You know what I'm saying, its a way to show the US to be on top when really they are not, its the same on NBC's "today show", they are always saying USA on top of the medal table, the story is not quite accurate, the US media in general are touting USA as number one on a technicality, you can bet your life that if the medal totals were reversed between China and USA the US would still be on top due to number of gold medals won.
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You know what I'm saying, its a way to show the US to be on top when really they are not, its the same on NBC's "today show", they are always saying USA on top of the medal table, the story is not quite accurate, the US media in general are touting USA as number one on a technicality, you can bet your life that if the medal totals were reversed between China and USA the US would still be on top due to number of gold medals won.
so then how come www.yahoo.co.uk says "Overall" medal count and shows China as No1 http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/olympics/2008/medals/
the officail Beijing olympic website says "overall" medal standings and shows China as No1, so in fact you are wrong
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/INF/GL/95A/GL0000000.shtml
Perhaps, Alex, but in the 44 years I've been following the Olympics, the order of nations on the medals table was determined by the number of gold medals. The US media used this several times to claim "victory" when we had more golds than the USSR but fewer total medals. It's a bit hypocritical of NBC or anyone else to change the system now that the Chinese are raking in the shiny stuff.
Would you expect anything different
From the shills at NBC and ESPN, of course not.
I think it's unfair to rank Bronze on the same scale as a Gold on a table, and unfair to only recognise Golds. The fairest way would be 3 points gold, 1 Bronze...
Off the bbc...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7576446.stm
Off the bbc...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7576446.stm
A lot of Americans need to be number uno. They are adamant they are the biggest and best at everything. They can't bear to see the table without them leading and the media over here panders to them. Same with the sports they are screening. A ridiculous amount of time is spent on every US success like beach volleyball but they are pretty much skipping over the blue ribbon events like the 100m.
After watching many Olympics in the UK and seeing the last two over in the US, the difference in coverage is very noticeable.
On the plus side I have dual nationality so its been a good games for me, and my two countries combined total tops the medals for gold and total medals.
After watching many Olympics in the UK and seeing the last two over in the US, the difference in coverage is very noticeable.
On the plus side I have dual nationality so its been a good games for me, and my two countries combined total tops the medals for gold and total medals.
The only fair way is to ignore the whole process. Total number of medals won in obscure sports very few people in the world compete in is not really significant, except to brutish dictators trying to divert the attention of the populace (e.g USSR, DDR, China), or the morons who are in charge of the US media, catering to the locals who are only paying attention because the NFL hasn't started its regular season. Not only are the bronze and silver medals not as significant as the gold, but not every gold medal is of equal merit.
I think the most impressive gold medal given out at the Olympics is the men's 100 meter dash. Bolt can claim to be "the world's fastest human." Running (at a variety of speeds) is something most of the human race has done, so that's significant bragging rights. Conversely, I really don't care who gets the gold in mixed pairs badminton or duet synchronized swimming, although both carry the same weight as the 100 meter in the medal tables.
When the world's most popular team sport, association football, hands out a grand total of two golds, while Olympic weightlifting (not to be confused with power lifting) hands out 15, I'd be hard pressed to say that the fact Belarus could win three medals in weightlifting (one of each color) makes that fair land a better "sporting nation" than the winner of the Argentina-Nigeria showdown in football.
I can't see Ireland in any of the lists
Ireland has, at the moment, two bronze medals, so you need to drop way down the list to find them
2008 Olympics: Top Medalists
As of 8/22, 7:16 AM ET
ATHLETE SPORT GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
P. BARNES Boxing 0 0 1 1
D. SUTHERLAND Boxing 0 0 1 1
2008 Olympics: All Medalists
SPORT MEDALS ATHLETE EVENT
Boxing Bronze P. BARNES Men's Light Fly (48kg)
Bronze D. SUTHERLAND Men's Middle (75kg)
Kenny Egan, your lightheavyweight, is guaranteed at least a silver, which would move Ireland up the lists a bit. I'd mention the gold, but I think he's up against a Chinese boxer in the final, so he's already behind by around 4 points.
2008 Olympics: Top Medalists
As of 8/22, 7:16 AM ET
ATHLETE SPORT GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
P. BARNES Boxing 0 0 1 1
D. SUTHERLAND Boxing 0 0 1 1
2008 Olympics: All Medalists
SPORT MEDALS ATHLETE EVENT
Boxing Bronze P. BARNES Men's Light Fly (48kg)
Bronze D. SUTHERLAND Men's Middle (75kg)
Kenny Egan, your lightheavyweight, is guaranteed at least a silver, which would move Ireland up the lists a bit. I'd mention the gold, but I think he's up against a Chinese boxer in the final, so he's already behind by around 4 points.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm
they're there now, finally.
watch while they climb that table....
they might end up at 50th. That's pretty crap even by Irish standards.
