Be reasonable Rado. Ignore the trash posts. You cannot seriously believe that this in no way reflects badly on the club, in some way at least.
OT EVACUATED | Device signed as having been recovered, could NOT be detected by sniffer dogs
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Be reasonable Rado. Ignore the trash posts. You cannot seriously believe that this in no way reflects badly on the club, in some way at least.
Was this a company hired by the club to run a drill or a company that requested doing a training drill using OT?
I don't think anyone has any details yet.
A training device left behind by our official Fake Bomb Partner...
It's completely understandable to evacuate the stadium when a device specifically designed to look like a bomb is found an hour before kickoff on matchday. Security event a few days before hand or not.
Are you still figuring out how we're going to get fined? The FA will have a field day, I'm sure...
I don't think anyone is debating that? The actions upon finding it are perfectly reasonable and correct. I think the issue centres around before the whole incident and why it was there.
It will reflect badly on our club even if it was the security firm. Thats just the way it is. When it did happen, we did act as we should do.
External company using OT.
The company is obviously mostly to blame. You can't leave shit like that lying around.. Why aren't they counted in?
But unreal to think that something which looks 'incredibly likelife' to a bomb, was stored in Old Trafford for 4 days, without detection.
Exactly. Even if you're 99% sure what it is you can't take the risk.
Was we not suppose to take correct percussion regardless? Not our fault the stupid external staff had a piss and forgot about his device. Rather that then believe someone really attempted to blow up Old Trafford.
It's a bad sign that there were seemingly no (or at least insufficient) checks between then and now, but if an external firm failed to keep track of their equipment then that's their dumb fecking fault.
The club handled the situation perfectly well and have been lauded by the police for their response, but the feckwads on here are too busy being embarrassed and thinking they know everything.
What the feck is wrong with people today? The forum has been unbearable. So many needless insults flying around and people jumping the gun.
And no one will or at least should question the actions upon it being found. But regardless of all the people who may say that I'm just using this to be juvenile and slam the club for anything I can find, I categorically believe that it reflects badly on us.
Don't think anyone thinks it isn't understandable.
Apparently we will be refunding all match goers and granting free entry to the replay. £3m.
The great thing was that it was a mistake by a external company and not left by some terroris nutjob.
If the latter happened it would have been much worse. I don't want the events happening in Paris the last 12 months appearing in the UK. Now thankfully we can have a laugh at this situation.
If the latter happened it would have been much worse. I don't want the events happening in Paris the last 12 months appearing in the UK. Now thankfully we can have a laugh at this situation.
Sounds like a regular day on the caf.
The funniest thing about this is that earlier this evening the club and GMP were being praised from all angles for their flawless professional handling of the situation. But fast forward a couple of hours and it emerges we planted our own fake bomb in the toilets and forgot about it, and neither the club nor the police had the presence of mind to realise what had happened before the decision was taken to abandon the match.
From heroes to clowns in one evening.
From heroes to clowns in one evening.
The overuse of the word embarrassing is embarrassing.
Knowing United theyll probably give the security firm another year because they dont want to be seen as a sacking club
What can you say really.
Wasn't pleasant today. I went and the positive is that the situation was handled pretty well.
But, how the hell this has happened I have no idea. They have had four days to clean this up. You'd have assumed that someone would have thought to search and tidy up a bloody fake bomb before 75,000 people attend a fixture. Maybe I'm missing something but ffs it really isn't that hard to tidy up after the exercise between Wednesday and a 3 pm Sunday kick off.
Either way, thankfully it was nothing serious. I'm looking forward to going to Wembley, don't get me wrong, but I won't half be glad when this season is done and dusted.
Wasn't pleasant today. I went and the positive is that the situation was handled pretty well.
But, how the hell this has happened I have no idea. They have had four days to clean this up. You'd have assumed that someone would have thought to search and tidy up a bloody fake bomb before 75,000 people attend a fixture. Maybe I'm missing something but ffs it really isn't that hard to tidy up after the exercise between Wednesday and a 3 pm Sunday kick off.
Either way, thankfully it was nothing serious. I'm looking forward to going to Wembley, don't get me wrong, but I won't half be glad when this season is done and dusted.
What part of 'employee' do you not comprehend? It makes no difference if it's a separate company or Old Trafford staff. If we chose to employ them to do our security, we're responsible for the fake bombs they leave laying around.
I don't see how people are blaming the club for this? Redcafe is something else.
I think the top fact alone is enough to be concerned. Concerned that any company has blanket and unsupervised access to our stadium. Concerned that there are no checks (at least apparently) before games. Stating that that is embarrassing for the club isn't an overreaction in my view. If you disagree, by all means go ahead.
So, let me guess, people are blaming LVG & Woodward for this somehow?
I can understand why you say that and accept that, but I am already seeing post on Facebook and Sky say how the club is badly run and how did it not get spotted for 4 day, we did it on purpose, in the eyes of non United fans,that is how they are thinking about United.
The only party to be faulted imo is the company that left their shit at OT and forgot about it. Club, police, military, stewards have all executed their tasks perfectly well, fale alarm or not. Better safe than sorry. There's no fecking around in today's times, especially after France and attacks near PdP.
But yeah, it pretty much sums up our season
To be absolutely fair being late twice for the matches was more embarrassing.
But yeah, it pretty much sums up our season
To be absolutely fair being late twice for the matches was more embarrassing.Ok.
My two shekels worth.
Someone fecked up and it all looks a bit daft for those concerned. Take it on the chin. What was the other alternative ? The worst ? Exactly .
My two shekels worth.
Someone fecked up and it all looks a bit daft for those concerned. Take it on the chin. What was the other alternative ? The worst ? Exactly .
Indeed, its a shambles though, embarrassing, disgraceful, blah blah feckin blah.
Of course, it's the theme du jour.
Do you believe that the club should allow blanket and unsupervised access to any company, even if it's a security firm, to Old Trafford? And do you believe that our pre match checks are sufficient given this was only found after people entered the stadium? That's where the club is, in my view, to be viewed badly.
who's this complete bellend?
Personally think a lot of positives can be taken from today.
The stewards and police had a genuine practice in how to deal with this type of situation, and I'd say they handled it very well.
The stewards and police had a genuine practice in how to deal with this type of situation, and I'd say they handled it very well.
I'm embarrassed for those who are embarrassed.
The reaction will be brilliant when we lose out on a player in the summer because we wouldn't pay an extra £3m.
So now we have revealed our security measures?
The only party to be faulted imo is the company that left their shit at OT and forgot about it. Club, police, military, stewards have all executed their tasks perfectly well, fale alarm or not. Better safe than sorry. There's no fecking around in today's times, especially after France and attacks near PdP.
But yeah, it pretty much sums up our season
Neither of which were our fault but do carry on regardless.