Ole's press conference vs Spurs

Dante said:
Did you speak to him (Sir Alex Ferguson), and can you survive your position like he did in the early days?
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Sir Alex came to Man. Utd an accomplished successful manager. Ole came to Man. Utd.a flop who relegated Cardiff. If SAF faced a few obstacles before he begun to win games,we saw the projection in improving players hence his results. Ole on the other hand is deteriorating players and making diamonds look like aluminum yet he dare says he can survive this nightmare???:eek: what has he been smoking?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Can’t be arsed wading through the inevitable toxicity of this thread but did anyone decrypt this bit?


“I've had players come up to me. For example I don't read social media but when Paul came up to me, angry. We expect to be criticised, hands up, the performance wasn't good enough, we don't expect, we can't accept when lies are made up. Paul told me what he put up on his social media. We're better than that as a group - the culture, environment is better, we can't stand for blatant lies. They've gotta stand up and say so. All the opinions and reports, fine, but don't make up lies about players or me."
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It's the scenario of the truth being stranger (and more tragic) than fiction.

In these 'Darkest Times' as Ole has described, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if a public relations firm manufactured this entire thing to distract fans and other media from the more prevalent issues of losses. With Pogba screwing up by getting a red card after 15 mins on the pitch, he would have been more than happy to play along.
 
Ranchero said:
I don't know that the Fury analogy was wise.. And i cant for the life of me explain why.

All i know is we are the point that opposing fans are now singing Ole's at the wheel. When that happens you know we are a total embarrassment.

Bad enough we are crucified by Liverpool with inept team organisation. But those in charge should be fired for failing to act when it is plain as day that our tactical coaching is amateur hour.
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It’s definitely wasn’t. Fury is a world champion who has reached the very top of his profession. He was knocked down in fights he was winning and out boxing his opponent and got clipped by a far less talented, heavy puncher.

We are very rarely the best team on the pitch and we got taken apart by a far superior manager and football team which cost far less to assemble than ours did.

Liverpool wasn’t a knockout that we need to recover from. It was a 12 round 120 - 96 scorecard. A brutal reminder of just how far we are behind with him in charge.
 
Random Task said:
Welcome to the worlds most pointless press conference.

Anything Ole says from this point will get ripped to shreds and taken out of context by the vultures in the media and his own fanbase. There is nothing he can say that will please anyone, he's a sheep among the wolves.
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I know the thing, "I'm announcing my resignation".
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
Are you for real? Jesus wept. Why should he resign and lose the rights to what he is owed? Would you?

It's now on the club for not taking the decision. It's not his duty to sack himself ffs.

This forum is so incredibly naive it's incredible.
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While I agree he shouldn’t resign and I wouldn’t do it in his shoes, there was a narrative back then from the Ole inners that he loves the club and would step down if things go south. Now the narrative changed to suit the cult’s agenda.
 
hobbers said:
Not about naivety. A PR person wouldn't have Ole coming out with such muddled garbage. He can barely string a proper sentence together in any of his responses today.

Obviously the PR team have been in overdrive on social media and putting out puff pieces via all the friendly journalists.
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Have you ever heard President Biden or Donald Trump press conferences.
 
Did he mentioned energy and intensity?
 
Ferguson’s Hairdryer said:
If deep down he knows he’s not good enough but keeps up the act to keep himself in a job then he’s a fraud
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Maybe in your world people regularly sack themselves but in the real world it's rare. He's been a professional sportsman all his adult life told to battle to the last and that's what he's doing.
If he's not good enough then it's up to his bosses to judge that and deal with it.
The team came second in the prem and reached a European final last year- I doubt the fraud squad will take this case on.
 
We’re at the stage where whatever is said won’t be good enough anyway. A win won’t be good enough, a convincing win won’t be good enough. A string of convincing wins against good opposition? Maybe…
 
Mickeza said:
It’s odd. I’ve been reading a bit about Conte and apparently his training is “run, run, run” - maybe running actually is important? Who knew. I thought they were playing chess.
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It’s odd. I’ve been reading a bit of stats about our team we’re bottom or nearly bottom of every metric but yet we harp on about courage, hard work, passion.

