Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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SteveW said:
Some crowd of entitled idiots in here.

Ole has said he wants to build our game around fitness and speed. How is he supposed to do that with the least fit squad in the league? They look spent.

We will look a different team once pre season and the transfer window are over.

Mark my words.
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Ole won't attract top players. I'm not saying he would be Moyes level of dreadful, but he doesn't seem to possess any qualities of a top manager either. Whatever, let's first ship out the bad players this summer, that's long overdue and more important commitment.
 
The only thing I’m clinging too is the players are gassed so much from his ideal style of play, that resulted in the injury plague that he had to revert back to Jose style because they were accustomed to it... plus with the boatload of players with low duration contracts at the moment means it’s a somewhat unhappy camp due to the uncertainty. Herreras quad injury is about as real as Elvis Presley hiding somewhere in seclusion alive and well.

An absolute minimum of 4 new players is a must personally, and even that would be a tad disappointing.
 
Fridge chutney said:
It's sad. He hasn't even been able to remove players or bring any in.
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Minimalist said:
It’s a bit embarrassing.
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You would have thought after 3 managers and now a United legend struggling people on here might blame the players.

All week posters on here complain that the team is crap and then come match day, it seems to be a huge surprise to the exact same posters that United aren't really that good at football.
 
He is starting to annoy me a bit I won't lie, weird tactics, square pegs in round holes constantly, weird subs. Fred was one of the only ones trying in that first half and he takes him off for McTominay whilst leaving Matic on the field, what is that all about???
 
SteveW said:
Some crowd of entitled idiots in here.

Ole has said he wants to build our game around fitness and speed. How is he supposed to do that with the least fit squad in the league? They look spent.

We will look a different team once pre season and the transfer window are over.

Mark my words.
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Oh but with Mourinho it's all his fault, the buck stops with the manager, the manager is responsible for motivating the players.

The buck stops with Ole
 
Rhyme Animal said:
This.

He isn't a good enough manager, and players have a limited amount of time to win trophies in their career.

If we'd brought in a proper manager the players would want to stay and play I assure you.

Ole isn't just not a top manager - he isn't a PL level manager. No other PL club wanted him after Cardiff.
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To be honest, I don't think any PL team would take him now.
 
Worst thing that you can do when you make a mistake it is to stick with it. No matter what, you must accept that you were wrong and start over again. Ole was mistake.
Stop talking about players, Mourinho or "give him one transfer window". We are in the same place as we were under Mourinho. After 5 bloody months. No progress in game style at all. To be dominated by Barca or PSG is fine, but when you are after 5 months in charge dominated by West ham, Watford, Wolves and Everton than you are clearly out of depth.
He got the job only because he is OGS. If he was xy guy from Norway league, no way that we would even think about him.

I will be abused because of this but i would sack him and bring another coach. If that means that i don't support our manager, fine. Then i don't support him. I will live with that. Why would i support someone who is not good enough for my club? Why did you all turned your back to Lvg and Jose? Because they weren't good. I don't need 12 more months of Ole to realise that he is not good for us. It is obvious for me.
What will one transfer period change? Not much. Ole is this what we see now. Average coach who got the job because he is United legend. If some of you can't see that now then you will see it next season.

Madrid was brave enough to sack Solari. We should do that also
 
Sweet Square said:
You would have thought after 3 managers and now a United legend struggling people on here might blame the players.

All week people on here complain that the team is crap and then come match day, it seems to a huge surprise to the exact same people that United aren't really that good at football.
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Well when we were doing well then who was it?

The issue most people have is there is no identity on what he wants to do. There’s no blueprint we can hang onto for next season. We saw that with Pep and Klopp when they first arrived and struggled.
 
I thought that they announced his contract too early. They should have kept it a secret until we've achieved our targets for the season. There was a risk of complacency as this squad has a pathetic history with that. Seems to be biting us right now.
 
SteveW said:
Some crowd of entitled idiots in here.

Ole has said he wants to build our game around fitness and speed. How is he supposed to do that with the least fit squad in the league? They look spent.

We will look a different team once pre season and the transfer window are over.

Mark my words.
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Managers have to adapt though and make the best of what they have. Losing to Barca with what we have is quite excusable. Regularly losing to sides like Wolves and Everton isn't. If Ole's approach isn't working then he needs to change that approach, even if he wants to revert back to it post-summer when our squad has seen some major changes.
 
What a joke. I felt this from the beginning, Ole is nothing but a yes man who can't believe his luck in landing his dream job.

Please tell me what he has actually changed on the pitch since Mourinho left?

He sits there smiling whilst changing nothing.

