Ole: "We should look for quality players that can improve us. We’ve got to think about longevity"

Ole isn’t stupid enough to want Bale.

Young and hungry players on an upward trajectory. That’s what Fergie went after, and that’s what Ole knows is best for the club. It would genuinely shock me if we even pursued him at all.
 
Good to see that Ole won’t be interested in players who are approaching the end of their prime. Hopefully we never see another Sanchez incident at United again, and these fecking Bale rumors can finally go away.

The only position where it’s acceptable to get a player that we might only get 3 good years out of is CB. Everything else we shouldn’t be looking at these short term, past their prime or soon to be past their prime players.
 
2 man midfield said:
Ole isn’t stupid enough to want Bale.

Young and hungry players on an upward trajectory. That’s what Fergie went after, and that’s what Ole knows is best for the club. It would genuinely shock me if we even pursued him at all.
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I love how the first name that most of us think of when a discussion like this comes up is Bale :lol: The links to this crock have really done a number on us over the years. I almost wish he would go to another non united club just so that the links to us will be put to bed permanently.
 
Bale would be a possibility on a cheap deal or for free. But we wont pay what Real would want for him and then his huge wages. Nah, i dont buy it.
 
Bale and Neymar are Woodward fantasies. They have both racked up injuries so I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole, but Woodward would cream himself over the social media impact.
 
Cloud7 said:
Good to see that Ole won’t be interested in players who are approaching the end of their prime. Hopefully we never see another Sanchez incident at United again, and these fecking Bale rumors can finally go away.

The only position where it’s acceptable to get a player that we might only get 3 good years out of is CB. Everything else we shouldn’t be looking at these short term, past their prime or soon to be past their prime players.
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Why is centre half an exception?
 
sherrinford said:
Why is centre half an exception?
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A) They usually peak later than most other positions.

B) Positional sense and reading of the game are most important as a CB, so when their physical attributes decline it won’t be as much of a hinderance as it would be for a winger, for example.

I’m not saying that I wouldn’t be happy if we looked for players with their best years still ahead of them, such as a De Ligt or Skriniar, just that signing a 30 year old CB is much less likely to be a disaster than a 30 year old winger.
 
breakout67 said:
Bale and Neymar are Woodward fantasies. They have both racked up injuries so I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole, but Woodward would cream himself over the social media impact.
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Do we know this for sure? Didn't the club deny interest in Bale previously? And what would make Woodward "cream himself" is the club actually winning some trophies again.
 
Cloud7 said:
A) They usually peak later than most other positions.

B) Positional sense and reading of the game are most important as a CB, so when their physical attributes decline it won’t be as much of a hinderance as it would be for a winger, for example.

I’m not saying that I wouldn’t be happy if we looked for players with their best years still ahead of them, such as a De Ligt or Skriniar, just that signing a 30 year old CB is much less likely to be a disaster than a 30 year old winger.
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Agreed.
 
Aloysius's Back 3 said:
Bale is happening.

We are going for mostly long term players with one experienced (quality) player in my opinion.
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We already bought the experienced winger we needed ie Sanchez. I can't see us doing the same mistake again.
 
deadrevelz said:
Where does Bale fit into that?
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About bale he responded about quality. Afterwards he continued about how he has to think about longevity - which my eyes means that bale will only happen if Sanchez is sold.

I can see us going for a young CB because the only experienced LCB is koulibaliy and the prices that are wanted for him we might as well go for one of the young ones.

RB - doesn't seem to be anyone available except young players to be fair - especially if we exclude options like munier or Rafael that the caf talk about more than anyone else

CM - we don't need experience and we need creativity to help build a passing network within our team long term.

RW - I don't think we need one as we hardly have a proper LW whilst we do play with 2 strikers most of the time. I don't necessarily see how a striker like Rashford or Martial or Greenwood are going to benefit from a wide creator than say a central creator or a false nine. I only see Sancho wowing me at RW - yet I can't see us playing with a RW unless it's Lukaku upfront by himself. Bale in at RF or a false nine comes for Sanchez is more likely in my head to even out the attacking experience.

If not then a player like jaoa felix comes in - that false nine is more important than a RW.
 
Catt said:
Do we know this for sure? Didn't the club deny interest in Bale previously? And what would make Woodward "cream himself" is the club actually winning some trophies again.
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Of course we don't know this for sure, but we can have confidence. We do know that Woodward cares a lot about the marketability of players. He said in a conference call after we signed Sanchez, that his signing made more social media impact than Neymar's and this was a signal that it was a good call to sign him. He has also said on multiple occasions that he wants to buy world class players and supplement them with youth products.

I would not be surprised if Sancho has taken over Bale in the board's eyes. Because he is already performing at a high level and likely to be world class. Neymar is still world class so he fits the bill.
 
Aloysius's Back 3 said:
About bale he responded about quality. Afterwards he continued about how he has to think about longevity - which my eyes means that bale will only happen if Sanchez is sold.

I can see us going for a young CB because the only experienced LCB is koulibaliy and the prices that are wanted for him we might as well go for one of the young ones.

RB - doesn't seem to be anyone available except young players to be fair - especially if we exclude options like munier or Rafael that the caf talk about more than anyone else

CM - we don't need experience and we need creativity to help build a passing network within our team long term.