So surely people are well within rights to have a go?
 
Mickeza said:
It’s odd. I’ve been reading a bit about Conte and apparently his training is “run, run, run” - maybe running actually is important? Who knew. I thought they were playing chess.
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https://www.givemesport.com/1701988...onio-contes-training-sessions-are-really-like

Speaking on The Football Terrace, Terreur explained how Conte likes to operate in training as he referred to how the former Inter Milan boss focuses specifically on positional play.

Terreur said: “They must be ready to suffer. They will get lots of tactical training sessions, he’s like the PlayStation manager. If he pushes the button, he wants you to move where he pushes the button, basically. They will have tactical training sessions, 11 against nobody to make sure they are in the right position.

“So, I see possibilities with Conte definitely, because he’s implemented his system everywhere quite easily. I remember following Italy during the Euros in 2016 before they played Belgium and in some games, I remember a friendly game in Malta, in Scotland, I saw them trying one long ball and that long ball came back in the Belgium game, in their first game, that one ball was the one that made the first goal. So, they really practiced it.”

This is what Conte training is all about. Has Ole even heard about something called tactics? His teams doesn't look like

And yes, training under Conte can be brutal however you don't hear Conte speaking about passion and intensity week in week out. That's because at this level its a given.
 
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Paxi said:
It’s odd. I’ve been reading a bit of stats about our team we’re bottom or nearly bottom of every metric but yet we harp on about courage, hard work, passion.

So surely people are well within rights to have a go?
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A go at a manager for wanting those things in his team? Like Bielsa. And every manager. And show me the running stats - I’ve heard different things. I believe we’re 3rd in sprints.
 
Kane hattrick coming up with Maggie at the back giving him all sorts of space to hobble into, even taking out our own Shawberto from Panama not to be mixed up with the Brazilian English hybrid that was running riot late last season. This won't go well.
 
Mickeza said:
A go at a manager for wanting those things in his team? Like Bielsa. And every manager. And show me the running stats - I’ve heard different things. I believe we’re 3rd in sprints.
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He had 3 years to implement that work ethic that he was talking about and yet we look diabolical so maybe it’s time for showing us what we do on the pitch first and then start trotting buzzwords out. It’s seriously tiresome now and it rubs fans the wrong way when they’re is a clear discrepancy between what is being said to us to what we’re seeing on the pitch.

Yes, you’re right… I’m having a go at him for something that he hasn’t delivered when he said he wanted us to be the fittest, most hardworking team in the league. That’s a very valid criticism in my opinion.

As well as being a coach, he needs to manage expectations of fans. If you’re going to talk like that then at least try to deliver. In three years of watching Ole’s team I would never find find hard work and dedication synonymous with Manchester United. You mention Bielsa but he has his team working like dogs. So if Leeds account decides to put someone up in regards to that teams ethos or whatever other buzzword; I don’t expect there to be sniggering from the Leeds fans.

United 14th in the league for total distance ran, admittedly I found that on the daily star so it’s not the most reliable source. However there are equally damning stats on the sky sports page linked below.

https://www.skysports.com/amp/footb...derline-the-problems-for-ole-gunnar-solskjaer
 
Paxi said:
Yes, you’re right… I’m having a go at him for something that he hasn’t delivered when he said he wanted us to be the fittest, most hardworking team in the league. That’s a very valid criticism in my opinion.
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It is. I’ve done it myself - I’ve been saying for 4 weeks that for all the buzz words about patterns of play and moments it’s actually the very fundamentals we’ve been lacking in. However, that isn’t what this place has been doing though. It’s been going into meltdown every time the manager dares to mention running and intensity because they want to hear about pretty patterns instead. Hence my comment to Devilish who was mocking those aspects that you decided to reply to. We’ve been a shambles off the ball since Southampton. I’ve never said anything different.

Can you link the daily star? It’ll be interesting to see where the other top sides are. We have more of the ball so naturally would run less than say a Burnley you’d think. I’m sure Mitten said we were 3rd in sprints and mid table around our competitors earlier this week on talk of the devils.
 
