1 or 2 additions?
I'm hoping he wasnt serious..
Otherwise there is a vibe of, "Yes Mr Glazer. Yes Mr. Woodward" in there
I'm hoping he wasnt serious..
Otherwise there is a vibe of, "Yes Mr Glazer. Yes Mr. Woodward" in there
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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All good but we shouldnt take everything managers say by hart. I think he is it should be well aware how many changes we need.
Honestly I don't remember, I just think we hurried up for no apparent reason
We are obviously signing more than one or two players this summer FFS.
When Mourinho lost: “He needs to play the United way!”
When Solskjær loses: “Its not his fault. It’s the players!”
So why was Mourinho sacked then?
Because he was a miserable git who inspired no one.
This is still Mourinhos squad and its not good enough...the defence has needed looking at for years. We need a Vidic or a Stam.
Let's see how Ole rebuilds before we judge. Though I cant understand why he chose Jones over Dalot. Nor why Jones and Smalling got new contracts. They frighten no one. Not in the opposition anyway.
5 loses in the last 7 games. That has to be some kind of record...
I don't really blame him, I suppose he needs more time to build something of his.
What I do dislike about him is that he often acts as he is one of the guys, like he is their buddy, not their boss. I think he needs to be more assertive in the future.
I don't really blame him, I suppose he needs more time to build something of his.
What I do dislike about him is that he often acts as he is one of the guys, like he is their buddy, not their boss. I think he needs to be more assertive in the future.
you assume. Unless i see Ole say other wise, it's just speculation. He could've easily said we will have a big summer this year as he wants to rebuild under his image, he's purposely limited transfer expectations by putting a number on it.
Yeah. "One or two" is just an expression ffs
The tie was lost at Old Trafford, we sat back and let them have the ball when we needed to come out from the start and it cost us, then we were chasing the game.
We will employ the same tactics against City and they we easily beat us, which I think they've easily done for a while at OT
We will employ the same tactics against City and they we easily beat us, which I think they've easily done for a while at OT
There’s still games left this season and a slim chance of making top 4, so he’s hardly gonna say right now that we need half a new squad is he?
Ffs we are obviously going to be signing more that 1 or 2 players.
Ffs we are obviously going to be signing more that 1 or 2 players.
With 5 games ahead now it would be a surprise to see him talk about big summers or major rebuilds. He could have said 2-3 changes which doesn't sound as ridiculous as 1-2 but is more or less the same. It's just not the time to talk openly about the transfer window.
So we can afford time and trust for rival clubs to get their bearing, but not our own? Not even when we have a club legend at the helm? Never mind three years, Oles been here 4 months, with a record of 12-2-2 in the league and STILL its not good enough for this toxic garbage pile of a forum. I know hindsight is a hell of a drug, but beating your chest and shouting: "I KNEW IT" after losing to Barcelona makes you seem like a tit to put it mildly.
Hiring him might have been the wrong decision, maybe he is out of hid depth, but like it or not, hes our manager now and until its clear hes not up for it, he should have our support. This isn't FIFA or FM, people who thought a change in manager would bring instant gratification needs a reality check. I know football fans have short memories but we were in absolute no mans land when he took over, trailing 12 points behind 4th and a manager in full meltdown in open conflict with most of our squad. Season was basically over by then and the fact that we might salvage 4th was seen as a minor miracle.
And if you are one of those who think "no one wanted him", i challenge you to make a big "Ole out" banner and bring it to OT when we play City or Chelsea at the end of the month
Hiring him might have been the wrong decision, maybe he is out of hid depth, but like it or not, hes our manager now and until its clear hes not up for it, he should have our support. This isn't FIFA or FM, people who thought a change in manager would bring instant gratification needs a reality check. I know football fans have short memories but we were in absolute no mans land when he took over, trailing 12 points behind 4th and a manager in full meltdown in open conflict with most of our squad. Season was basically over by then and the fact that we might salvage 4th was seen as a minor miracle.
And if you are one of those who think "no one wanted him", i challenge you to make a big "Ole out" banner and bring it to OT when we play City or Chelsea at the end of the month
I for one expect our manager to divulge every detail of transfer plans and all manner of in-house matters at every press conference and every opportunity.
The rot has started a long time ago. We have not replaced players like Giggs, Neville, Vidic, Rio etc. Our only real replacement on the right wing in 9 years has been Valencia. It's not good enough. Damn, we haven't really replaced Rooney yet. Ole needs the investment or unfortunately he will be just another helpless soul.
Based on you previous comments, I don't think bringing poch up is anything unusual. i am not arguing with you (same with my post on poch thread) but pointing out if your going to shit on our manager than make points which makes sense (as you did before in poch thread) but then said poch knows how to manage a big club (making shit up) and then when asked why they're a big club you changed. Even on this thread, everything you said is complete nonsense, but lets not get that in the way your agenda which is embarrassingly clear if anyone has seen your posts. You made valid points on Ole but then can't stop yourself from making shit up.
How dare i point out that the points you've made are complete nonsense.