A gold in boxing would tie Ireland with India in 46th place at the moment.
50th? 50th?? that's an outrage!!
I think we'll get to 54th.
I think we'll get to 54th.
I reckon that's the most fair way of doing it yes.
Russia take 3rd position with 19 gold.
Brilliant post.
Are they counting Georgia's medals as well
that brit who won the gold in boxing was a disgrace
It was a shocking fight
the referring was shite also...i clearly saw two strikes by the cuban boxer which the judges chose to ignore and the ref should have penalized the brit again for 'hugging' constantly
You must be joking, surely? The Cuban spent the whole fight running at DeGale, then leaning into him and flapping his arms about. Either that or he was throwing him to the ground and biting him.
Fess up Aussies, how much did you pay the ref?
Beijing - China has been denied their 50th gold medal of the Olympic games by Australia's Matthew Mitchum, who saved his best for last and leapt from 4th place to 1st following an error by China's Zhou Lulu. Zhou, who had been leading the entire night with a steady performance, saw his almost 40 point gap vanish when he botched his entry on his final dive, only receiving 74.80 points. Mitchum scored 112.20 to take Australia's first ever gold for diving.
Beijing - China has been denied their 50th gold medal of the Olympic games by Australia's Matthew Mitchum, who saved his best for last and leapt from 4th place to 1st following an error by China's Zhou Lulu. Zhou, who had been leading the entire night with a steady performance, saw his almost 40 point gap vanish when he botched his entry on his final dive, only receiving 74.80 points. Mitchum scored 112.20 to take Australia's first ever gold for diving.
Interesting article on the US's interpretation of the medal table:
Olympics: America turns the tables
According to the US media, gold medals don't count for as much as they used to. Wonder why that might be?
It's an odd thing: when the US media report on the Beijing Olympics medal tallies, they show tables with nations ranked by "total medals" won - rather than by gold medals won, which is the more usual way of doing things (since otherwise a bronze counts the same as a gold, which is hardly the case).
And yet - it wasn't always that way in America's media. Compare these two medal tables from USA Today. The first is from the 2004 Athens Olympics. The USA is number one in both golds and total medals - but notice that China beats Russia into second place, despite Russia having many more medals in total than China.
What's the reason for this? Anything to do with the likelihood that China is going to spank America's butt in terms of golds won - but that the USA has a chance to top the overall tally?
Perhaps the US networks should start celebrating bronze medals as the true sign of Olympic achievement? Because there the USA team still has a big lead.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2008/aug/14/bustedhowamericaturnedthe
Olympics: America turns the tables
According to the US media, gold medals don't count for as much as they used to. Wonder why that might be?
It's an odd thing: when the US media report on the Beijing Olympics medal tallies, they show tables with nations ranked by "total medals" won - rather than by gold medals won, which is the more usual way of doing things (since otherwise a bronze counts the same as a gold, which is hardly the case).
And yet - it wasn't always that way in America's media. Compare these two medal tables from USA Today. The first is from the 2004 Athens Olympics. The USA is number one in both golds and total medals - but notice that China beats Russia into second place, despite Russia having many more medals in total than China.
What's the reason for this? Anything to do with the likelihood that China is going to spank America's butt in terms of golds won - but that the USA has a chance to top the overall tally?
Perhaps the US networks should start celebrating bronze medals as the true sign of Olympic achievement? Because there the USA team still has a big lead.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2008/aug/14/bustedhowamericaturnedthe
the yank media is full of shit
The USA cant even get to the final of Baseball.
Ha Ha.
Ha Ha.
That's because they use amateurs
God how funny is that that cocksucker from Great Britain who was taunting the Jamaican relay team didnt even get a medal in the final of the 4x400
American v. Team fake Slanty Eyes
VIVA AMERICA
VIVA AMERICA
Damn I wish they had Bill Walton as the color man
Come on Melo Man
feck these refs already
Melo with the trey
The US should put in Paul or Williams and take out, dare I say James
DWade and WIlliams on for Kobe and LeBron
CP3 in
Entertainment so far. God is CP3 good, havent seen a PG as good as him since Magic, since fecking Magic, thats saying something
Once again these refs are awful
Holy shit if Bron slammed that, my god the man is a beast 38-31 after 1