

would be a fantastic front 6.
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The little bastard just couldn't wait till LVG got the sack :mad:
 
I'd take Lucas Moura at United, and if PSG are real about buying Neymar, keeping Di Maria, moving him to the right and playing Neymar on the left would leave Moura surplus to requirements concerning the starting XI. Maura is probably one of the fastest players around, and he knows how to go past a player.

I've been thinking that we are quite well stocked on the left. Martial plays there, Rashford can play there as can Miki. On the other hand, Mata is a ten, Miki can play as a RW as can Lingard, but all three of them are best through the middle. Maura would be our modern Kanchelskis on the right side.
 
Devil may care said:
I'd keep the powder dry on the winger front, target one of Dembele, Carrasco, Lemar or Pulisic next summer, don't settle for less just to buy now.
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Would you do that if gour job was on the line? Jose cant afford another finish outside the top four. He'll want players in.
 
One will go on the outside of the full back and deliver good crosses. We simply don't have that right now and with Lukaku, we will need that sort of player. All our wide players, full backs aside, always cut inside. For me, that's part of the reason we can be quite pedestrian in attack at times. It gives the opposition defence just a bit more time and it all becomes a bit congested.
 
Rossa said:
I'd take Lucas Moura at United, and if PSG are real about buying Neymar, keeping Di Maria, moving him to the right and playing Neymar on the left would leave Moura surplus to requirements concerning the starting XI. Maura is probably one of the fastest players around, and he knows how to go past a player.

I've been thinking that we are quite well stocked on the left. Martial plays there, Rashford can play there as can Miki. On the other hand, Mata is a ten, Miki can play as a RW as can Lingard, but all three of them are best through the middle. Maura would be our modern Kanchelskis on the right side.
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Lucas Moura has that Andros Townesend look about him, he has never impressed me so not sure why people think he will be a success...bang average!
 
Nate Dogg said:
Lucas Moura has that Andros Townesend look about him, he has never impressed me so not sure why people think he will be a success...bang average!
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He's one of the quickest players in the world, so is very useful in counter attacking football. Technically not the greatest, but then again nor is Perisic. From what I've seen, he doesn't really play like Townsend at all. A better comparison would perhaps be Mane as they are both very quick and somewhat raw.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Would you do that if gour job was on the line? Jose cant afford another finish outside the top four. He'll want players in.
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Ao you mean we can't improve the players we already have even considering that these players have posted acceptable figures before last season at various points in their careers? Are we really certain that Mata, Mkhitaryan, Martial, Rashford and Lingard can't conjure up a good season alternating behind and alongside Lukaku whilst being fed/helped by Pogba! I would rather we start the season with what we have than getting shafted on fees for a couple of 28 year olds and establishing a reputation of being an easy mark. If Jose can't come up with a list of players whose cost makes financial sense then he has to suck it up and work with what he has.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Would you do that if gour job was on the line? Jose cant afford another finish outside the top four. He'll want players in.
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I'd believe that a lot more could be gotten out of a young talent like Martial and to a lesser extent Lingard, rather than spend £50M on a mediocre player with no upside.
 
At this point I'd take mahrez in a heartbeat

the things he did during Leicesters title winning season were simply unbelievable. You don't lose that quality overnight. He'd be worth a punt on surely instead of paying ridiculous prices to foreign teams
 
Nate Dogg said:
If i had to narrow it down, both are just speed merchants with average technique and no end product.
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Townsend is no more than average for speed, but Lucas is absolutely blistering. Lucas is also a very good dribbler. Townsend is more of a "I got the ball so I'll shoot" kind of player. Lucas has a much higher ceiling and seems more of a team player to me. Somewhat limited viewing, admittedly.
 
I'd much rather we just go all out for the best option for the right wing which is very clearly Dembele and if we have to get a left winger due to not signing Perisic and Martial regressing on last season instead of improving then we go all out for the best option on the left.

I don't want to see us buy any more squad players really as we've got a great squad, just not a great starting 11 so it's adding the genuine quality to the starting 11 that's desperately needed. We need a first choice left back, a first choice midfield anchor, a first choice quality right forward and if Martial/Perisic (if we get him) underperform then also a first choice left forward.
 
It's looking more and more likely that Mourhino is looking at 4-3-3 and is set to unshackle Marital/Rashford from defensive Responsibilities. It's incredibly inefficient burden flair player like Martial with defensive responsibilities and I think Mourhino realizes that.
 
Tier one:

Neymar, Sanchez, Bale

Tier two:

Dembele, Mbappe, Di Maria

Tier Three:

Riyad Mahrez, Douglas Costa, Willian, Coman

For me Riyad Mahrez would be affordable and a really smart signing. He is such an exciting ball carrier and from a standing start, can take on anyone. If we could put in say a £25-30m bid and he would beg to come, it would be an excellent squad addition and I reckon him and Valencia would be a good fit.
 