Keep playing Ashley Young is absolutely unforgivable. Losing hope that this will be any different from previous managers. Need to get top 4 now.
Looking like the honeymoon period over. Voting with your heart and not head coining to bite us on the head. Granted Barc always the better side though. Ole going to need every bit of 200 million plus if were going to compete with top 4 next year.
4/5 players need to see the door unfortunately. Gutted we never went for Poch.
Voting with your heart and not head coining to bite us on the head. Granted Barc always the better side though. Ole going to need every bit of 200 million plus if were going to compete with top 4 next year. 4/5 players need to see the door unfortunately. Gutted we never went for Poch.
Need to get top four? When Ole took over he was +10 points behind THREE clubs we would need to overtake to get top four. Now it is a necessity? What the feck can he do?
A lot of people here have unrealistic expectations of Ole or any other manager.
Rather than Ole bashing, I think it’s more a reaction to the cold slap of reality from last night. After the dream start under Ole, it turns out that our players are after all not fit for purpose and our bad results were not all due to an evil spell cast by Mourinho. Combine that with the belief that the club lacks the structure, the direction and maybe the ambition to implement such an extensive overhaul, and it’s a fairly bleak picture for a United fan.
Not dismissing spurs as they've done well but pointing out a posters rubbish which he makes up but when challenged changes his points and who cares whose bigger? really?
Not laughing at spurs but laughing at someone says spurs are a big club to make his points on poch having experience on managing big club. which is complete rubbish.
Not going to bash him, of course. It would just help us a lot in rebuilding the squad.
Exactly.
Since his appointment we gained second highest points in the league.
In FA cup, we beat Chelsea and Arsenal away. No one would have said anything had we lost in the fourth round in Stamford bridge.
In CL, no one thought we can get past PSG.
So in short, he has done very well and as much as anyone could.
Only hint of problem is style of play, which is something directly related to squad fitness. We played with high intensity and players started getting injured, it reached a point where we were lucky to field 11 senior players.
Also few people saying we should have waited till end of season should also remember how fans were moaning that other clubs have started planning for next season, ManUtd don't have manager to plan for next season and who is targeting the player or providing inputs on which areas to be addressed. Not to forget the common phrase "no manager, no DoF, we are so unstable at the moment" type of posts.
It's not his fault Young didn't hoof the one time he could have, or that De Gea made a ridiculous mistake. Being 2-0 down because of that is obviously going to feck over everything you have prepared for. You simply cannot afford silly mistakes at this point in the CL, against a team several levels above us. I can't blame Ole for yesterday's game at all.
How anyone can blame Ole for that I'll never know. He set them up perfectly and they were easily the better team until 2 individuals handed Barca 2 goals and ended the game.
He did great to get us there. He's done fantastically to get us into contention for top 4 despite having an injury crisis for a while there.
Whether we make it or not I'm really excited for the future for the first time in ages. Cant wait to see what he does in the transfer window.
He did great to get us there. He's done fantastically to get us into contention for top 4 despite having an injury crisis for a while there.
Whether we make it or not I'm really excited for the future for the first time in ages. Cant wait to see what he does in the transfer window.
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Quite important given that tyle of play is the thing that the manager has control over.
We have second highest points per game since he was appointed. Liverpool played 1 game more than us.
Re style of play, it's also important that we appointed him midseason with no transfers and no time to work on fitness, tactics. Funny you didn't even bold the full sentence.
Yup
After 7 minutes of the game yesterday I thought to myself - in these 7 minutes we have attacked and created more chances than we would have in 90 minutes with Mourinho…
OGS wants to play his kind of football - some of our players werent ready for it, or arent good enough for it. But regardless of what people Think - give him 2 transfer windows and he will brutally get these players out of the club. But people must understand that you cant get rid of 10 players at once, but 5-6 of them will leave this summer - and probably 4-5 more by the summer of 2020.
Just hope he can bring in some fullbacks. We have one recognized fullback in Shaw who wasn't available. Young should never play for us after this season. We need more than a central defender and a right winger.
It's baffling really, we even played Rojo there many times over the years which has costed us along with Tony V who hasn't been good for years. The running of the club is an absolute shambles.
I only have to think what the feck we we doing getting in a crocked old Bastian Schweinsteiger.
This nonsense player recruitment and non recruitment has to fecking stop right now. 800 million spent and all we have is gaping holes, crocks and misfits.
It's baffling really, we even played Rojo there many times over the years which has costed us along with Tony V who hasn't been good for years. The running of the club is an absolute shambles.
I only have to think what the feck we we doing getting in a crocked old Bastian Schweinsteiger.
This nonsense player recruitment and non recruitment has to fecking stop right now. 800 million spent and all we have is gaping holes, crocks and misfits.
I have gone from thinking he is right for the job to worried about this 3 year contract.
He completely messed up the tactics in the first game. 5 at the back? Please.
Starting Young is not a good decision. We could have played Dalot or Matic there.
No Greenwood option.
Silly tactics with Lingard in the "false 10" role.
