There's no point in going to for Poch if we have a manager that is doing everything we want him to do. Even if Solskjaer has a blip, I'd rather we supported him and threw money at the problem instead of asking the question "Does this manager really understand what we're about? Can we trust his judgement?". With Ole we remove that doubt completely. With Poch we'd be asking ourselves if he's a bottler and why hasn't he won anything. It's a no brainer for me.
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Neither played with the same attacking verve though. Jose got a few 4-0s and 4-1s but it didn't feel the same. And Moyes started with the champions, so shouldn't be part of any conversation about this!
Hate to bring this up because I want Ole to succeed more than I could possibly express in words, but how much of the recent upsurge in performance squad-wide can we attribute to the new manager bounce, if at all?
Ye, I like poch and even though he is praised for being a gentleman and loyal to a degree I just have this feeling that he will want the Real Madrid job one day. I can't see why Ole can't be our poch. With help from phelan, SAF, and many other experienced people the first couple of years, I think he will do well. He loves the club and it seems that for him it is the biggest job.
3 points and 3 goals to overtake Arsenal now.
This graph says it all!
People might say it was 3 easy games, but we could barely keep in even positive goal difference when we've had 3 winnable games on the bounce earlier.
There's no way Jose would have had us winning these three games with a +9 GD!
It’s been discussed a million times already, but when I was watching the pre game interview Ole said “we have a bigger and better squad than most teams in the league”
It was such a simple comment that he probably didn’t even think about it, yet it was such a stark contrast from “Everton have very ambitious owners who have spent a lot of money”
You probably need to put more effort in to constantly denigrate your team than to just be positive about them. I’m so happy to see Ole and not have to look at Mourinho’s smug, stupid face anymore. His face makes me imagine a skin infection.
It was such a simple comment that he probably didn’t even think about it, yet it was such a stark contrast from “Everton have very ambitious owners who have spent a lot of money”
You probably need to put more effort in to constantly denigrate your team than to just be positive about them. I’m so happy to see Ole and not have to look at Mourinho’s smug, stupid face anymore. His face makes me imagine a skin infection.
I'd cry to sleep if United brought Conte anywhere near United.
Hearing “Ole Ole” ring around OT after a goal is honestly unbelievable. Be interesting to see how we get on against Spurs but so far so good for Solskjaer, football on show has been a delight to behold.
Loving it. I know there’s harder test to come but to finally see attacking football again is incredible. He’s a club legend who loves the place and knows the ‘United Way’ I hope it goes well for Ole and he gets the job full time.
Under Jose it felt like we never had a chance no matter who we signed but suddenly I’m starting to drool at the thought of a couple more technical players in this side along with a world class CB.....I’m starting to enjoy football again!
May not even be a bounce as much as we’d think. Carrick and McKenna have been there a while already. Add in Phelan and we’ve got a fantastic staff that has both ethos and experience. Ole will only get better too I believe.
A lot of credit has to go to Mike Phelan too. I don't think anyone should underestimate what he brings as an assistant. We seem to do pretty well whenever he's around.
That was exactly my line of thought when I heard that interview. Losing or getting bored doesn't even enter my mind now Ole is managing. I look forward to watching United again.
Yes, this would be ridiculous, and we may as well have kept Mourinho!
I also like Solskjaer for you.
Seeing that the rest of the top Premier teams are so "Europeanized", it is refreshing that you bet on him. Although on the other hand, I think that any coach with a positive attitude could get good results, mainly because of the desire of the players to prove their worth after Mourinho, and because you had already hit rock bottom.
I am a neutral and should not affect me, but just thinking about the umpteenth reconstruction, reading three years of justifications, scares me. As Sultan has just said, I would opt for a more relaxed model, without embarking again on a project with a super coach and his thousand demands.
Same age as fergie when he took over. Would be nice to get some more longevity and long term planning again
Let’s hope for 4/4 against Newcastle. I’m loving it!
Let’s hope for 4/4 against Newcastle. I’m loving it!
Doing a fine job so far.
Keep it up Ole.
Keep it up Ole.
4/5 please, Geebs.
His press conferences are an absolute joy.
It's like he's studied everything Mourinho used to say and is now saying the exact opposite.
Humble and positive.
It's like he's studied everything Mourinho used to say and is now saying the exact opposite.
Humble and positive.
New manager bounce or otherwise, the players clearly have the ability to perform as a top outfit based on the evidence provided over the last couple of weeks.
I was more than prepared for a relegation battle when Ole took charge, but he has taken to the role like a duck to water. It's hard to believe how well he has done.
One point I never see mentioned is that Poch is a very “strict” manager with a lot of rules and what not.. I thought this was the reason Real Madrid stayed away and the same reason we should. Big clubs needs managers that can handle big ego’s. Last thing we need now is a authoritarian manager who have never won anything coming in. We have all ready found our manager imho.
Doing a wonderful job.
But don't think we should discount the 'new manager bounce'...
I'd still like to see Pochettino / Zidane brought in in Summer with Ole leaving on a high and returning at some point in the future.