NoPace said:
I know you're kidding, but I wish he was still here:

---Lukaku---Mkhitaryan
Rashford-----------DiMaria
----Pogba--Herrera-------

would be a fantastic front 6, and in tougher games we could just throw out:

---------Lukaku---------------
DiMaria------------Mkhitaryan
----Pogba----Herrera-------
-----------DM----------------

and frustrate teams until the inevitable Lukaku goal with that level of pace and creativity around him. I'd back us to be a tough out in Europe with that sort of wing quality and playmaking for a goalscoring 9, Pogba to run the show and Mourinho keeping things tight defensively.
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Man, a motivated Di Maria would be really useful right now.
 
davidmichael said:
I'd much rather we just go all out for the best option for the right wing which is very clearly Dembele and if we have to get a left winger due to not signing Perisic and Martial regressing on last season instead of improving then we go all out for the best option on the left.

I don't want to see us buy any more squad players really as we've got a great squad, just not a great starting 11 so it's adding the genuine quality to the starting 11 that's desperately needed. We need a first choice left back, a first choice midfield anchor, a first choice quality right forward and if Martial/Perisic (if we get him) underperform then also a first choice left forward.
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We invested a lot of money in Martial and we have a duty to stick with him, he is still a kid and his ceiling is massive still. He should be out first choice and we should invest in a decent backup in my opinion to take the pressure off.
Totally agree that with you on the right wing. We have a decent backup already but we need a 1st class winger which is clearly Dembele. A front 4 of Lukaku, Martial, Mhk and Dembele would be frightening!

If we got Dembele, id be more than happy to make do with what we have and get a world class DM and LB next summer when we have the budget for it.
 
Has Ousmane ever actually played as a designated right winger? He seems to have license to attack all across the front line whenever I've seen him play. How would he fare as a permanent right winger? At least Pulisic seems to play exclusively as a RF. He may not be as flashy as Ousmane, but he's highly effective.
 
It seems that Perisic is our only wing option. I say this because Mourinho said we may have to settle with three players instead of four, and I feel Jose is in need of another midfielder more than a winger.

Winger options:

Dembele
Insigne
Mertens
Coman
Bale (if Madrid get Mbappe)
Di Maria
Lucas
Carrasco
Lemar
Mahrez

Surely we could get one of these, as it seems Inter aren't willing to budge on Perisic.

Personally, I would get Mahrez.

Granted he didn't have the greatest of seasons last season, he is still a top player.

Not your typical Jose winger, i.e. quick, strong, hard working, but he's still very effective on the counter. He was fantastic the season Leicester won the league, who played on the counter. Give him room and he's deadly. Think he'd do a great job at United. Really don't know why we're not looking at him.

4231

Lukaku
Rashford Mkhitaryan Mahrez
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Walters_19_MuFc said:
It seems that Perisic is our only wing option. I say this because Mourinho said we may have to settle with three players instead of four, and I feel Jose is in need of another midfielder more than a winger.

Winger options:

Dembele
Insigne
Mertens
Coman
Bale (if Madrid get Mbappe)
Di Maria
Lucas
Carrasco
Lemar
Mahrez

Surely we could get one of these, as it seems Inter aren't willing to budge on Perisic.

Personally, I would get Mahrez.

Granted he didn't have the greatest of seasons last season, he is still a top player.

Not your typical Jose winger, i.e. quick, strong, hard working, but he's still very effective on the counter. He was fantastic the season Leicester won the league, who played on the counter. Give him room and he's deadly. Think he'd do a great job at United. Really don't know why we're not looking at him.

4231

Lukaku
Rashford Mkhitaryan Mahrez
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We seem to be after a left winger.
 
I don't get it btw. If United have the money, and Mou really wants Perisic, why haggle? Sure inter's price might be high for the player, but it's still £50M. Peanuts for united in this market. Just pay it and get it over with.

Only reason i can make sense of united unwillingness to pay that fee is they're looking at other options
 
Raees said:
If we could put in say a £25-30m bid and he would beg to come, it would be an excellent squad addition and I reckon him and Valencia would be a good fit.
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Leicester demanding 50m, 40 m minimum with arsenal involment
 
giorno said:
I don't get it btw. If United have the money, and Mou really wants Perisic, why haggle? Sure inter's price might be high for the player, but it's still £50M. Peanuts for united in this market. Just pay it and get it over with.

Only reason i can make sense of united unwillingness to pay that fee is they're looking at other options
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Not worth the money. There is better value for money out there.

