Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[MonkeysMagic]

He uses the word ‘of course’ too much for my liking.

‘Ole, do you need a DoF to help identify and acquire transfer targets?’

‘Ole, do you have a crap defence?’

‘Ole, does half of the current squad needs to be told to sling their hook?’

‘Ole, is Woodward an utter numpty?’

I know how he should answer these questions!

 

[kouroux]

I tend to disagree. Oles approach then was all about pressing and high pressure and we moved away from it. Maybe due to injuries and intensity etc.

To me this has been part of the issue in our drop in form.

Next season will reveal a lot. It's impossible to fully assess him now even if some of his decisions are weird

 

[acnumber9]

why is Jones RB instead of Dalot to begin with?

Did you watch the game?

 

[Canagel]

Pep lost 4-0 to barce in his first year. Ole didn't even get a window yet.

And people are turning already . This short termism is why we're in this mess. Let him build his team for goodness.

 

[Gehrman]

I think we should have waited till the end of the season, but obviously the momentum he built earned him the job, but it's clear as a day we are falling back to the Jose levels, when OGS took over. We've been beated by decent teams, so it's not the end of the world, but it still hurts. Our Squad needs 3 or 4 quality players at least to be Man Utd level, which is depressing since it been like this for 6 years.

 

[Web of Bissaka]

How can we be optimistic when he gave Young and Jones a new contract?

Does that really show enough ambition? What's going to change when you keep the same dross year afyer year.

Is Ole the one that gave them the contracts though? Or the higher club management team?

Pretty sure it's the latter, and I'm not mistaken the talks with Young and Jones for their new contract have been going on ever since last year, just that it's finalized when Ole is in charge.

 

[RedTillI'mDead]

Did you watch the game?

Yes, I did say to begin with....!

I know Lindelof ended up on the right, which is madness!

 

[Terminator]

Pep lost 4-0 to barce in his first year. Ole didn't even get a window yet.

And people are turning already . This short termism is why we're in this mess. Let him build his team for goodness.

Agree with your point but not a great example. Peps city also beat Barca 3-1.

 

[acnumber9]

Yes, I did say to begin with....!

I know Lindelof ended up on the right, which is madness!

Lindelof played the entire game at right back. Well, until Dalot came on.

 

[bondsname]

Appoint a Dof, give Ole some signings, sell the deadwood, and be patient. We have to be.

It's time to start planning for the long term guys and it's going to be another hard couple of years. Feck the short term. Forget about who we were in the past and just focus on looking forward. Keep supporting Ole, I don't blame him at all for this loss.

Anyone who thought we would beat Barcelona at their home in our current state are, well too optimistic I would say. If the board and coaching team handles this right we can finally turn into the right direction. I hope this loss is a wake up call for everyone associated with the club, we need a strategy and structur and create an ambitious atmosphere in the club.

 

[RedTillI'mDead]

Lindelof played the entire game at right back. Well, until Dalot came on.

Ok my mistake, I saw Jones as right back in line up and wasn't entirely paying attention to exact positioning! But yes I do remember Jones trying to close Messi and failing badly and that was very early in the game.

Principle applies either way. Why not use a right back at right back!

 

[Look-a-Hill]

His team selections are all over the place

So are his players' performances. When you're having to choose between a player who traps 1 in 5 passes vs. one who traps 1 in 6 you're on a hiding to nothing. Would Lukaku honestly have made a difference? He's no better.

I'll start judging Ole after the summer. Our squad is crap and the early results and latter drop in form mean nothing when a quarter of the squad needs overhauling. I at least enjoy watching United now and my hope is he knows the calibre of player this team deserves, the type of signing we've benefited from in the past and we end up with somebody useful with their future ahead of them and not more money spunked on the left overs from better run teams.

 

[acnumber9]

Ok my mistake, I saw Jones as right back in line up and wasn't entirely paying attention to exact positioning! But yes I do remember Jones trying to close Messi and failing badly and that was very early in the game.

Principle applies either way. Why not use a right back at right back!

I agree. Jones at right back would’ve made more sense than Lindelof to be honest. It was a weird choice and it backfired. Not helped by the fact that Lindelof got zero support down that flank. I can see why he did it though. Dalot isn’t good enough defensively and he probably to still be in the game in the last 20 and have a go then.

 

[R'hllor]

It looks like there was a moment when we swapped our performances from first few games for more result based mentality, make sense i guess, higher chance to land a job, on top of it, players joined with their support on twitter what not. So now we are back to if we dont win, there is nothing else under. After this season, he will get some money and summer transfer window, it wont fix some shortcomings but if he stays true to our DNA, he gonna make right decisions and be fine. If not, players like Young will get their extensions etc.

 

[Buchan]

His blatant favouritism is starting to grate a little. Rashford, Lingard, Young - to name a few - all start every single week when fit and available, no matter their form or the form of others. It’s galling. We all love homegrown/local/loyal, long-term servants to be in the team but not when it’s to the detriment of said team’s ability to win football matches. The aforementioned three were atrocious tonight yet I’d be shocked if they’re dropped for our next fixture. It just stinks to the high heavens.