But don't think we should discount the 'new manager bounce'...
I'd still like to see Pochettino / Zidane brought in in Summer with Ole leaving on a high and returning at some point in the future.
Haha sorry I meant 4 out of 4, 100% record
He for sure adds himself on our shortlist if he keeps this kind of performance up
Doing a good job so far. He had a chance to leave as a player but didn't so he can talk about loyalty and he can empathize with players fighting for places and he has the perfect example of someone coming off the bench and making a difference. He watched the game when he used to be on the bench rather then listen to music or sulk. He's managed our youth in the past. He's been a forward coach. He ticks a lot of boxes. Don't underestimate the feel good factor. These players are not magically better. We're just more positive and even if you question our opponents, we've struggled against these types of teams for a very long time. There are bigger challenges but half the games in the head and we're in a far better place. In addition to that, if Ole gets the best out of the forwards...then I think that's something we need to protect from too much change. Finally we are enjoying it. We will lose games in all probability but you have to know who you are better then and with that why should you fear them? It's as much attitude as anything. How we bounce back from a loss or criticism is still to come but our response to the sending off suggests the players are on board mentality with what's expected. As a supporter, we can dream about this or that player but what we see now has made a lot of supporters happy! And now we are all wondering, can Sanchez finally deliver? And if he does, how much better does that make us?...
One game at a time though However, if you have a happy camp at the end of the season - do you really unsettle it again?? We got a big decision to make (with all due respect to Molde).
One game at a time though
However, if you have a happy camp at the end of the season - do you really unsettle it again?? We got a big decision to make (with all due respect to Molde).Regardless of whether he gets the Utd job full time, you know have to start wondering whether he will ever return to Molde given how he is well and truly back in the shop window again...
thIt is early days and he can only beat whats in front of him. The games are also ideal in the way they have dropped. We played the worst, then the next worst, then a bit trickier, next a low mid table team im a toxic environment, then a top 3 team away. Even if we lose to Spurs but go out fighting and at least scoring, he is still on the right path. If Ole could win the FA cup finish at least 5th, hopefully 4th, then surely the club should give him a chance. even if its a 2 year contract. Same to Phelan as well.
Reckon Phelan has also made a big difference too. He knows how to work with players at this club and he strikes me as very level headed.
If ole beats 3 of the 5 big teams in the second half of the season, I'll definitely want him to be our manager for the years ahead.
I think most people forget ole has had something like 400 games as a manager. who knows how this will end in 6 months but there are lots of similarities between the way ole's Molde fk play and now United, of course at a higher level. Not really a surprise these players (defence not good enough for attacking or defensive football) are looking better under a manager who wants to play attacking football, they might not be world beaters but they're certainly not as bad as jose's tactics made them out to be. IMO jose would have done brilliant here if he actually knew how to coach attacking players but he didn't have a clue.
I do understand this concern, but Jesus - it's a hell of a bounce.
It's not just the winning or even the amount of goals we score, its the Fergie-era style of play that is knocking my socks off
I'll be fine if we're just very competitive in big games and didn't look like we're getting destroyed. Anything can happen in big games, just be competitive and do your best.
He's doing a fantastic job so far, not getting carried away though,lets see how it is at the end of the season
I love Ole.
Even if our season goes to shit, nothing will change my love and respect for that glorious man.
Even if our season goes to shit, nothing will change my love and respect for that glorious man.
We just need to keep all options open for the summer, and maybe Ole doesn't even want it long term, but for now I'm just grateful to be watching football I can relate Untied to once again.
Writing history already.
Our play has tangibly changed under Ole. We build more from the back, our fullbacks bomb up the wing and hug the touchlines in the opposition 3rd, we defend by attacking (possibly because our defending is still problematic), we take chances, our midfielders bomb into the box more frequently, our fulbacks overlap a lot more with our "wingers", we take more chances, and overall we have a much more attack-minded system. Even our centerbacks are encouraged to carry the ball through midfield where the opportunity and ability will allow.
We are no longer a team that tries to minimize mistakes and stick to pragmatism to win games.
A lot of this is down to the philosophy and changes Ole is beginning to instill in the team.
We are no longer a team that tries to minimize mistakes and stick to pragmatism to win games.
A lot of this is down to the philosophy and changes Ole is beginning to instill in the team.
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He's using the squad strengths to win the games. Fast play with quick interchanging making it a nightmare with our pace.
The good thing for us is we also have Sanchez as a backup (or starter). The above style is the exact style he thrives in.
My only worry about OGS is how he will fare in big games against the top 6. I fear with playing risky attacking football we'll easily concede against more quality attacking sides. I could be wrong but it is a big worry, especially with our shite CBs.
The good thing for us is we also have Sanchez as a backup (or starter). The above style is the exact style he thrives in.
My only worry about OGS is how he will fare in big games against the top 6. I fear with playing risky attacking football we'll easily concede against more quality attacking sides. I could be wrong but it is a big worry, especially with our shite CBs.