Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

Is Ole a good appointment?


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If we look at timelines, the work to appoint a Permanent manager must be well on the way already.
We are 3 months from the season end. Pre-Season needs to be planned. Players coming in and contract extensions must be planned right now.
Contract of the identifield manager must be bought out.
In that aspect there may well be substance to this reporting.

Molde will be a much simpler board to negotiate with.

Personally I hope the reports are true.
 
Yep. The showing at PSG was like the second half of Spurs and Leicester where we ran out of ideas and hung on....except that PSG scored. Not denying he's been a brilliant caretaker manager, but so far, that's all he's been.



If he loses those games because of injuries and lack of personnel, no-one will hold it against him. But if he loses because he is outwitted tactically like he was in the second half against Spurs and in the PSG game (injuries not withstanding), I reckon he shouldn't get the job.

Nobody worries about losing, but there's a way to lose. Sevilla and PSG aren't it (though the latter isn't as disgraceful as the former). His comment about individual quality winning games as opposed to in-game tactics also worried me.
He has just been a brilliant caretaker...what's the difference between that and a full-time manager? Do you think any full-time manager would have the win ratio he has??? "Pssst it's the best form in the league, superior to all the other managers"
What if I told you, you don't have to dominate every minute of every game.....
 
Ole being our permanent manager is a logical certainty. We’ll announce it at the end of the season. Hopefully we can reach top four, continue to play attacking football and plan ahead with regards to incomings and outgoings.

Give him a few players (centre half and a right winger being two of them) and build around the attacking instincts of Martial, Rashford and Pogba and we will be in a good position to go into next season.

I’m all aboard.
 
He has just been a brilliant caretaker...what's the difference between that and a full-time manager? Do you think any full-time manager would have the win ratio he has??? "Pssst it's the best form in the league, superior to all the other managers"
What if I told you, you don't have to dominate every minute of every game.....

Relax, I like Ole and I won't mind him getting the permanent job, though I would be equally happy if Poch gets it as I believe personally that he is the superior manager in this moment. But this forum has become awfully sensitive at the slightest criticism of Ole. While it is because of his admittedly superb start, it shouldn't define how we judge him in every game.
 
Relax, I like Ole and I won't mind him getting the permanent job, though I would be equally happy if Poch gets it as I believe personally that he is the superior manager in this moment. But this forum has become awfully sensitive at the slightest criticism of Ole. While it is because of his admittedly superb start, it shouldn't define how we judge him in every game.
To be fair I was just trying to be funny. In all honesty Poch is the sensible choice as he is the better manager in almost all aspects of management or atleast has demonstrated so. As I have pretty much given up on the Poch dream, I am already mentally preparing for Ole as anyone else would present a bigger risk, which sounds crazy when you think he is just a surprise caretaker in the first instance
 
Relax, I like Ole and I won't mind him getting the permanent job, though I would be equally happy if Poch gets it as I believe personally that he is the superior manager in this moment. But this forum has become awfully sensitive at the slightest criticism of Ole. While it is because of his admittedly superb start, it shouldn't define how we judge him in every game.

Poch would offer absolutely nothing more than what Ole did so far and would have lost to PSG in similar fashion or even worse too. The only thing Poch is superior at is experience, something Ole will gain by time.

I can't get my head about any reason to pay 40m to get Poch while we all know what he's going to offer will be nothing more than Ole so far, top 4 and KO stages in CL.

I'll prefer to stick with Ole then and endure some losses. Also Ole has a big advantage of getting the full support of fans. They'll be all behind him unlike any other foreign manager who will bring division again and some will take his side and others will take the board's one when the results go south. With Ole all the fans will be united behind him.
 
I agreed with you, the stats said that DDG make 16 saves, yes, 16 saves. Would have lost that game if DDG wasn't our GK.

Yeah but he is.

