Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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Mourinho used to call Sir Alex "the Boss" and for all Mourinho's faults I dont think you can accuse him of not having a massive ego. Fergie is the gaffer.
 
I like that Ole has given us that ‘us v them’ mentality - in a positive way - in that he always says we’re Manchester United, we’re doing this, we’re doing that.

Going by the recent articles, and many written since he’s taken charge to be fair, he really has transformed the whole feeling around the whole club, inside and out. I’ve no doubt that he’ll get the job full time but the board will stick to their original plan of announcing it in the summer. I don’t think they want to distract Ole with any contract talks from the job at hand, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s had some assurances about next season given the job he’s done.

My only concern about the club moving forward would be the DoF appointment. I wouldn’t want us to just employ someone who likes a similar style to Ole, I’d like it to be someone in the same mould - humble, working to the same goal, an affinity with the club - who genuinely wants the best for the club. Ole clearly has a preferred style of play that excites the fans and I hope that the two could form a great working relationship.
 
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I think the point is that spurs are in the title race despite spending a pittance compared us, pool and man city. Even with their best players out they are still progressing and getting results in the pl and cl. Im still on the ole train, but obviously poch can get his team performing without having s blank check that pep and mourinho insist on to be competetive
 
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As important as Ole is, just as important is Phelan.
He gives that experienced view. I think he certainly has a hand in improving our defence.

Currently we have the complete staffing in place.
With a few players coming in, we will be ready to take on the League and Europe.
 
As important as Ole is, just as important is Phelan.
He gives that experienced view. I think he certainly has a hand in improving our defence.

Currently we have the complete staffing in place.
With a few players coming in, we will be ready to take on the League and Europe.

We should make a deal with everyone in the current staff. This is a really good setup.
 
Carrick and McKenna wont be going anywhere.
I don't know if Phelan has any other commitments.

But I doubt he will go anywhere if Ole and Fergie have a word with him.

Phelan has other commitments, but I agree with you. He would probably stay as well.
 
I had to look up what Blanco does.
Goalkeeping coach. He was a Mourinho appointment looks like. But he must be getting the job done if he has been retained.

De Gea has taken a liking to him, had his best season ever under him last season so I can understand why.
 
As important as Ole is, just as important is Phelan.
He gives that experienced view. I think he certainly has a hand in improving our defence.

Currently we have the complete staffing in place.
With a few players coming in, we will be ready to take on the League and Europe.
How on earth did we let Moyes get rid of him?
 
De Gea has taken a liking to him, had his best season ever under him last season so I can understand why.

I think everyone likes him. He is really happy when we score. I think he makes a good fit for our club. Looks like a good guy and must be very good with DDG.
 
As important as Ole is, just as important is Phelan.
He gives that experienced view. I think he certainly has a hand in improving our defence.

Currently we have the complete staffing in place.
With a few players coming in, we will be ready to take on the League and Europe.

I wonder what he'll do, he was working as an athletic director at some university in Australia and they put out a statement suggesting he is committed to returning to them. If his job at United is tied to Ole or not is fascinating to see.
 
I wonder what he'll do, he was working as an athletic director at some university in Australia and they put out a statement suggesting he is committed to returning to them. If his job at United is tied to Ole or not is fascinating to see.

contracts can be bought out. Doubt it will be a crucial as a manager's job.
Sure he will want to be Manchester United Assistant Manager though.
 
I had to look up what Blanco does.
Goalkeeping coach. He was a Mourinho appointment looks like. But he must be getting the job done if he has been retained.
Silvino Louro was Mourinho's goalkeeping coach. Emilio was the understudy, and now the main guy.
 
Silvino Louro was Mourinho's goalkeeping coach. Emilio was the understudy, and now the main guy.

Emilio Alvarez was De Gea's former goalkeeping coach, he was brought to please him.
 
Rashford explains the success and praises Ole:

"For me, it's been a massive help having that type of guidance around me.
"But he's been working with all of the players with everything he's got, you can see even the defenders are improving, the midfield is improving, the team's improved overall but we understand we can still take more steps forward.

"He has that know-how, the understanding, that's the kind of thing you just pick off naturally off these type of people.

“Even not just out on the pitch, having conversations about it, it all adds up.

“It's been a big turnaround. As long as we keep improving I don't see why [he shouldn't get the job permanently]."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Gunnar-Solskjaer-Jose-Mourinho-Premier-League
 
King Eric was asked if he prefers Ole or Poch. Guess what his reply was :)
 
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Rashford explains the success and praises Ole:

"For me, it's been a massive help having that type of guidance around me.
"But he's been working with all of the players with everything he's got, you can see even the defenders are improving, the midfield is improving, the team's improved overall but we understand we can still take more steps forward.

"He has that know-how, the understanding, that's the kind of thing you just pick off naturally off these type of people.

