Never seen Nepotism like this at any club at any level. We all like to blame the non football people a lot but the football people are even a bigger problem at this club. From Sir Alex to Fletcher to ole to neville in the media, they all are part of this huge mess. Nepotism runs at this club to the very core where all of these people care about their mates more than the fans and club itself. We have seen one idiotic decision after another at this club for a long time based on favouritism and nepotism rather than merit. From appointing moyes to carrick to Fletcher to ole to playing favorites like mctom to criticising everyone but the English contingent. This whole nexus works like a machine where they take care of themselves whereas us fans are nothing but pawns who are only useful for romanticism and nostalgia to keep the status quo.
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I think they'll probably give it their all as they're professionals who will want to respond to getting battered by their bitter rivals. And I can see winning regardless of who the manager is. Spurs are crap and their talisman is struggling.
One thing is authority, the other is 'most of the squad' hate him.
But yeah great intuition you.
Biggest misconception of all is that Ole has built a great team. No, he hasn't. He bought a bunch of great players and that's about it. These players are not playing well as a team on the pitch and now apparently not doing so good off the pitch either.
Fully agreed. Now tbh, not to enthusiastic about Conte, but Ole needs to leave now
The way the club has handled it is beyond pathetic though. Complete silence for 24 hours, where they leave Ole in limbo, and completely strip him of any authority he might have had left, while the press is feasting on our misfortune...
And then they end up doing nothing
Are you serious?I said top squad. Not a functional team.
Great post and you’re exactly right, we’re clinging on to the past. By all means believe in the traditions and history of the club but that doesn’t mean everyone we appoint has to be part of the previous regime. In fact we don’t want that background noise, we need to hand the reins over properly.
He has great intuition.
Bust ups and hard words when things not going well is part of the game and life tbf. I deal with stuff like this in business from time to time. When you work in the high performance segments, it happens.
I have no worries about this what so ever. A new manager who has been in the game for some time will handle this with ease.
I have no worries about this what so ever. A new manager who has been in the game for some time will handle this with ease.
He is absolutely shocking. I think that in a year or so that will be the majority view of the fan base. Like with many other things, those on the outside can see that but we’re blinded by wanting him to be good. Shaw needs dropping for a long time as well, both has let us down massively this season - and will continue to do so. Their performances are some of the worst I’ve seen from starting defenders at this level.
Pretty sure there were similar stories doing the rounds with Lampard at Chelsea last season before he was sacked.
I said exactly the same, although I didn’t expect us to be so shit so fast. The juxtaposition between the quality of player against the clear lack of quality coaching and tactics has been awful to watch.
Call me crazy but I think he can turn it around and much of it is due to current situation at the club. He had a great World cup and after a lousy start last year he was pretty good.
Don’t be daft. Yes, his form has been shocking this season so far but he’s a very good player. His form is a mystery but there are factors which could explain that. Not quite over injury or just the product of the team environment right now, he’s not the only one on the team playing shit.
Clearly.
Try being in a football dressing room and giving the captain armband to an outsider from a lower level team.
It’s not his fault. It was just a poor collective decision from the staff.
He might recover. He might not. But DDG will have the armband rightfully soon.
Exactly. I didn't think we would be this shite but we seem to have regressed somehow.
Paul merson nailed it with his assessment - Maguire looks great in a back 5 but in a 4 he is exposed for his lack of pace and mobility, especially playing a high line. Nothing good will come of persisting with him, seriously. But he’s safe as anyone in that team.
He’s not. No way near the level we should be aspiring to. Lindelof and Varane are our best 2 CB’s. Just like with ole - stop making excuses for the string of abject performances, of which there will be many more to come.
This places opinion on Maguire changes like the wind
Not every CB has pace and is mobile but some are doing good regardless.
He's safe with Ole, wont be safe with a new manager but its silly just to give up on him, if a new manager will know how to use him he should be fine.
Paul Merson is the last guy I'd listen to on any matter.
Varane is our best CB.
Lindelof, he's good at making a pass I guess.
I’m pretty certain Maguire and Varane will be just fine. Maguire had a good season last year, one of our most consistent players but somethings not right currently I admit but then, look at the rest of the team also.
You think De Gea has authority?
Not the best captain material either.
Eh? How do you work that out?
Name a player who currently looks right, the whole squad looks disenchanted and at sea. Maguire and Shaw have noticeably gone down a few levels from last season, but they're not the only ones.
De Gea is arguably the only one who looks better than last season. Probably because he's got more to do.
De Gea is arguably the only one who looks better than last season. Probably because he's got more to do.
He will be taking it from Maguire. So not exactly a downgrade
He has respect. The team don’t respect this Leicester City player. It’s a forced admission like McTominay been seen as the managers Roy Keane.
I mean you can’t make it up. You can tell they seen John Terry, Gary Neville, Tony Adams all in Harry Maguire and that’s what made their decision. It was predictable.
G.Nev always gives us links from the club on sky. The last one was that Maguire and a few others were struggling to tame the squad with a few new egos added too.
It’s documented. Go look for it.
Selecting Maguire isn't the problem, the problem is selecting him when he is clearly not match fit when you have other CBs on the bench who have recently renewed their contracts.
One article I saw said that Bailly (rightfully) called him out in front of the squad for picking Maguire. Why bother selecting Bailly at all if you're going to pick unfit players ahead of him? Ole gets lauded as at keast being a good man manager but that is garbage too imo.
One article I saw said that Bailly (rightfully) called him out in front of the squad for picking Maguire. Why bother selecting Bailly at all if you're going to pick unfit players ahead of him? Ole gets lauded as at keast being a good man manager but that is garbage too imo.
This. Fecking insane singling out individuals at the minute, there’s clearly a shit storm going on behind the scenes. The whole squad looks lost and in that instance there is only one person to criticise objectively.
You give it to me.
For a guy who isn't in United dressing room, you sure know a lot. For instance that De Gea is respected and Maguire isn't.
This is fair. Not that I think Bailly is much better than a half fit Maguire, but that isn't really the point. Ole has shown a ridiculous dedication to picking unfit players throughout his time here.
I just told you Neville gave us insight. Not my fault I listen to things. Did you hear it?
No, I didnt.
He was shocking for most of last season. The Greece incident was blamed. I’ve given up on him until I see a serious upturn in form that lasts.
Hyperbole at its finest. No doubt the Greece incident had an effect at the start of the season but he came back from that and was largely excellent. To say he was shocking for most of the season is just wrong.
I imagine you’re the type who has a massive issue with Pogba’s lack of defensive discipline but is happy to forget Maguires performances the last couple of weeks. Injury, being overplayed, the Greece incident, there’s always an excuse for him. Before too long it should be a consideration that he’s not good enough.
I can believe the reports of players being upset that Ole sticks with out of form players and others don't get a look in. Hopefully the players aren't fighting amongst themselves too much though, would be a bit toxic for the next guy. Ole has brought it on himself though, his use of the squad is cowardly, if you think half the squad isn't good enough then you've done a shit job putting it together.
Okay. Chill then.
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