RW - I don't think we need one as we hardly have a proper LW whilst we do play with 2 strikers most of the time. I don't necessarily see how a striker like Rashford or Martial or Greenwood are going to benefit from a wide creator than say a central creator or a false nine. I only see Sancho wowing me at RW - yet I can't see us playing with a RW unless it's Lukaku upfront by himself. Bale the RF or false nine comes for Sanchez is more likely in my head.
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If we buy Sancho, Lukaku wouldn't be playing imo. Martial - Rashford - Sancho. Maybe Lukaku if we change formation for big away games.
Bale would be too expensive for his age and injury record, don't see the point. Watching the press conference, Ole wasn't saying that we need quality + longevity separately, more that he wants players who fit both of those criteria which rules out Bale. He was just being polite, don't see him being interested.
 
How are we to accommodate Bale, Sanchez, Pogba and De Gea on such high wages? So Bale is not happening. However, I do feel that Bale could end up at PSG (if Real use him in a deal to get Neymar), Tottenham (if Real use him in a deal to get Eriksen or Kane) or Chelsea (if Real use him in a deal to get Hazard).

With longevity into account, I don't see Bale here.

Sancho seems like a candidate with quality to improve the RW and would bring longevity. Typical SAF signing (especially since he's British)

Rabiot.... not sure if he'll gel at United.

Ndombele would be immense

Lastly, De Ligt should be a target but Ole might just work with the CBs we have.
 
deadrevelz said:
I don't understand people who don't understand why people are obsessed.

I would rather keep Dalot as first choice for next season, but considering the state of our RBs over the last 5 years I fully understand people who want a consistent performer there for once. Dalot has looked great going forward but has barely been tested defensively.
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Valencia was a top right back before last season.

Dalot looks like he will be a consistent performer there - an asset going forward but defensively suspect. Wan Bissaka is a terrific defender, but a back four involving him and Shaw will probably mean that we would not get a meaningful contribution in attack, consistently.
 
deadrevelz said:
I don't understand people who don't understand why people are obsessed.

I would rather keep Dalot as first choice for next season, but considering the state of our RBs over the last 5 years I fully understand people who want a consistent performer there for once. Dalot has looked great going forward but has barely been tested defensively.
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Getting obsessed over a player who is having his first fine season is fecking weird to me yeah
 
Why do people wan bissaka?

Because City have Walker & Danilo

Because City have Zinchenko or Mendy

We need quality as well as quantity these days - as long as they are willing to bleed United & play with a level of quality expected then bring them in.
 
kouroux said:
Getting obsessed over a player who is having his first fine season is fecking weird to me yeah
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That applies to Dalot too. Young isn't a real RB and looks to be declining. I was referring to right back in general anyway, not specifically AWB.
 
I wonder where the cut-off point is when it comes to age, for instance if we had a chance get Eriksen would him being 27 be held against him? It almost surely rules out Bale and hopefully Alderweireld with Koulibaly also likely scratched off, although the price Napoli want might have seen that happen anyway.
 
deadrevelz said:
That applies to Dalot too. Young isn't a real RB and looks to be declining. I was referring to right back in general anyway, not specifically AWB.
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But Dalot is here already and has shown signs of what he can potentially do. I'm not against signing a RB but the obsession over this particular player is funny to me.
 
I really like a 19 year old kid from roma called nicolo zaniolo. We need more creativity and energy on the pitch in the middle than just pogba.
 
Bales time has passed, hope we don't go for him, too many injuries in the last few years.
Still capable of great things, but not one for the future.
 
kouroux said:
Getting obsessed over a player who is having his first fine season is fecking weird to me yeah
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He was actually playing well from late last season. Agree though no need for the obsession, but he does look like he could be a very good player.

I mean there is currently an obsession with Sancho also....
 
I'm not in TeamWanBissaka. For one thing, that would completely undermine the trust we have in Dalot inasmuch as developing him to be the guy in that position. It sends the wrong message.

Another thing is that I believe that Wan Bissaka's generous physical genetics make up a large part of what people seem to like about him, because he does lack in the final third when it comes to decisions.
 
Why all the talk of obsession? Let's not be silly. I don't think it is obession to want a young RB to be given a significant role at the club when giving youth a chance has been a core value for us. However, I would not be against signing a top quality RB so Dalot must then prove himself against them - or be backup while he matures.
 
Aloysius's Back 3 said:
Bale is happening.

We are going for mostly long term players with one experienced (quality) player in my opinion.
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We'd be foolish to go for Bale. That's like throwing money down the drain. He can't even remain fit in a league which is less physical in nature than the EPL. How on earth is he going to remain fit in a more competitive physically demanding league? Imagine the wage bill increase for a player who will spend portions of it watching from the sidelines.
 
Buy De Ligt - 80m
Buy Sancho - 100m
Sell Sanchez - 30m (this is what we need to pay him out for around half amount of salary from his remaining contract, in order to let other clubs to sign him with lower salary)

Total transfer fee: 210m
 
As far as I can see De Ligt will go to Barca, Sancho won't move yet, Rabiot fails the personality criterion, Bale fails the longevity criterion, Wan Bissaka is superfluous with Dalot and Laird. And probably only a couple of signings, with a lot of youth promoted.

Most of these lists need rewriting.
 
He's saying the rights things time and time again. Talking about longevity - amen. We've done nothing but panic since 2013.
 
We'd be stupid in signing Bale.

It would be doing Madrid a huge favour.
 
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