“Even not just out on the pitch, having conversations about it, it all adds up.

“It's been a big turnaround. As long as we keep improving I don't see why [he shouldn't get the job permanently]."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Gunnar-Solskjaer-Jose-Mourinho-Premier-League
Rashford explains the success and praises Ole:

"For me, it's been a massive help having that type of guidance around me.
"But he's been working with all of the players with everything he's got, you can see even the defenders are improving, the midfield is improving, the team's improved overall but we understand we can still take more steps forward.

"He has that know-how, the understanding, that's the kind of thing you just pick off naturally off these type of people.

“Even not just out on the pitch, having conversations about it, it all adds up.

“It's been a big turnaround. As long as we keep improving I don't see why [he shouldn't get the job permanently]."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...Gunnar-Solskjaer-Jose-Mourinho-Premier-League

Luke Shaw about Ole:

"It’s just amazing to look at the job Ole has done since he came in,” added Shaw. "“How much he has turned it around and how much the place is in a positive way now."
”You know, Ole does it at the right time [shows another side to him]. He knows how good we can be and, if we’re not up to his standards or the standards of Manchester United, he will certainly let you know.

”We’ve had a few moments like that where we might have been comfortable in a game but got a bit sloppy. He’s the manager and he tells the players what he wants. It’s good and what we need sometimes, a kick up the backside from the manager, if we’re getting too comfortable.

”It keeps everyone on their toes but he’s an amazing guy and a brilliant manager.”


https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...-gunnar-solskjaer-will-not-let-standards-slip
 
At this point I'm probably 60-40 in favour of Poch.

Huge credit to Ole because only a month or so ago I was 100% Poch. Come the end of the season I'll probably end up favouring Ole, but I'd be happy with either, tbh.
 
Since we're acknowledging Phelan's role in Ole's success so far, perhaps same should be done for Pochettino's assistant as well.
 
Since we're acknowledging Phelan's role in Ole's success so far, perhaps same should be done for Pochettino's assistant as well.

We are not going to hire Poch. That sail has gone. Ole will be the permanent manager. You dont change a winning team.
 
We are not going to hire Poch. That sail has gone. Ole will be the permanent manager. You dont change a winning team.
Poch capsized today and confirms he is a top 4 manager and not a real candidate for ever winning the prem.
Ole is the real deal. He will get the job and even win the prem next year.
 
You should post this in the Poch thread so it doesn't get lost bud, people who support Poch will just post on and bury your post in the back pages while their posts will be the most recent

You clearly spent the time with this post bud, so it's worth ensuring it doesn't get lost as people will argue walls of text over a fraction of the info you posted

Thanks. I only did it because I was pissed with @Amadeus. I'm not sure I care enough to do anything else now I've got it off my chest
 
This is extremely unfair on a lot of posters here. Just because people point out caveats to our good performances, doesn't mean they don't want Ole as a manager, or want someone else.

I have been accused of being an "Ole basher" and a "Poch lover" on here for no reason other than that I've wanted to wait at least 3 months before deciding if I'm 100% behind Ole as a permeant manager over other candidates. People are so quick to box others into the Ole camp or Poch camp, and are seemingly never allowed to say: "I'd like more time before making my decision".

Our start was amazing, no doubt. But we were riding a wave of positivity, and anyone who denies that is kidding themselves. It was perfectly reasonable to be cautious then; look at Sarri's first 2 months at Chelsea, compared to where he is now!

Spurs was the first big test, and we did pass it. Ole won the tactical battle in the first half. But Spurs changed it up in the second, and lets be honest, they were very lucky not to get a point. At this stage, it was perfectly reasonable to be cautious.

Arsenal was an amazing result. I really didn't have anything negative to say about it. Lukaku was man of the match! The problem is that our last 2 managers, who have been widely critized on here, both won at Arsenal in almost exactly the same way. So forgive me if remain cautious at this stage.

Then came 3 more league games: a 2-2 fight-back against Burnely, a tight, 1-0 win against Leicester, and a comfortable 3-0 win against Swansea. The Burnley result showed a lot of character, and it was great to see us come back from a losing position for the first time under Ole. But many forgot we had the EXACT SAME result against Burnley at home last season: 2-0 down at half time, before coming back to rescue a point. So there wasn't really anything new here. The Leicester and Fulham performances were very impressive: the former a very difficult game where we produced a professional performance, the latter a comfortable victory where we probably could have scored more.

The PSG game was our first defeat. A weakened team, but still a quality one. And we actually started really well; if Martial and Lingard had stayed on the pitch I genuinely believe we could have won that game. However when we lost them, Ole didn't change our approach, even though we all could see we didn't have the players to play the same game anymore. And we got beaten. It may sound strange, but I was excited after that game. I have said from the start I want to see how Ole responds to a bad result, and I was excited to see whether we would bounce back. And boy, did we. An emphatic performance against Chelsea, who despite their poor form, started the game really well. But it's also worth remembering that their fans turned on them in the second half, and the atmosphere became toxic for them to play in. We defended well, and Chelsea's performance level dipped.