If Messi didn't play for Barcelona they probably wouldn't be win as many games, we are allowed to have a good goalkeeper. People seem to forget that Ole has walked into a struggling team and has only had a few weeks to get his ideas across. He has been incredible and whilst he might not be the best manager out there I have a suspicion that he may be the best manager for us, maybe there is a reason that Barcelona rarely go for the biggest name super manager and stick with people who either have ties with the club or identify with the Barcelona ethos.
 
He was found out yesterday. Jose would have beaten PSG or at least get us a draw. We beat Juventus on away goals and Juventus is regarded as a better team than PSG. Absolute disgrace we just capitalated.
This is one of the most baseless comments I've read on RedCafe.

We would have gone out eventually to PSG under Mourinho, even if we bored the world to sneak a 0-0 draw at home. Jose got beaten by Juve at Old Trafford and we lost to Valencia in a must win game (we could have topped the group) and we also went out to Sevilla last year after they beat us at Old Trafford!

Your comment couldn't have been any further from an evidence-based reality.
 
Poch would offer absolutely nothing more than what Ole did so far and would have lost to PSG in similar fashion or even worse too. The only thing Poch is superior at is experience, something Ole will gain by time.

I can't get my head about any reason to pay 40m to get Poch while we all know what he's going to offer will be nothing more than Ole so far, top 4 and KO stages in CL.

I'll prefer to stick with Ole then and endure some losses. Also Ole has a big advantage of getting the full support of fans. They'll be all behind him unlike any other foreign manager who will bring division again and some will take his side and others will take the board's one when the results go south. With Ole all the fans will be united behind him.

A new manager will also bring his own team of backroom staff. Perhaps not a full clear out, but disruption nevertheless.
And as I said above, the timeline is against having a new manager in place unless we have already agreed terms with someone.
Highly unlikely.
 
Yep. The showing at PSG was like the second half of Spurs and Leicester where we ran out of ideas and hung on....except that PSG scored. Not denying he's been a brilliant caretaker manager, but so far, that's all he's been.



If he loses those games because of injuries and lack of personnel, no-one will hold it against him. But if he loses because he is outwitted tactically like he was in the second half against Spurs and in the PSG game (injuries not withstanding), I reckon he shouldn't get the job.

Nobody worries about losing, but there's a way to lose. Sevilla and PSG aren't it (though the latter isn't as disgraceful as the former). His comment about individual quality winning games as opposed to in-game tactics also worried me.
But it's true. Football is essentially a game where it's very rare to have a team, however well trained, beat a team that is super creative and skilled. That's why there is a limit in attacking training if the players are not on par.

Of course, you can do some stuff, like Pep insisting on having the wingers staying up and on their side to force the opposition team to stay back, etc... but in term of how the team is going to move the ball, nobody can beat players who trust their abilities and are skillful on and off the ball.

Tactics are for defensive phases and crucial to work out how to recover the ball and get it out but anything that happens in the last third of the pitch is basically magic from the best footballers. Put peak Ronaldinho in our team with Pogba, Martial, Rashford and I guarantee you that every opponent will stay back and never dare go up.
 
I'm staring to question if OGS will back up his big words by giving youth a serious chance*

3x CMs on the bench tonight, while the travelling Chong sits out. I'm really struggling with that decision, especially as it seems we are dropping our usual 433 for a diamond (I.e. his bench has imited ability to switch back to 433 if needed)

Its concerning if a United manager is unwilling to take a risk on youth, particularly in the current situation of 2x injured 1st teamers and the senior rotation options underperforming

* yes I know he has McTom and Perreira on the bench tonight, but they already made a breakthrough under previous managers and are a tested/ safe option
 
I'm staring to question if OGS will back up his big words by giving youth a serious chance*

3x CMs on the bench tonight, while the travelling Chong sits out. I'm really struggling with that decision, especially as it seems we are dropping our usual 433 for a diamond (I.e. his bench has imited ability to switch back to 433 if needed)

Its concerning if a United manager is unwilling to take a risk on youth, particularly in the current situation of 2x injured 1st teamers and the senior rotation options underperforming

* yes I know he has McTom and Perreira on the bench tonight, but they already made a breakthrough under previous managers and are a tested/ safe option

Maybe ask yourself how ready Chong is to play away at Chelsea if someone like Ole doesn't think he's right for the bench, despite us having few other options. It's not fair on the player to throw him in if he's not ready.
 