 

[hp88]

Hate to say it but were going to be on his back next season, not entirely his fault when he has that shower of shite squad to play with.

 

[AJ10]

These things have nothing to do with Jose or "next transfer window". These things are pure proof how good tactician he is.
1) played Young who is out of form. Pick Darmian or Rojo. Are they better? Who knows but try
2) The one thing which looks decent is Mike and Lindelof as central pair. Why to brake them? If you want to play Jones, put him on the right. Or put Darmian. He put central defender (Bailly) on the right against Psg which cost us. He did it again.
3) Lukaku on the bench
4) Lingard on the pitch

His team selections are all over the place

You're the Poch fan who said poch knows how to manage a big club (spurs ) and i asked you to explain why they're a big club then you changed to call them big (ish).

- Rojo played and was shit vs west ham and even i am sure your massiah wouldn't have played Darmian who hasn't played a game in months vs Barca.
-Bailly has played at RB and even the right side of back 3 before but dont expect you to acknowledge that since it doesn't make fit your point
- Lukaku who can't control a ball? he does seem to love Lingard for some reason.

I am not sure how that proves he's a bad tactician (not saying he's good or anything) I guess you should try again but this time bring facts not alternative facts OR at least don't add (ish) next to them.

 

[SammyUnited_83]

Pep lost 4-0 to barce in his first year. Ole didn't even get a window yet.

And people are turning already . This short termism is why we're in this mess. Let him build his team for goodness.

Let's be honest Ole was given the job on short termism...

 

[kouroux]

Pep lost 4-0 to barce in his first year. Ole didn't even get a window yet.

And people are turning already . This short termism is why we're in this mess. Let him build his team for goodness.

In this mess how ? I don't think a few posts on the caf have any importance

 

[SammyUnited_83]

You're the Poch fan who said poch knows how to manage a big club (spurs ) and i asked you to explain why they're a big club then you changed to call them big (ish).

- Rojo played and was shit vs west ham and even i am sure your massiah wouldn't have played Darmian who hasn't played a game in months vs Barca.
-Bailly has played at RB and even the right side of back 3 before but dont expect you to acknowledge that since it doesn't make fit your point
- Lukaku who can't control a ball? he does seem to love Lingard for some reason.

I am not sure how that proves he's a bad tactician (not saying he's good or anything) I guess you should try again but this time bring facts not alternative facts OR at least don't add (ish) next to them.

You dismiss Spurs, yet at this moment in time I know which club is going in the right direction. Who cares who is bigger, they are better, and that's mainly down to their manager building that club better than anybody we have had since Fergie.

 

[Ace of Spades]

The lineup was fine, until our players once again made stupid mistakes, we were in the game. A big problem recently has been individual mistakes in defense. Against Arsenal, wolves, Barca both legs and even wet ham, poor mistakes time after time. A few of them were a result of trying to play out from the back, it is very obvious our players are not good at it. No wonder Jose always went long from the back and never bothered with it. Maybe Ole should go back to it as well, it is causing us more problems than the opposition do.

 

[Andycoleno9]

You're the Poch fan who said poch knows how to manage a big club (spurs ) and i asked you to explain why they're a big club then you changed to call them big (ish).

- Rojo played and was shit vs west ham and even i am sure your massiah wouldn't have played Darmian who hasn't played a game in months vs Barca.
-Bailly has played at RB and even the right side of back 3 before but dont expect you to acknowledge that since it doesn't make fit your point
- Lukaku who can't control a ball? he does seem to love Lingard for some reason.

I am not sure how that proves he's a bad tactician (not saying he's good or anything) I guess you should try again but this time bring facts not alternative facts OR at least don't add (ish) next to them.

Only one who is trying with alternative facts is you. And trying to bring Poch and Spurs in this is totally pointless. Classic ad hominem stuff from people who don't have arguments so try with trash talk. Please go away from me with that attitude.

 

[AndyJ1985]

You're the Poch fan who said poch knows how to manage a big club (spurs ) and i asked you to explain why they're a big club then you changed to call them big (ish).

- Rojo played and was shit vs west ham and even i am sure your massiah wouldn't have played Darmian who hasn't played a game in months vs Barca.
-Bailly has played at RB and even the right side of back 3 before but dont expect you to acknowledge that since it doesn't make fit your point
- Lukaku who can't control a ball? he does seem to love Lingard for some reason.

I am not sure how that proves he's a bad tactician (not saying he's good or anything) I guess you should try again but this time bring facts not alternative facts OR at least don't add (ish) next to them.

What's with all the laughing at Spurs on here. They are doing a damn sight better than we are and that's largely down to Poch

 

[Kapardin]

What's with all the laughing at Spurs on here. They are doing a damn sight better than we are and that's largely down to Poch

Honestly don't get the Spurs hate here at times. They aren't unlikeable though Alli pushes it a bit.