We're going to be left with an incompetent manager who our incompetent owners will struggle to get rid of because our fans want to believe in this romantic notion of him turning into the next Zidane.

I don't need to see any more. He's completely out of his depth. No amount of pretty words will cover that up.
 
Christie said:
Oh but with Mourinho it's all his fault, the buck stops with the manager, the manager is responsible for motivating the players.

The buck stops with Ole
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Ole said they weren't fit when he took over. They were doing the least running in the league. How was he supposed to fix that in the business end of the season?
 
The worrying thing is Ole thinks that we need pre season to judge most of these players. He also isn't going to sign more than 6 players whereas arguably we need 6, if not, more.
 
How long did de boer and ranerai last when they got hired at their respected clubs? My point is as some point someone has to make a decision on the entire coaching and playing staff and (now 3-0) and realise we need to change from top to bottom
 
No matter how rubbish the players were - we got to see the tactics of the manager.

Hoofball by Moyes, LVG possession, Jose's Park the bus.

I don't see tactics here & as I said before Ole's first comment was to let the players play freely.
 
This is a disgraceful performance
 
I refuse to give up on him until he has at least one transfer window to get rid and bring in the right players.
Europe League might be an unnecessary distraction with its Thu schedule, though.
 
Accountability doesn't work in binary. We can see when the team isn't good and when the manager can improve. You don't need to give everyone 300m before getting a feel for their level. Most clubs don't have that luxury and they still manage.

In our case we have players standing still while a teammate 10 yards from them is getting pressed. Pass and go isn't bought, it's coached and we need to start working on it now
 
Raoul said:
Basically the old Fergie model. English core with a few Europeans and the South Americans to augment them.
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Basically you also are completely unsure of what style of play he is trying to achieve.
 
He was a mistake. United might have potentially fecked next season before it even started.
 
Sweet Square said:
You would have thought after 3 managers and now a United legend struggling people on here might blame the players.

All week posters on here complain that the team is crap and then come match day, it seems to be a huge surprise to the exact same posters that United aren't really that good at football.
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None of the managers we appointed were good enough though
 
PoTMS said:
The worrying thing is Ole thinks that we need pre season to judge most of these players. He also isn't going to sign more than 6 players whereas arguably we need 6, if not, more.
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He never said that. He said he wants them to come back fit.
 
Majima said:
What a joke. I felt this from the beginning, Ole is nothing but a yes man who can't believe his luck in landing his dream job.

Please tell me what he has actually changed on the pitch since Mourinho left?

He sits there smiling whilst changing nothing.

We're going to be left with an incompetent manager who our incompetent owners will struggle to get rid of because our fans want to believe in this romantic notion of him turning into the next Zidane.

I don't need to see any more. He's completely out of his depth. No amount of pretty words will cover that up.
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We passed up on Mourinho to hire Moyes (back when Mourinho may have been good for us).

Passed up on Klopp due to a ludicrous Disneyland pitch and continuing to back LvG even after that terrible Christmas period.

Now potentially passed up on Pochettino for Ole. This club is simply repeating past mistakes.
 
Whatever doubts we might have about Solskjaer, he's here to stay for an extended term.

All we can hope for to ease our anxiety is a change in structure to stop us being so dependent on our manager for everything.
 
PoTMS said:
The worrying thing is Ole thinks that we need pre season to judge most of these players. He also isn't going to sign more than 6 players whereas arguably we need 6, if not, more.
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this.

Most of us know we need time. We might even come around with us relying on kids if only the manager had the guts to actually play them. But here we are with the manager talking of small gradual changes while insisting with the likes of Young, Jones and Matic.
 
Should be looking at sacking that clown Woodward before we even think about Ole's position.

Absolutely mental to give Ole a permanent contract considering we had nothing to lose by holding on.
 
Nick7 said:
I would like to say I'm not anti Ole, or want him gone or whatever. I just think it was an incredibly stupid and short sighted decision to give him the permanent role before the end of the season. Ed wanted some good will based on how happy we were.

It's more frustration with the board and our current position they've put us in than against Ole.
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Exactly, I not mad at Solksjaer its the board's fault for giving him the role. It's going to painful to see the Old Trafford crowd booing a club legend. We need a complete makeover, we need a philosophy and we have to stick to it and get managers who stick to that philosophy and signs players who fit that philosophy.
 
SportingCP96 said:
He was a mistake. United might have potentially fecked next season before it even started.
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Can we really afford another season flushed down the drain? Wouldn’t be surprised to see our putrid board panic and relieve Ole of his services at the end of the season.
 
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