Maybe its because he knows that his own club fans are super fickle and will be asking for his Job (or won't support him getting the full time job) if he takes the risk and it doesn't pay off.
 
Dare we hope.

He's been perfect imo. And looks extremely likely to continue to be perfect going forward. Sign him up.
Second half against Spurs and PSG was far from perfect. In both those halfs he was outdone tactically.
 
I'm staring to question if OGS will back up his big words by giving youth a serious chance*

3x CMs on the bench tonight, while the travelling Chong sits out. I'm really struggling with that decision, especially as it seems we are dropping our usual 433 for a diamond (I.e. his bench has imited ability to switch back to 433 if needed)

Its concerning if a United manager is unwilling to take a risk on youth, particularly in the current situation of 2x injured 1st teamers and the senior rotation options underperforming

* yes I know he has McTom and Perreira on the bench tonight, but they already made a breakthrough under previous managers and are a tested/ safe option

Good lord, did you see Chong against Reading? A breath of fresh air, but easily disposessed. A knock-out match at Stamford Bridge is hardly the time and place to give him this chance.
 
No. Two men have dinner and a handshake and the press knows exactly what was discussed? Did they put a mike somewhere near their table?
Think they're just trying to get clicks.

Eh, if I was Ole's agent I'd probably be trying to get the press to help pressure Woodward and the club into giving Ole a contract. Maybe throw out a link to another club that's been impressed, like a Leverkusen or Leicester sized club that you could believe Ole would consider a good job if given like a 3 year deal, scare the club off Pochettino or whoever if it's someone that would take time to secure.
 
Ole has made a faux pax tonight. He has talked up sanchez but starts with the slow man mata.

Id have given sanchez, who has more pace a chance in a fluid front 3
 
Fantastic. Found a new system to adapt to the injuries. Hugely impressive from Ole.
 
Best performance at the Bridge in years.

Tactically spot on by Ole despite missing 2 key players. Very commendable so far.
 
Found out tactically again today. Disgusting that City were 4-0 up at half time against this lot and we barely scrapped through two headers. Jose would be winning 7-0 now.

Honestly he’s absolutely brilliant.
 
We've done okay. I mean Chelsea have been fecking woeful.
 
Good lord, did you see Chong against Reading? A breath of fresh air, but easily disposessed. A knock-out match at Stamford Bridge is hardly the time and place to give him this chance.

It was more that he was the only 'new' academy player that went with the squad and didn't get a spot on the bench. Would like him as an wide option in case it didn't work out tonight, rather than 3 x CMs

Looks like we won't need him though :-)
 
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As long as he keeps this stuff up in domestic competitions I'm happy as a larry. Who cares if we got shown up by PSG?
 
As long as he keeps this stuff up in domestic competitions I'm happy as a larry. Who cares if we got shown up by PSG?

Aye. If he performs well in the big domestic games (and by perform well I don't neccessarily mean he has to win them all) then I wouldn't worry about a defeat to a clearly superior side in Europe. The PSG defeat would only be a problem for me if it was in conjunction with continued dissapointment in big games.
 
Cant remember a better all round performance. And i thought our defence were rubbish?

Sign. Him. Up.
 
So, pretty sure some in here were saying Ole should be judged on this game, especially seeing as Pochettino was getting results with a weakened squad. Would like to know their opinions now.
 
We wanted to see how he bounced back from defeat. I think he's passed with flying colours
 
No one should be judged on any one game. All I know is that he’s making Mourinho look more of a mug with every week that passes.
 
Good result for him today. Bounced back from the defeat against PSG and set the team up well.

Roll on Liverpool.....