However it was not really Ole's fault we lost last night.
Also his substitutions are completely underwhelming. And Carrick annoys me for some reason, not sure what he offers.
He completely messed up the tactics in the first game. 5 at the back? Please.
Starting Young is not a good decision. We could have played Dalot or Matic there.
No Greenwood option.
Silly tactics with Lingard in the "false 10" role.
However it was not really Ole's fault we lost last night.
Also his substitutions are completely underwhelming. And Carrick annoys me for some reason, not sure what he offers.
Feel better now ?
Sure. Ignoring why couldn't change the style of play completely was bit odd.
So it starts. Carrick, what does he do thread any moment.
Ole has done as well as could possibly be expected given the current squad and levels of fitness.
We now have to hope that our signings and selling policy during the summer is coherent and focused on genuine quality. I say 'hope' because not having a DoF means that we may have the same people making the catastrophic decisions as we have had for the past 6 years. If that is the case, then nothing that Ole or any manager can do will be enough.
We also need Ole be able to respark the enthusiasm and energy which he managed to inject into the team when he arrived. Injuries and tiredness seems to be hurting team performances. I am hoping that the players get a proper rest during the summer and then at least we may be able to play next season with a style which we are all more comfortable with.
We now have to hope that our signings and selling policy during the summer is coherent and focused on genuine quality. I say 'hope' because not having a DoF means that we may have the same people making the catastrophic decisions as we have had for the past 6 years. If that is the case, then nothing that Ole or any manager can do will be enough.
We also need Ole be able to respark the enthusiasm and energy which he managed to inject into the team when he arrived. Injuries and tiredness seems to be hurting team performances. I am hoping that the players get a proper rest during the summer and then at least we may be able to play next season with a style which we are all more comfortable with.
I think the middle-ground or balanced position to take on Ole is that the selection was rushed for sentiment/populism. The club made it clear when he came in that he was purely an interim manager as we would do "extensive searches" for the rest of the season / off season. This all turned out to be bollocks as we simply went with good temporary performances + fan opinion. However he deserves an opportunity now that he is there.
Now he is in the job, he's made some good comments, some of the play has been good. However there is also a concern that he could be a "yes man" or simply comfortable with the current status of the club. He's also made some decisions like sticking with young, but i can excuse those decisions as he is still so fresh in the role and is basically trying to see the season out the best he can. He will trust in the "old guard" for now as he finds his premier league managerial feet next season.
The only thing us fans cannot compromise on is the need to radically alter the club. If he wants to keep the dead-wood, if he wants to "steady the ship" then he has to be called out for it. We back the manager to a point. However keeping him on his toes is a must. We cannot let 6 years of rot just continue for the sake of warm feelings. That doesn't mean blasting him if he loses opening day next year or seeking a sacking after 6 months. Ole's at the wheel, yet we need to keep an eye on him in case he falls asleep at the wheel.
Now he is in the job, he's made some good comments, some of the play has been good. However there is also a concern that he could be a "yes man" or simply comfortable with the current status of the club. He's also made some decisions like sticking with young, but i can excuse those decisions as he is still so fresh in the role and is basically trying to see the season out the best he can. He will trust in the "old guard" for now as he finds his premier league managerial feet next season.
The only thing us fans cannot compromise on is the need to radically alter the club. If he wants to keep the dead-wood, if he wants to "steady the ship" then he has to be called out for it. We back the manager to a point. However keeping him on his toes is a must. We cannot let 6 years of rot just continue for the sake of warm feelings. That doesn't mean blasting him if he loses opening day next year or seeking a sacking after 6 months. Ole's at the wheel, yet we need to keep an eye on him in case he falls asleep at the wheel.
Since PSG victory.
P7 W2 D0 L5
Goals For 6, Goals Against 12
Pretty damning statistics when trying to get top 4, I think we will be sixth and unsurprisingly for me the position I predicted before season started, this nothing to do with whoever was manager just our level of talent in squad.
Ed needs to be prepared to pay over the odds for players Ole wants unless they have a buy out clause and no bidding wars, we are certainly in danger of going Arsenal lengths of time without another title.
Ole looks so different since his winning streak ended, looks older, more grey and stressed. Such a big job for him now and I hope he has the pull to get players without CL to offer along with no clear indication that we will seriously challenge for major honors again anytime soon.
P7 W2 D0 L5
Goals For 6, Goals Against 12
Pretty damning statistics when trying to get top 4, I think we will be sixth and unsurprisingly for me the position I predicted before season started, this nothing to do with whoever was manager just our level of talent in squad.
Ed needs to be prepared to pay over the odds for players Ole wants unless they have a buy out clause and no bidding wars, we are certainly in danger of going Arsenal lengths of time without another title.
Ole looks so different since his winning streak ended, looks older, more grey and stressed. Such a big job for him now and I hope he has the pull to get players without CL to offer along with no clear indication that we will seriously challenge for major honors again anytime soon.
Played 4 - 2 wins and 2 losses since PSG win. The games that matter for Top 4.
Form matters though and ours is poor.
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