Ole Sack Watch

Should we replace the manager ?

  • Yes - Its time to make a change

    Votes: 3,004 87.8%

  • No - Give him more time

    Votes: 449 13.1%
  • Total voters
    3,423
  • Poll closed .
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The players will be surely laughing at this whole situation.
 
El Zoido said:
He’s still going to sacked, he’s just not going to be sacked right this minute, seemingly. I don’t quite get the mouth-frothing anger over this delaying of the inevitable. Can only hope the club is taking the time to line up a replacement.
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This basically.

Everyone's worked up about the Pool defeat, calling for blood. We should be thinking about the next 3 years not what would happen in the next 3 games. Not listening to the mob and making good decisions is the reason the board exists.

We're in the situation we're in now because we awarded Ole the contract too early. Let's not make the same mistake again.

Hopefully he can turn it around and get buy in from the players. Another two losses and it's impossible to not sack him, replacement lined up or not.
 
SuperiorXI said:
Martin Edwards now as well, he's not on the board?
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He is an honorary life president. No idea why on Earth he is there. I mean, like Fergie he is close to 80 now, and has been detached from football for 20 years. What has he got to offer?
 
HerbT said:
I humbly point to the fact that we’ve been expected to muller you in every derby for the last few years, but you’ve done very well against us.
It seems to me that Ole’s got Pep sussed and I don’t see that being different in the 12:30 kick off on the 6th of November where I anticipate you playing a low block and counter attacking with hoof ball.
That kind of game fits well with the strengths of your squad and your problem v the dippers was that you tried to press but were pretty damn useless at it with Ronaldo only breaking sweat once in 90 minutes, to assault a player on the deck.
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We've been very good against you over last few seasons but think the time has come for you to beat us again, in a style similar to those two wins at OT in Carabao Cup semis. The whole atmosphere around the team is as bad as it gets probably, hard to expect United beating Spurs, let alone City.
 
Does anyone think if he pulls a couple of results out of the bag he will survive? or has the damage been done?
 
Revan said:
He is an honorary life president. No idea why on Earth he is there. I mean, like Fergie he is close to 80 now, and has been detached from football for 20 years. What has he got to offer?
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No idea... I wish Fergie just enjoyed his retirement and stayed out of this.
 
The White Pele said:
That’s not the criteria though. There’s no point just getting any manager that we believe is better than Ole. The goal is to challenge for, and eventually win a league title. So we need somebody of the required standard to do that.

If any manager on the list is better than Ole do you care to venture some names?

And if they’re not available now and like you say we decide to bring in an interim, can you put forward any reasonable candidates?

Because if there aren’t the right candidates available then it absolutely does change the thinking on sacking Ole right now.
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I don't know if you are dense or in denial. But I will humour you.

I never said we should appoint anyone, only that anyone on the list will still be an improvement on Ole. Let's not play semantics.

As for interim managers...

  1. What is Blanc doing now?
  2. Where is Hiddink?
  3. Rednapp for a couple of months.
  4. Fonseca is being discussed at Newcastle, he could do a job until the summer.

We are talking interim here, they don't need to be a world-beater, infact you don't want them to be. Someone to come in, achieve par and get us to the summer. Their purpose is to replace the current regime and hold hard till the summer achieving top 4, shouldn't be difficult with our squad.

As for permanent managers. I would go for an interim now and Ten Hag in the summer. We could go for Conte now who would be a big change in style but has always been successful.

I do feel we need to move away from the past and in that respect Conte could be good. I'm hearing SAF has been at Carrington this morning giving a speech, at this point Ole is a puppet and manager in name only.
 
SuperiorXI said:
I'm hearing about Fergie, Gill and splits in the board room... WHO is in charge at this club? WHO is going to make the decisions? It's all over the place... why are the owners influenced so much? Just make your own fecking decisions, you are the owners.

Sounds like a house of commons type meeting is going on. Should we invite the Class of 92 as well?
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I think Joel Glazer has the actual final say/authority.

But your point still remains - it’s a clusterfeck.
 
Ole is getting his dad to stand up for him.

