Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%

  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%
  • Total voters
    3,423
  • Poll closed .
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What makes me laugh is the whole we've made progress thing. I've never seen how we have, we've gone from winning no trophies to still not winning any trophies. How can that be called progress?! He has been in charge for three of those four years too.

The excuses have all dried up now. He's just a shite/lucky manager. Should've been sacked when we went into the bottom three at Christmas two years ago.
 
Liverpool are going to get a United manager sacked twice in a row, aren’t they? cnuts
 
He should have gone way back but we have too much sentimentality. Mark my words he will never get another PL job
 
It’s absolutely time to make the change, but no way we’ll bring a new man in with the fixtures we have coming up. We’ll wreck our season in the next 3 weeks and get rid of him in the next international break. I can’t see a scenario that he stays beyond that.

Hopefully DVB and Sancho look like stars under a new man
 
Still no poll on Ole. The football and results are as bad or even worse than the last few months of Jose. But remember how fast we had a poll on Jose? It was like the mods were eagerly waiting to start the poll at the very first sight of trouble.
 
Josep Dowling said:
What is this culture he has built?
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Listen, we were toxic as feck when he came in. We are much better in that regard. But his not going to take this team any longer imo and we should act accordingly. Erik ten Hag should be on our shortlist.
 
Roboc7 said:
Sooner it’s done the better, whoever comes in has loads of work to do. There’s no playing style, no system or evidence of any plan on or off the ball.

The club can’t have a season plodding along and patting themselves on the back because of a cultural reboot. This season there needed to be evidence of huge improvement, it was never going to happen and sooner people in charge realise the better.
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Board: "So we're looking for a new manager"
Candidate: "Yes, I'm up for it".
Board: "Can you coach them so they play like a team though?"
Candidate:
 
They won't sack him until we're out of the CL. They only sacked Mourinho because he was burning the club down.
 
DOTA said:
Answered above. It's not his capabilities I think we'll find out about. It's whether the players are able to bounce back under him. If they are able to then I think getting rid at a crucial time is the riskier option, so would be inclined to stick with him. If they aren't able to then we've nothing to lose and are better off saying our goodbyes.
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If the players bounce back under him, we still know that he has a very low ceiling. A ceiling that is far from competing for the big titles.

So what does it matter? Let’s assume we win the next 2 matches, 35-0 each. We still know that Ole is a pretty awful manager that won’t ever challenge for a title, and is completely clueless on playing against a low block.

So why prolong the misery?
 
Not with our board, we'll wait until it's mathematically impossible to get top four and waste another season, when everyone knows it's inevitable.

They'll be getting the leaks ready now of 'business as usual' and 'still retains full backing'. :mad:
 
Acole9 said:
What makes me laugh is the whole we've made progress thing. I've never seen how we have, we've gone from winning no trophies to still not winning any trophies. How can that be called progress?! He has been in charge for three of those four years too.

The excuses have all dried up now. He's just a shite/lucky manager. Should've been sacked when we went into the bottom three at Christmas two years ago.
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wtf :lol: that never happened
 
Can't wait for the borad's next extremely stupid/hilarious appointment. Whatever will they think of next? Stay tuned, this is United Circus TV.
 
Honestly I don’t want to go down the route of Conte who is a contrast to the players we have or zidane who doesn’t want to manage in England.

so I’d like to see us go for a double Ajax swoop
Ten Haag as head coach and VDS to replace woody. We need a football man in that position
 
I've been quite supportive of the manager up until now, but today has been a watershed moment for me. Ole and his staff need to go. There isn't an outstanding candidate in my opinion and many of the possible options are quite unrealistic, especially mid season. I'm thinking ten Hag, Luis Enrique or Zidane. However, I'm not sold on any of them and am happy to hear of any other alternatives.

On a day like today it would be easy to have big doubts about some of the players too. For instance, as time goes by I'm thinking more and more that signing Ronaldo was a mistake. I just don't think we can carry players, although I'd like to believe that with a top tactician in charge and improved coaching, we could function better. Could be complete delusion on my part.
 
Acquire Me said:
Listen, we were toxic as feck when he came in. We are much better in that regard. But his not going to take this team any longer imo and we should act accordingly. Erik ten Hag should be on our shortlist.
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The only culture United need is a winning one. If we continue with our current trajectory there will be another toxic changing room left for the new manager. That’s if the board don’t make a change soon anyway.
 
Won't happen. At least not for awhile until top 4 is looking very grim and/or the big players throw a strop. He's too patchy as a manger as it is so for every bad spell he's had he always responds with a good one that keeps him in the job.

Unless the players revolt (possibly) or the match going fans (probably not) then I think he'll be here until the end of the season and we'll assess from there. I seem to be writing this every season he's been here but it's true :lol:
 
Revan said:
We are an utterly ridiculous club, with a crazy board, awful manager and a religious cult of fans who worship the manager.

So likely, later rather than sooner.
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He’s indefensible after today. That was arguably his biggest game as manager, with the pressure he is rightly under. The biggest calamity of a performance in that second half I’ve ever seen. We were lambs to the slaughter.
 
In ten years time, Ole may well be the best managerial fit for United. But right now, he needs to go, learn his trade, get vital experience under his belt, win a trophy or two, then return. Or, he’s a decent number two. I will still laud him for turning this squad around post Mourinho, but he’s simply not ready yet for a job this size, and there is no disgrace in that. He’s a good Sales Manager who’s been catapulted to CEO to steady a destabilised ship.
 
Hisha said:
Still no poll on Ole. The football and results are as bad or even worse than the last few months of Jose. But remember how fast we had a poll on Jose? It was like the mods were eagerly waiting to start the poll at the very first sight of trouble.
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There is a poll and has been for about half an hour in Raouls thread.
 
He's served his purpose to oversee the repair work from Mourinho/LvG. Now bring in an actual manager with experienced staff.
 
How can anyone say they wouldn’t prefer world class conte over ole? Same ones who think mctominay is world class. We have some utterly clueless fans.
 
Presumably the board refuses to sack Ole because it’s empathetic towards someone clearly out their depth. The board has failed in its job just as much as him and was doing so long before he arrived on the scene.
 
Speako said:
In ten years time, Ole may well be the best managerial fit for United. But right now, he needs to go, learn his trade, get vital experience under his belt, win a trophy or two, then return. Or, he’s a decent number two. I will still laud him for turning this squad around post Mourinho, but he’s simply not ready yet for a job this size, and there is no disgrace in that. He’s a good Sales Manager who’s been catapulted to CEO to steady a destabilised ship.
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He’s a snake oil salesman. Completely awful at everything except talking the talk.

Considering the backing he has had, he has been as bad as Sir David Moyes.
 
MUFC OK said:
How can anyone say they wouldn’t prefer world class conte over ole? Same ones who think mctominay is world class. We have some utterly clueless fans.
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I want ole replaced but I don’t want Conte. He’s a complete contrast and we’d need to rip it up and start again
 
What is the manager and coaches doing in training? Teams like Wolves, Villa, Everton, Villarreal, Young Boys outplayed us.

We need change immediately. No more bullshit need time to implement style of play and whatnot.
 
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