How about when Klopp celebrated that draw against west brom? It was a good come back.
Would you rather ole looked depressed and complained every week? How would it help players morale and motivation?
Moyes took over a team that won the league. There was a lot of leadership and talent in the squad. The team was miles better than the current team.
The team is lacking players in a few key positions. This was a problem for a while now. It’s not Ole’s fault and injuries don’t make it easier.
it’s not an easy transition but giving manager time to stabilize things will be better. If anything, replace Woodward (or find him partnership only role) and figure out what’s up with our scouts.
You don't need to go from one extreme to the other. Of course Ole shouldn't look despondent but neither should he have been so overjoyed while team was made to look like championship level minors for 70 minutes of the game, playing against a recently newly promoted club that actually did consist of championship level minors
Klopp celebration against west brom was ott which he was criticized for, however it served a purpose and context is needed to take into account that he had just taken over Liverpool, in his 3rd month at the club and was still trying to form bonds with the players which is why he would get them to do huddles and link arms after games to build morale more than celebrating for the belief that result was any good.
Ole celebrating by himself wasn't to build morale or send out a unifying message, he celebrated because he genuinely believed scraping a point away at Sheffield United after losing the lead in the dying minutes, due to poor in game management, was a job well done and is enough to hold on to his job. In summary Klopps celebration was a signal to his players to bond, Ole's celebration was out of self preservation and desperation.
His post match comments said it all, where he's talking about how much the youngsters have improved compared to when they played Everton.
Contrast to that when he first took charge and where is all the big tough guy talk about ''this is manchester united you expect to win every game
Remember this tough talk?
''When you come into a club like this you expect to win games," said Solskjaer.
"And when you win four, you expect to win the next one as well. I don't look at them and think we can't win that. I think we can win every single game''
Now actions speak louder than words, so when we go into every game with underdog Neil Warnock styled tactics then we find out for ourselves that the guy is full of shit and has lowered expectations to where today people think wins over Norwich and Brighton are something special to savor because we have had this substitute teacher, talking up how difficult it will be to gain victory over such teams.
As for Moyes, the squad wasn't much better at all than what Ole had to choose from.
Remember we had no midfield after years of neglect from Fergie in that area. It was full of ageing fading stars on their last legs like Vidic, Rio, Evra, Carrick and Ryan Giggs. Good for nothing players like Anderson and Cleverly and yes while there was still quality and should have been doing much better with the likes of RVP, Rooney, Nani, Kawaga, Januzaj, that team wasn't really in the shape to win another prem and it wasn't much better than a team filled with Pogba, Matic, Herrera, Fellaini, Rashford, Martial, Smalling, Lindeloff, Lukkaku,
The narrative at the time of Moyes, by his supporters at least who were calling for him to be given more time, is that even SAF would have struggled with that squad. Sounds very familiar doesn't it.
We were expected to challenge for the title, or finish 3rd at the very least to accommodate Moyes transitional year. After it was apparent he was struggling we then said as long as he qualifies for the CL he'd be good. He fecked that up and we finished 7th which was considered unacceptable and so rightly, was given the boot. But in that time during his tenure he did not once have the team drop any lower than 7th and actually done himself justice in the CL.
We actually outplayed most of our opponents, the problem with moyes is that he didn't really have the players on his side and didn't have much tactical variation to break down teams besides having our players rely on width and crosses or have any tactical nous to approach the big games in the right way.
He certainly is a more credible and capable manager than Ole, who has not shown us any other tactic besides sit deep and counter for kick and rush speed merchant football. Any manager with badges could take over United and do those cheap tactics, it doesn't take a genius to be negative and pump long balls forward to speedsters.
Ole has taken a team that finished 2nd before last, and brainwashed his cult of fans into believing that a finish in the top half of the table would be a job well done. In the summer he lowered expectations by saying we'd be fortunate to finish 6th, and our fans adjusted their expectations for him. Now 6th is asking too much.
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