These are really some of the most embarrassing moments for the club.
 
El Zoido said:
I definitely think Ole has done a better job with it. His hit rate is high, he just doesn’t know how to manage them at this level. God knows what Jose would have done if given free reign. A better manager will get a really high level of performance out of this squad. In fact, the main reason Ole has done this well, is that the players have dragged the results through.
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James : failed.
AWB : a lot of fans are split on him.
Maguire : a lot of fans are split on him.
Bruno : success.
Cavani : success.
VDB : rotting on the bench.
Telles : rotting on the bench.
Sancho : on the bench, has been a flop so far.
Varane : good.
Ronaldo : a lot of fans are split on him.

With all the talk about his transfers as if they are some sort of a miracle in comparison to previous managers, only 3 of them have been definitive success so far. The rest either failed or a lot ot fans are split on them if they are good or not.
 
Its all a bit weird. SAF going down to the training ground.
Can imagine SAF speaking to the squad with Ole standing behind him, poking his head around him every so often saying "listen to the gaffer"
 
More than anything, it is just so depressing to see how the club is run. And right now, we actually have an incredible squad (in my opinion) but we all just have to watch it get squandered. Our main 3 rivals have 3 of the top managers in the world (you could make a case they have the top 3) while we just have no clue and no plan. It's clear that after 8 years of terrible decision making regarding coaches, upper management has learned absolutely nothing.
 
Not sure what signals this sends the players if Fergie has to “protect” the manager in front of them. I’ll lose respect in my manager if he cannot stand up for himself and motivate his own team.
 
People should relax.
The board are not giving Ole three games to save his job. They have given themselves three games to get a replacement.
He will be sacked soon.
 
pseudo_canadian said:
I think Joel Glazer has the actual final say/authority.

But your point still remains - it’s a clusterfeck.
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This is correct. Joel has the final say (although technically, Avram has the same power of him, but Joel seems to be the real one in charge). The question is who will he listen, and/or does he have an opinion of his own? Hard to think yes for the later considering that he admitted to struggle understanding the offside rule.
 
Highfather_24 said:
I think going from Ole to Ten Hag is a bigger jump(style wise), than Conte to Ten Hag. While Conte is not the most attack minded or defense minded coach(somewhere in between), what he offers is a solid tactical foundation, our team will be very well drilled, there will be noticeable patters of play attack wise, and he wins stuff. I think he is the best among the available options.

I would also prefer an attack minded coach, who is also a winner, who will also get us instant success with this squad, while also being able to handle big egos and has worked at a big club before.

But does that manager exist/mildly attainable? Conte atleast fits four of those five boxes. Who would you get?
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Conte is certainly on the defensive end of the spectrum. He'll no doubt solidify the team and provide a tactical foundation, but I don't believe that would be the kind of tactical foundation the fans of this club want to see. I don't think he will utilise the players we currently have very well either. We're a top-heavy squad, and he's a manager who prefers bottom-heavy formations

And you say he wins stuff, will he? He's not going to stay here long due to his tendency to having hissy fits and walking after a couple of years, and I really don't see him overcoming Klopp, Pep, or Tuchel in that time.
 
Freak said:
Not sure what signals this sends the players if Fergie has to “protect” the manager in front of them. I’ll lose respect in my manager if he cannot stand up for himself and motivate his own team.
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He’s already been asking them how to fix his own problems so it’s clear they’ll have zero respect for him as a manager.
 
el3mel said:
James : failed.
AWB : a lot of fans are split on him.
Maguire : a lot of fans are split on him.
Bruno : success.
Cavani : success.
VDB : rotting on the bench.
Telles : rotting on the bench.
Sancho : on the bench, has been a flop so far.
Varane : good.
Ronaldo : a lot of fans are split on him.

With all the talk about his transfers as if they are some sort of a miracle in comparison to previous managers, only 3 of them have been definitive success so far. The rest either failed or a lot ot fans are split on them if they are good or not.
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+Amad, Heaton, Pellstri, Bishop.
 
Ole looks like a kid who doesnt know what to do without his grandad in this whole situation. If I wouldnt laugh I'd cry.
 
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