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Ole Sack Watch
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But Hodgson wasn't exactly Liverpool was he like the original post said?
Must be a happy day for the 15 percent numpties and oppo fans
A behemoth club like Manchester United is held and judged by different standards, we should be going for trophies and dominate teams, not just top four and barely win matches, and it’s not matter of entitlement, we are the most successful club in England, we dominated for decades, we are among the highest spenders in the sport, we don’t get judged the same way Brighton, Watford, etc do. We are mediocre, would Bayern, Real, City, Chelsea, etc be happy with top four and no trophies?
There are also some of us who just don't think sacking Ole right now is the best way forward, as I don't trust the hierarchy to replace him correctly, the squad is a bit of a mess in terms 7 million attackers and a weak midfield and some huge egos and contracts that probably won't be resolved until next summer. Plus i don't think the best managerial candidates will be available to them.
So sacking him now and bringing whoever we can get and have them limp through the season doesn't seem the best way forward in terms of the long term. So think we are better of waiting to let Ole go at the end of the season.
AKA he's getting the season if it's the last thing Ed does
How a win against one of the poorest Spurs sides in a decade helps in any way shows how much expectations are on the floor now.
Meanwhile, Conte to Spurs and Emery to Newcastle means we might just have the worst coach out of all the bigger clubs in the league
This “United DNA” shite is an absolute myth and the quicker we move on from it the better.
If United DNA is playing cowardly clueless football then we are on track.
I fully expect us to miss out on top4 and end up sacking Ole at the end of the season. I don't think we'll get a new manager during the season if the board are dead set on one of Ten Hag, Poch, or Rodgers, whom I've listed in order of preference if it comes down to those 3.
The only possibility I can see that does not involve waiting until the end of the season is if Poch gets sacked for PSG bailing out of CL in the round of 16 or quarters.
The only possibility I can see that does not involve waiting until the end of the season is if Poch gets sacked for PSG bailing out of CL in the round of 16 or quarters.
So we're actually choosing to basically operate with a manager on a game by game basis but wouldn't pull the plug for one of the best current coaches in the world because they are only worried about the long term?
Does anyone else see how that doesn't make any sense? "Hey guys the long term only matters (that way we can always talk about the future and trick fans into thinking we care about winning) but our manager is hanging on by a thread depending on the outcome of each game"
Does anyone else see how that doesn't make any sense? "Hey guys the long term only matters (that way we can always talk about the future and trick fans into thinking we care about winning) but our manager is hanging on by a thread depending on the outcome of each game"
Does anyone seriously think we can get the 4th spot in the league this season?
This post needs to be pinned in the thread. Spot on.
The irony is I think one of Conte or Rodgers will end up pipping Ole to it. Its the least we deserve tbh. Extra marks if its Moyes
I'd say we have a 50% chance of it if Ole stays in charge. Because he's completely hands off in management it keeps certain players happy so if they go on a run of form at the right time we could finish top 4. That also allows us to go into awful runs of form, so it probably depends how long/when the two happen for the rest of the season. Also depends if Kane is actually just done with Spurs or if Conte can motivate him and the rest of the squad. Leicester/us/West Ham/Spurs/Arsenal will probably all occupy 4th at some point during the rest of the season, not sure who finishes there at the end.
Of course. Whatever the manifest limitations of Ole as a manager, the fact is that we have a squad crazy stacked with attacking talent, and that alone will win us plenty of games. If Spurs buy well in January and summer then next season could be a different story though.
I think we will. We have very good squad full of capable players to produce individual brilliance.
Especially now Ole revert back to defensive set up with 7 defensive players (probably 532) and in attacking third leave it to players like Ronaldo, Bruno, Cavani, Rashford, Greenwood and etc to produce their magic.
And we don't have other strong top 4 contender this season. Now, Conte is at Spurs and they may be the team to watch to challenge us for the last spot at Top 4.
Yeah 100% I think we will finish in it and quite comfortably too come end of season.
One thing I can't get my head around is how defeatist people are. Ole not been great at all this season managing the squad, been bad actually, but I'm pretty confident he get us in there. He has been solid enough in that regard, and has built a squad very capable, besides struggling with it this season,
Mad way everyone is now pretending he's the worse manager alive.
Not really. He basically started a near decade of dominance at Juventus which continued for years and years after his departure. There was nothing volatile about that. The volatility at Chelsea is overrated. One not so good summer where the club themselves signed B-grade players he didnt want (and nobody should want) and a stint that involved a league + FA cup. He didn't do them any damage and won them trophies. At Inter he gave them a league title after ages and left them in a position ready to win many league titles. If the ownership decided to sell their best players, that's not really him being volatile.
Winning consistently while being confrontational (SAF was confrontational) vs winning feck all and being everybody's friend. Only one winner (the guy who actually wins).
Probably, because we have a gross amount of quality talent at our disposal. If the players decide they want to play for the badge, that should be enough to pull them through, assuming the league stays the way it is. However, if (and he probably will) Conte improves Spurs to any tangible degree, we are in trouble.
Either way, anything we do will be despite Ole. He's shown in the past 3 years that he's pretty much a non-factor in our games as he provides nothing in the way of tactical setup, training prep nor motivation for the team. Quite easily in the bottom 3 managers in the PL quality-wise and yet he's managing the biggest club in the PL. We have fallen far and the day the club as a whole realize this, it will be too late to claw our way back up.