Giggsyking said:
So you came to the conclusion we were telling you for the last 3 years only on sunday? It took you a long time.
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Oh don't play this I told you so malarkey. I won't feel bad about supporting a club legend as our manager.

And it's not just Ole that needs to change for us to be title winners again anyway. Under these clowns I doubt we will ever win it again.
 
Some more interesting questions in the uncut version.

He didn't get any assurances about his future from the board.
 
His voice kinda broke when asked about rival fans singing "Ole's at the wheel".
 
Mickeza said:
It is. I’ve done it myself - I’ve been saying for 4 weeks that for all the buzz words about patterns of play and moments it’s actually the very fundamentals we’ve been lacking in. However, that isn’t what this place has been doing though. It’s been going into meltdown every time the manager dares to mention running and intensity because they want to hear about pretty patterns instead. Hence my comment to Devilish who was mocking those aspects that you decided to reply to. We’ve been a shambles off the ball since Southampton. I’ve never said anything different.

Can you link the daily star? It’ll be interesting to see where the other top sides are. We have more of the ball so naturally would run less than say a Burnley you’d think. I’m sure Mitten said we were 3rd in sprints and mid table around our competitors earlier this week on talk of the devils.
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https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...ht-the-defensive-mess-at-man-utd-this-season/


https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/man-united-premier-league-stats-25306101.amp


There you go mate.
 
Mickeza said:
Cheers. I’d love to know where they get these stats from! And also what constitutes a “team press”. How many times we win the ball in the final 3rd in comparison to City/Chelsea and Liverpool would be a great stat too.
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I would love to find a website that compares all the team data as well. Admittedly, anyone with an agenda can use stats to back up their point but I’d love to see it for myself.
 
It has reached the stage with Ole, where damage limitation to his own legacy is more important than the damage he is doing to Manchester United.

If you don't believe me then look at what he said to Sky Sports this week:
“I am not going to let a period like this define me."

If proof was ever needed that he puts himself before the club, then there it is right there.

For those wishing he would take the 'honourable' route and fall on his own sword, I'm sorry to say that will not happen.
 
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The Oracle said:
It has reached the stage with Ole, where damage limitation to his own legacy is more important than the damage he is doing to Manchester United.

If you don't believe me then look at what he said to Sky Sports this week:
“I am not going to let a period like this define me."

If proof was ever needed that he puts himself before the club, then there it is right there.

For those wishing he would take the 'honourable' route and fall on his own sword, I'm sorry to say that will not happen.
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Oh come on, what can he say? He's signalling that he's not going to give up, and that he hasn't lost confidence that he can achieve something. Completely appropriate. What else is he going to say, considering that he's going to be tasked with getting results against Tottenham and at least another couple of games? "Frankly I'm not sure I'm up to it, but I guess we'll find out on Sunday"?

I never cease to be amazed by how this forum never thinks the real problems are enough, but needs to invent imaginary ones to supplement them.
 
justsomebloke said:
Oh come on, what can he say? He's signalling that he's not going to give up, and that he hasn't lost confidence that he can achieve something. Completely appropriate. What else is he going to say, considering that he's going to be tasked with getting results against Tottenham and at least another couple of games? "Frankly I'm not sure I'm up to it, but I guess we'll find out on Sunday"?

I never cease to be amazed by how this forum never thinks the real problems are enough, but needs to invent imaginary ones to supplement them.
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I guess the lad above meant it’s been quite a lot about Ole and less about United. Sure, he was interviewed as OGS and he has all the right to talk about his image and how he feels, especially asked about that, but sentences like the one quoted above about this period “not defining Ole” are a bit tough considering the damage done to the club, frankly United and players shouldn’t care at all about what defines Ole and what not. It’s what defines club that matters, and lately we’re very much defined by his incompetence.
 
I don’t get this “last few weeks” stuff. The rot has been there for a while. Finishing second last season was very deceptive. I can’t think of a worst second placed team in many, many years.
 
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