Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

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It's not Ole's fault, these things happen. However, if he could get us to breakdown weak teams, it might be 2-2 or 2-3. This isn't the first time either.

Although Lingard and now Greenwood have fluffed chances so Ole isn't completely to blame for this game.

By all means, we need to do better when it comes to those things. I’m just pointing out that we wouldn’t have a mountain to climb today if it weren’t for some absolute brainfarts.
 
I predicted a defeat before the game so i'm not surprised at all. These players are pathetic away from home against any team that is up for it.
 
Yeah, Ole’s the only coach that would retain De Gea, assuming class is permanent. :rollseyes:

DDG is past his best.

He can’t pass, he doesn’t come out his box, doesn’t command his area, so yeah a manager like Pep would have done what he did to Joe Hart.
 
The funny thing is people wonder if Pogba wants to stay here under Ole. Or if Maddison and Sancho would want to come and play for Ole. Or even if Haaland would risk his rapidly rising reputation to be Ole's get out of jail card.

Why would anyone good want to join this shambolic, clearly doomed project?
 
No one can argue that blaming manager for mistakes isn’t fair. What is fair is blaming him for the woeful performances
That is fair enough, but loads on here are acting as if sacking Solskjaer will solve everything and as if the players aren't to boame at all. It didn't work when we sacked LvG, it didn't work when we sacked Mourinho and it won't work now.
 
By all means, we need to do better when it comes to those things. I’m just pointing out that we wouldn’t have a mountain to climb today if it weren’t for some absolute brainfarts.
Well we'd be drawing without those brainfarts which isn't good enough against a team in dire form. This isn't the first time we've failed to beat a weaker team, it's a regular occurrence.
 
That is fair enough, but loads on here are acting as if sacking Solskjaer will solve everything and as if the players aren't to boame at all. It didn't work when we sacked LvG, it didn't work when we sacked Mourinho and it won't work now.

This is such a tripe argument. You don't keep a poor manager because you sacked managers in the past. You have a certain level of expectations within a certain time frame and once it becomes clear they aren't good enough you move on.

The managers you named with similar poor form were sacked themselves so you literally have no case here.
 
That is fair enough, but loads on here are acting as if sacking Solskjaer will solve everything and as if the players aren't to boame at all. It didn't work when we sacked LvG, it didn't work when we sacked Mourinho and it won't work now.
So let's just do nothing. Good plan. There's no manager in the world out there who could do a better job than Ole.

Are you serious?
 
The funny thing is people wonder if Pogba wants to stay here under Ole. Or if Maddison and Sancho would want to come and play for Ole. Or even if Haaland would risk his rapidly rising reputation to be Ole's get out of jail card.

Why would anyone good want to join this shambolic, clearly doomed project?

Yeah, we’re actively sabotaging our future so a few fans can feel all warm and fuzzy about the idea of Ole succeeding with better players.... ignoring that none of them will ever fecking come! Mad.
 
Unbelievable.
It really is.

As you see in big games, they're not "pussies". They show plenty of fight.

What's wrong is Ole's tactics - or lack of - against these deep sitting sides. Not players showing fight.
 
Yeah, it’s not the 2 individual errors in this game that are damning... it’s that we haven’t created a single decent chance since then, until the 83rd minute... and even then it’s been more half chances than genuine openings.

That’s not acceptable, even with crapper then usual players. Even mid-table should be able to create against fecking bottom!
This win isn't a fluke this has become a norm v the bottom sides under Ole. Absolutely shocking performance and should be enough to get any manager sacked .
 
Ole's done nothing in 12 months to make me think he can coach a team to break down another. He's got one idea which is to counter attack, because that was apparently all that Fergie ever did.

Mediocre performances and results weren't good enough for Arsenal, Everton or Spurs but are for our board.
 
Well we'd be drawing without those brainfarts which isn't good enough against a team in dire form. This isn't the first time we've failed to beat a weaker team, it's a regular occurrence.

If we’re drawing we’d need just a goal, and our players would be less like headless chickens, knowing time is running out to salvage a single point. Goals shape games.
 
Hilarious form. I thought Spurs and City were turning points. But damn today was a massive stride backwards.
 
DDG has been decent this season and no better but because he was such a car crash at the end of last season people saying he was back to his best. No where near it and he never will be again. Hate to say it but Pep or Klopp would have binned him
 
That is fair enough, but loads on here are acting as if sacking Solskjaer will solve everything and as if the players aren't to boame at all. It didn't work when we sacked LvG, it didn't work when we sacked Mourinho and it won't work now.

Absolute strawman. No one has ever said that and I bet you to quote on that.

Sacking ole won't solve everything, but it would be a start. We could have the best functioning DOF, best players, and crazy rich owners, but that won't be enough to turn a moyes/ole into world class managers.

There are lot of problems at this club, but that doesn't excuse from what we are seeing on the field every week.

Changing managers worked. What makes you think it didn't.

Moyes- 7 th
Lvg- 4
Jose-2

So arguing that managerial changes didn't work is simply not true. It's just that now we are back to moyes/ worse than his level.
 
That is fair enough, but loads on here are acting as if sacking Solskjaer will solve everything and as if the players aren't to boame at all. It didn't work when we sacked LvG, it didn't work when we sacked Mourinho and it won't work now.
I agree to an extent. Our play has been bad for a while and it’s not his fault but in the time he’s been here all you can see is we have a team built for the counter and not much else.

Honestly our movement throughout this game is poor and you have to wonder what the hell do we do in training? Standing in fixed positions means the gap between players is a massive. Surely that is coached
 
That is fair enough, but loads on here are acting as if sacking Solskjaer will solve everything and as if the players aren't to boame at all. It didn't work when we sacked LvG, it didn't work when we sacked Mourinho and it won't work now.

It will solve nothing, short or long-term, but the board must take a stand nevertheless. Continuous poor performances cannot be accepted. We're halfway through yet another stop/start season where we have shown little to no progress - you could argue we have even regressed. Eventually, you have to bite the bullet and say it how it is. It's clearly not working.

A change is needed.
 
Would other top clubs sack him after that? Yes, because its not a one off. It's the umpteenth performance and result like that. What the feck do they do in training in the build up to games against teams like Watford?
 
If we’re drawing we’d need just a goal, and our players would be less like headless chickens, knowing time is running out to salvage a single point. Goals shape games.
If Ole could coach us to break down teams we'd create more chances and score more goals. We rely heavily on individual talent, hoping we intricately pass our way through a tight defence. If we can't counter attack then we struggle.
 
Never want to see him near the club again. Worst manager I have ever seen in my life. My dog would do a better job.
 
Yeah, we’re actively sabotaging our future so a few fans can feel all warm and fuzzy about the idea of Ole succeeding with better players.... ignoring that none of them will ever fecking come! Mad.

These people genuinely think if we make a huge offer for Maddison or Chillwell, they'll choose to follow the path of Maguire and give up Champions League football.

They'll believe in the Ole project and want to try their hand at getting played off the park by every side in the bottom half.

Or that Sancho will choose Ole over Lampard. :lol: Madness.
 
Dear Ole, we know you will never be good enough and your ceiling should be mid-Championship but we know we stuck with you because the board does not care about football. Most fans already forfeited this season so we kindly ask you play the kids and spare us the likes of Jones, Young, Mata, Matic, Lingard and the rest of the deadwood you failed to upgrade/move on.
 
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