But as a tactical point he's decent, so the interest.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
It seems that Perisic is our only wing option. I say this because Mourinho said we may have to settle with three players instead of four, and I feel Jose is in need of another midfielder more than a winger.

Winger options:

Dembele
Insigne
Mertens
Coman
Bale (if Madrid get Mbappe)
Di Maria
Lucas
Carrasco
Lemar
Mahrez

Surely we could get one of these, as it seems Inter aren't willing to budge on Perisic.

Personally, I would get Mahrez.

Granted he didn't have the greatest of seasons last season, he is still a top player.

Not your typical Jose winger, i.e. quick, strong, hard working, but he's still very effective on the counter. He was fantastic the season Leicester won the league, who played on the counter. Give him room and he's deadly. Think he'd do a great job at United. Really don't know why we're not looking at him.

4231

Lukaku
Rashford Mkhitaryan Mahrez
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I'd add Ribery to that list. We should make a bid and see if he wants a new challenge. His performances last season really impressed me. I don't care if he's 34, he seems to be playing better now than when he was nominated for the Ballon D'Or.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
It seems that Perisic is our only wing option. I say this because Mourinho said we may have to settle with three players instead of four, and I feel Jose is in need of another midfielder more than a winger.

Winger options:

Dembele
Insigne
Mertens
Coman
Bale (if Madrid get Mbappe)
Di Maria
Lucas
Carrasco
Lemar
Mahrez

Surely we could get one of these, as it seems Inter aren't willing to budge on Perisic.

Personally, I would get Mahrez.

Granted he didn't have the greatest of seasons last season, he is still a top player.

Not your typical Jose winger, i.e. quick, strong, hard working, but he's still very effective on the counter. He was fantastic the season Leicester won the league, who played on the counter. Give him room and he's deadly. Think he'd do a great job at United. Really don't know why we're not looking at him.

4231

Lukaku
Rashford Mkhitaryan Mahrez
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I'd love maharez , but feel we will still need a work horse winger who's decent for balance.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
It seems that Perisic is our only wing option. I say this because Mourinho said we may have to settle with three players instead of four, and I feel Jose is in need of another midfielder more than a winger.

Winger options:

Dembele
Insigne
Mertens
Coman
Bale (if Madrid get Mbappe)
Di Maria
Lucas
Carrasco
Lemar
Mahrez

Surely we could get one of these, as it seems Inter aren't willing to budge on Perisic.

Personally, I would get Mahrez.

Granted he didn't have the greatest of seasons last season, he is still a top player.

Not your typical Jose winger, i.e. quick, strong, hard working, but he's still very effective on the counter. He was fantastic the season Leicester won the league, who played on the counter. Give him room and he's deadly. Think he'd do a great job at United. Really don't know why we're not looking at him.

4231

Lukaku
Rashford Mkhitaryan Mahrez
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I'd love maharez , but feel we will still need a work horse winger who's decent for balance.
 
Devil may care said:
I'd keep the powder dry on the winger front, target one of Dembele, Carrasco, Lemar or Pulisic next summer, don't settle for less just to buy now.
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Carrasco may be attainable in January even. Vitolo will be able to play then and for all Carrasco's talent and match winning ability on his day I don't think he's Simeone's favorite player based on attitude. Simeone probably plans on him being a backup to Vitolo and Griezmann come January but then again maybe he'll play the Griezmann role should he join us. Carrasco at 50m would represent better value than Perisic, but obviously there's something specific Mourinho likes about Perisic's game that us armchair managers aren't picking up on it seems.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
It seems that Perisic is our only wing option. I say this because Mourinho said we may have to settle with three players instead of four, and I feel Jose is in need of another midfielder more than a winger.

Winger options:

Dembele
Insigne
Mertens
Coman
Bale (if Madrid get Mbappe)
Di Maria
Lucas
Carrasco
Lemar
Mahrez

Surely we could get one of these, as it seems Inter aren't willing to budge on Perisic.

Personally, I would get Mahrez.

Granted he didn't have the greatest of seasons last season, he is still a top player.

Not your typical Jose winger, i.e. quick, strong, hard working, but he's still very effective on the counter. He was fantastic the season Leicester won the league, who played on the counter. Give him room and he's deadly. Think he'd do a great job at United. Really don't know why we're not looking at him.

4231

Lukaku
Rashford Mkhitaryan Mahrez
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Mahrez is a talented player, but I don't think he's hard working enough for Mourinho's taste. Also, maybe I'm wrong, but we seem to be after a left winger?
 
prtk0811 said:
He brings Balance with work rate width and defensive contribution as well as a good wingback fit for 352 system
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A position he seems to never have played?

Where does this 'good work rate/defensive contribution' stuff come from, apart from Mourinho apparently looking for a 'defensive winger'?
 
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