 

[Phil Osophy]

We started well enough to level the tie and missed our chances. Probably with 0-1 in the first minutes the game is different, and they get nervous while our confidence gets reinforced. Not saying we would have won in the end but there's an option at least. With 1-0 the tie is almost over, and if there was a little chance De Gea ruined it seconds later so after that it was a friendly game. Predictable and easy to accept for me as we are intruders at this level right now.

 

[Sweet Square]

Doing a fine job with a poor-ish team.

 

[The Nani]

Not sure why we went away from three at the back.

But when you look at the match, it wasn’t really that bad. An individual error from Young, a howler from Dave and a worldie of a strike from Coutinho.

We created a fair few chances but pissed them all away.

The real concerning takeaway from the match is that Ole continues to persist with players like Lingard and Young despite their form and to the dertiment of the team.

That has to be remedied or we won’t progress and the cycle will just begin again with a new manager in a year or two.

 

[royboy16]

Knives are out with some,what happened to giving him the rest of this season to find his feet a bit?
The second goal killed us,we started brightly and were soundly beaten.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Pep lost 4-0 to barce in his first year. Ole didn't even get a window yet.

And people are turning already . This short termism is why we're in this mess. Let him build his team for goodness.

Problem is Ole was never remotely considered for the job, Jose just got himself sacked too early in the season, and Ole was out of the blue, almost certainly on SAF advice, he's done well, but real top managers are few and far between, so it's obviously a long shot he's going to be one.

Ed had us all dreaming that we'd finally get someone who was potentially a top manager, and who was a good fit for philosophy we want to follow, all backed up with a DOF, and a healthy transfer budget.

'Short termism' is to throw another £200 million at it, with no DOF, and nothing more than blind hope that something will finally click.

 

[KristianMackle]

People are going to talk about gulf in class and there was but Ole set us up perfectly to go a goal or two up in the first 15 minutes had we competent finishers and gamechamgers. That would've changed the whole game. You cant prepare your team for the kind of goals we gave away. It's impossible; the tie was effectively over after 20 minutes.

In those first 10-15 minutes, we had them! They were nervous and jittery at the back but we gift them 2 goals and now Barca can slow the game down and pass it about like they want. From that point, we're just chasing shadows and Barca can just pick us off for fun.

Ole will get it right.

 

[JustAGuest]

I think the manager is one of the less pressing issues at the club. With Moyes, LvG and Mourinho as our previous sequence of managers it's clear that there is no apparent strategy involved. The club has leapt from one style to another. Each manager has been allowed to bring in their own signings, which have then for the most part fallen out of favour with the next appointment.

The club is in desperate need of a DoF and a suitable long term strategy. Much inspiration can be taken from Ajax tonight who are a great example of a well managed club operating with a clear strategy.

 

[Wolff]

You dismiss Spurs, yet at this moment in time I know which club is going in the right direction. Who cares who is bigger, they are better, and that's mainly down to their manager building that club better than anybody we have had since Fergie.

You had one word right in there "Building". imagine that.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Ole has done fine, a bad patch of form where players play like idiots does not help. He plays the young players, and they get shredded for not being consistent enough, and that he should have gone with experience. He plays the older players, who feck up and then he is blamed picking players who are past it. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

The problem is our squad is very poor, the players that are playing are ones that have done the best. Players not in form have been dropped, but there is not much to rely on unfortunately.

 

[Van Piorsing]

This summer it's gonna be him or the same underperforming players.

He has the lifetime opportunity to show he's better for this club than Van Gaal and Jose... he's just gonna have to make few decisions that will upset perhaps more than few players on parasitical contracts.

 

[JMack1234]

You cannot legislate for two of your key players dropping absolute clangers in the first 20 mins. I hope Ole is ruthless this summer and starts the process of rebuilding this squad.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

Even in the games we've lost I've seen us go in with a plan and create chances. But this group seem to love being the creator of their own adversities - individual error galore. Lose their heads, balls and the game soon after that; very little a coach can do to legislate for.

 

[ForestRGoinUp]

You cannot legislate for two of your key players dropping absolute clangers in the first 20 mins. I hope Ole is ruthless this summer and starts the process of rebuilding this squad.

Love Ole, but can't honestly believe we've put him in charge of this rebuild. Bonkers.

 

[Infra-red]

Love Ole, but can't honestly believe we've put him in charge of this rebuild. Bonkers.

It's certainly a bold decision to appoint a relative novice with no experience of this kind of thing (especially when there's no technical director overseeing it). Hopefully it pays off.

 

[ForestRGoinUp]

It's certainly a bold decision to appoint a relative novice with no experience of this kind of thing (especially when there's no technical director overseeing it). Hopefully it pays off.

Bookies would happily take your money if you were betting on it.

 

[Ace of Spades]

Even in the games we've lost I've seen us go in with a plan and create chances. But this group seem to love being the creator of their own adversities - individual error galore. Lose their heads, balls and the game soon after that; very little a coach can do to legislate for.

Iwas saying the same thing. Individual errors have been happening a lot recently. Annoyingly, it is the experienced players who are making the mistakes.

Ole needs to be ruthless, and needs to get rid of the overpaid dross in the squad.