Most likely. We will win the "Avoided the Scum Conte" trophy.The irony is I think one of Conte or Rodgers will end up pipping Ole to it. Its the least we deserve tbh. Extra marks if its Moyes
So the common consensus is we are just hoping our attacking firepower somehow drags us to 75 pts.
No chance with ole in charge we've looked awful this season.
The poll percentages add up to 101.1%
Aaaaaahhhhhh…. The negativity…. Bathe in it. Revel in it.The irony is I think one of Conte or Rodgers will end up pipping Ole to it. Its the least we deserve tbh. Extra marks if its Moyes
I have switched to Ole out since the Leicester debacle, but I can’t support this kind of crap. People openly hoping we shit the bed vs Atalanta and City. The hyperbole in these posts is just alarming. Ole isn’t the long term solution for us, but I’d rather have him than half the managers in the league. Absolutely no nuance allowed here in the Caf. No gray area. You either are 100% for Ole or you are 100% for sacking him immediately and kicking him in the balls as he leaves.
If you want to call me a Top Red for injecting some common sense into this thread, so be it.
@peridigm nailed it I think.
Poch getting sacked is surely the only thing that’ll get us anything other than a Darren Fletcher caretaker mid-season now.
I really do feel like Conte was their last possibility of getting a manager mid-season. Brenton would feck Leicester off too I guess, just as he did Celtic but that’d be fecking depressing.
Better to hope our squad can make up for the shortcomings of the coaching team and give us an exciting season regardless, and that the club then have the foresight to bring in a new guy regardless. At this point I really don’t think there’s a single option that’ll excite if we lose tonight and get twatted by City so be careful what you wish for I guess
Poch getting sacked is surely the only thing that’ll get us anything other than a Darren Fletcher caretaker mid-season now.
I really do feel like Conte was their last possibility of getting a manager mid-season. Brenton would feck Leicester off too I guess, just as he did Celtic but that’d be fecking depressing.
Better to hope our squad can make up for the shortcomings of the coaching team and give us an exciting season regardless, and that the club then have the foresight to bring in a new guy regardless. At this point I really don’t think there’s a single option that’ll excite if we lose tonight and get twatted by City so be careful what you wish for I guess
Pretty much.
I just feel resigned that he's here for a while now. Not even upset about it, I'm almost beyond caring at this point. If the club doesn't care, why should I?
Says a fan who couldn’t wait til Moyes was sacked.
since Ole became manager of Man Utd
these clubs had
3 manager at Barcelona
3 managers at Real Madrid
3 managers at Tottenham
3 managers at Juventus
2 managers at Chelsea
2 managers at Munich
2 managers a Arsenal
2 managers at Inter Milan
1 manager at PSG
They won totally 27 titles
while Ole won zero.
these clubs had
3 manager at Barcelona
3 managers at Real Madrid
3 managers at Tottenham
3 managers at Juventus
2 managers at Chelsea
2 managers at Munich
2 managers a Arsenal
2 managers at Inter Milan
1 manager at PSG
They won totally 27 titles
while Ole won zero.
And we buy some of the worlds best players alongside producing them.
Same. I cancelled BT sport today because who cares. We aren’t winning the CL this season. I’ll stream it or listen to the radio. The football is crap and we’re going nowhere with Ole.
Literally we’ve only got the FA cup to play for this season.
We’ll beat City on Saturday and then lose to a Watford. That would be peak Ole.
Yes! Our squad is as good as any of the top clubs in the world, too many sentimental people are quick to find excuses.. ultimately, this all falls on the board and the Glazers, true they spend, but they don’t know how to run a football club, and us fans have to deal with their shortcomings.
Conte confirmed as Spurs manager so the field for a replacement has narrowed. Not sure who would come now if they do sack Ole. I would like ten Hag as he is Dutch and therefore will play good football. Also comes from a big club that have won the CL/European Cup four times so will understand the expectations and also won’t be carrying any ‘DNA’ baggage. Perhaps an interim manager until the summer as I can’t see Van der Sar letting him go mid season. I also have cancelled all my sports subscription to avoid the excessive drumming and noise at games plus the ‘punditry’ after each game. The pictures are better on the radio and I save £50 per month.
With Conte joining Spurs, that now means that all of the current managers at the traditional 'Top 6' clubs in the division, all have at least one of the following trophies on their managerial CV's:
- Champions League
- Premier League
- FA Cup
- League Cup
...oh apart from Ole!!
- Champions League
- Premier League
- FA Cup
- League Cup
...oh apart from Ole!!
Hey everyone, I've kept all my subscriptions and still plan on watching the matches and rooting for victories, crazy I know...
I mean this in the nicest possible way, football is not for you, it would be in your best interest to take a step back from United.........and realise you are doing the fan stuff the wrong way.
God forsake we are only in the FA cup apparently............I could just imagine how nearly every other Fan of all the other clubs in English football would be looking at your type and laughing at what you think it is to support a team
I love Ole. I love the few coaches who I'm familiar with but they are not up to it. Sorry. They're not good enough and may never be. Who would buy and own one of the nicest private jets you can buy but only hire a student rated pilot to fly it? Someone being paid billions to paint the plane with sponsorship logos and let it sit in a prime viewing spot?
Common sense
Any United fan talking about nuance after being smashed 5-0 in 50 minutes (could have been double figures if they kept going) at home by Liverpool and no trophy after 3 years of management is either deluded, a wum or a troll.
Absolutely ridiculous lack of standards and understanding of the level we should be competing at. You are exactly the reason why the Glazers can play around with United and feel they'd never catch any heat like at Barcelona or Real.
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