Notice throughout this, I've only actually criticised Ole once; for the PSG game. In all the other cases, I haven't criticised him at all. Your suggestion that people say "X result doesn't count because of reason Y" is a gross mischaracterisation of most people's comments, which can better be stated as "X was a great result, but we should also remember Y". Looking at results without their proper context is irrational, and you shouldn't criticise those who take a measured and balanced approach to their analysis of our performances.


All this sounds very logical and reasonable. Problem is - it downplays our results and performances.

You need to be on top of your own game to take advantage of other teams weaknesses/ off field issues. Ole has done that. You think Chelsea atmosphere would have been toxic if they scored first?

Anyway - I'm enjoying United (for the first time after SAF) being in the news for the right reasons. No more boardroom issues, toxic conferences, football heritage, philosophy (TM), underdogs etc. etc.

Coupled with attacking - fast paced - one touch football. :drool:
 
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer says Man Utd must not end up like Liverpool

Solskjaer jokes: "I have Liverpool fans in Norway and every year is going to be their year. It has got to October and it's: 'OK, next year.'"

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has warned Manchester United they must not go years without winning the Premier League title like Liverpool.

United have not won the league since Sir Alex Ferguson left the club in 2013, coming closest under Jose Mourinho last season as they finished a distant second behind Manchester City.

Liverpool, meanwhile, have not lifted the league title since 1990 and, with 12 games to go, are level on points with leaders City, plus they have a game in hand.

United host Liverpool on Sunday, live on Sky Sports Premier League with kick-off at 2.05pm, and Solskjaer anticipates the 29-year wait for the title will be weighing heavy on their minds.

United caretaker boss Solskjaer said: "Of course they do feel that pressure. I think all the supporters do and players probably do as well.

"But then we have not won it for a few years and so we want to get back to that. We have to make sure that we don't end up being happy being among the top four.

"If you aim too low and reach your target, then that's more dangerous than aiming too high and missing them.

"It is difficult to win the league here. It is probably the toughest league to win and when you look at it, there are only five or six teams that have won the Premier League. Leicester did it - which was a miracle - before that Blackburn did it, but then there was a few big clubs that have won it."

Solskjaer said it was too early for mind games with Liverpool counterpart Jurgen Klopp on Friday, but could not resist taking a cheeky dig at Sunday's opponents.

He said: "I have loads of Liverpool fans back home and every year is going to be their year. It has got to October and it's: 'OK, next year.'

"Now they are in the race so for them, it is going to be an exciting finish to the league. That is none of our concern. We just have to concentrate on ourselves."

https://www.skysports.com/football/...r-says-man-utd-must-not-end-up-like-liverpool



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I agree that we should wait till the end of the season.

We should stop using 13 matches as a sample size for Ole at United and many years for Poch at Spurs.

Ole's sample size at United is 13 matches ,while Poch's sample size at United is zero, no two scenarios are the same, LVG and Mourinho were successful elsewhere but failed at United. It's wishful thinking that since Poch. is succeeding at Spurs he will succeed at United.

At least we have seen what Ole's United is/will look like(and most of us like it), we don't know what Poch's United will look like.
I feel like this is glossed over too much. It seems like in most of these debates Poch gets the benefit of starting off as some sort of 10/10 top manager which he hasn’t really earned and Ole somehow needs to prove perfection in every aspect of management to reach his level. Ole has shown what a United under him looks like and it’s most fans dream scenario. It would be a way bigger risk at this point to see what United under Poch would look like because we don’t know and there’s any number of reasons it could be worse. At this point it would almost certainly be since United under Ole has been near perfect.
 
I remember back, a guy was talking about how detailed and accurate the game FM was in its predictions and simulations. Right at that time a few articles was written about how Ole studied the game as a substitute, and how he studied SAF before taking his badges as a coach. I always truly believed he would become our manager and sort of a SAF regen:lol: It is such a fantasy based mindset, but it has some legs because of the fact almost all managers are former players. Anyways, Ole obviously always had the dream and when Moyes got the job he probably realised the long road ahead of him and thought feck it, I'll build my own and he went to Cardiff. That went horrible, and he went back to Molde where he stayed. I had faith right up to the point it became obvious he would stay at Molde rather than trying to manage a bigger club in Europe.

So from 2004-2015 I truly believed he would become our manager, before realising and learning how stupid it is to have those weird predictions. Ole could never be the manager for Man Utd, right? I have to admit I am super annoyed at myself for not betting some money on it. I would probably be rich:devil: