They will not sack ole not yet probably have something in his contract which would allow them to get rid of him in Christmas if united are below tenth on the cheap, its sad that its come to this for our great club. He should have gone few games ago
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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I don't think any manager would want to get rid of players without a valid reason. They're needy and would always want to have a big squad. My guess is the club failed to buy some of his targets/replacements. We'll likely never know.
Lukaku wanted out. Herrera wanted a big contract which the clubs' money men not willing to pay. Sanchez was not working. Fellaini was rubbish. It's difficult to play decent football and look tactically drilled with a team just put together over the last few weeks. We have some major players out who would be the first choice if fit. Pogba, Martial, Shaw, Wan Bissaka. I also know Rashford is carrying an injury. That's half the team. I'm not suggesting these players would pull up many trees but there would definitely be an improvement.
Young, Mata, Matic, Pereira, Fred, Rojo, Lingard are not players who should be starting any games. Players such as McTominay, James, Greenwood, Tuanzebe should be eased gently into the team and not all together. Unfortunately, these kids are now expected to carry the team. Ole might a coach who might be out of his depth, inept, or just plain unlucky it's difficult to judge. We have tried some of the most experienced coaches in the world. we know how that turned out.
We cant blame the team again. Why cant he get the team to play like they did that landed him the job in the first place? Were the players good then and shit now?
All he had to do was add to that team and get the fitness levels up to his standards. He had a whole summer window to do that.
He spent all his transfer budget on defense even though midfield and attack were a bigger problem since he knew Lukaku and Herrera were off.
And he hasnt performed any kind of a miracle on his transfers either. Maguire and Wan aren't a product of his scouting or anything like that both were the most talked about defenders last year and Maguire had been Mourinhos target since the year before. Plus he broke the world record to sign him. And James was down to Giggs.
Enough with the excuses for Ole. If we had to sign an ex United player who knows United blah blah at least we should have gone for Blanc who has something to say as a manager.
You dont go from Molde and relegated Cardiff to managing United, thats not how it works.
Didnt we bid for Dybala and mandzukic? I think the poor planning is not only on Ole, we were bidding for attackers and the board didnt come through for Ole.
PS: Douglas Costa's agent said we were interested in Costa as well but Saari blocked he move so it appears we were in the market but could not get the deals over the line.... this is not on Ole.
It was expensive to get them over the line and Ole said fine. So he did mess us up. If Jose was in his first season we would have got Dybala and Mandzukic and Jose doesn't give a damn if they only want to come for the money.
I have no qualms about Dybala - that deal was fraught with contract difficulties and the player clearly didn't want to leave Juve. The real question is what happened to the Mandzukic deal and why did we not have any other targets if Mandzukic also did not want to come or Juve did not want to sell.
I had no idea that was the case... I got the impression that it was not Ole's call and he wanted more attackers.
How could Ole not have wanted reinforcements?
That makes no sense to me.
I am also not aware that Ole said no to any deal, except perhaps Dybala and again this deal I remember had some weird contract issues with his image rights and also the fact the player did not want to leave Juve at all.
Maybe Ole's under pressure, seeing as Rashford's been selected as the PR-friendly face of the club (youth, potential, diversity, local roots, academy-trained etc etc), not to have rivals for Marcus's place?
Did you miss the big PR of only wanted players that 'want' to be here? he said he was okay with having Mason fill in the gap.. If it was so much of an issue he wouldn't have got rid of Sanchez after the window closed.
We also have to be fair to Ole. We've suffered a lot of injuries to key men throughout this season.
I also believe we'll get some players in January. Not doing so would be tantamount to malpractice.
Another thing: we're struggling to scores goals so why not play Rashford and Greenwood up top? Creating his own problems.
I also believe we'll get some players in January. Not doing so would be tantamount to malpractice.
Another thing: we're struggling to scores goals so why not play Rashford and Greenwood up top? Creating his own problems.
To an extent, but Liverpool weren’t quite the Great Satan they are these days. The huge rivalry with Leeds was still a recent thing, and Liverpool only became a major force in the mid-70s. Plus we used to beat them (Liverpool) regularly, even when we weren’t great
It hurts so bad to see poor football every year despite comitting every day to follow the team. Literally no one at the club right now cares about the fans. Not one player.
This must be worst time in club's history.
Who would have thought that.. but makes perfect sense. Stay woke! Marketing wins again, maybe this is why McT is playing in midfield.. youth, local, academy trained, 6ft plus, blonde hair.
It's always easy to say get rid of the manager. And replace him with whom?
Wasnt that in reference to Lukaku?
Regardless I think he was let down by the club and while I dont think he is the man to get us to the next level, he is not the root of the issues at United.
My point is that he had to prioritize his attack as we all knew Lukaku would leave from very early. I'm sure he could've found a couple of players that would've improved our output this season.
Neil Custis so thought I'd post it.
What kind of Americans are Glazers? They are losing shit load of money and they are still not sacking people? That is it, i want Trump. He would sack everybody by now. From Ole to a guy who is seliing hot dogs
We have added 130m worth of defenders to that backline. I don't see why we need to go more defensive with the 4231. It should actually be the reverse with the midfielders being relieved of some of the defensive duties. But again I am just another fan who knows nothing about tactics and stuff.
The thing is this 4231 crap isn't working then why not change systems and try something different? Its like doing the same thing everytime and expecting magic to happen on its own.
It’s bad right now but we’ve had worse times, come on.
If the players can't see what he's implementing then he's a gonner. Which is sad because I never wanted it to come to this due his standing at the club.
For people complaining he has a bad squad/board to work with, just put him in city/pool or even west ham & Leicester for that matter, he would still struggle.
He is not cut out to be on the PL. I like the guy as much as the next person in here, but he isn’t fit to be at a PL club, let alone at United.
He is not cut out to be on the PL. I like the guy as much as the next person in here, but he isn’t fit to be at a PL club, let alone at United.
How about moving Ole into a director of football role?
Ole is a football man, heart in the right place, and cares about United, and developing young players. Could he make it as long term strategist?
Ole is a football man, heart in the right place, and cares about United, and developing young players. Could he make it as long term strategist?
I don't see the Glazers ever ordering any type of structural change. They don't care about football and they probably have minimal involvement within the clubs operations, imo any major change at the board level will have to come from Ed.
Or we could appoint someone with experience as a DOF and a proven track record.
Enough with the romanticism.
The stories are coming out.
Its the end of Solskjaer im afraid.
Its the end of Solskjaer im afraid.
No Laurent Blanc please. No former players as care takers. The club from top to bottom is a nostalgia filled love sick puppy with an ass covered with Cupid arrows. We can't have another Ole.
Given none of us can it's not surprise they can't
This is where having managerial pedigree is priceless because I think he's lost the players now, they don't know what they're buying into and there's no successful former team to buy him a extra time
Pissed off we are giving Liverpool a free hit. For fecks sake can something please not go their way for once? We’re basically forfeiting that game now.
The players will be up for it no doubt about that. I think quality wise though we will come up short unless everybody is fit.
Let’s be honest he won’t be getting the sack because of liverpool anyway, it’s the first 9 games plus the end of last season. Our form is horrendous.
No.
That role goes to someone who has experience and a proven track record in performing that role. Kinda like how our approach to hiring managers should have been, rather than giving it to a rank amateur like Ole based on worthless sentiment.
"The problem is, the players cannot see what the plan is beyond a lot of running."
On a more serious note a manager who entertained Lingard as a 10 because of 'energy' can't have much of a plan beyond running
We dont have defensive issue?
I'm think Solskjaer has October to save his job.
It wasn't Ole's fault that our squad was so threadbare to begin with but Martial, Pogba, Shaw and Wan-Bissaka are all potentially back in contention for the Liverpool match and beyond.
Liverpool, Partizan Belgrade, Norwich and Chelsea await this month. If we only pick up a point or two against Liverpool and Norwich, lose away in Europe and get dumped out of the Carabao Cup then I think the board will rightly or wrongly sack him.
Even if the club are preaching patience, there will come a time when they are forced to act. You can't build a Premier League winning squad if you're playing in the Championship.
It wasn't Ole's fault that our squad was so threadbare to begin with but Martial, Pogba, Shaw and Wan-Bissaka are all potentially back in contention for the Liverpool match and beyond.
Liverpool, Partizan Belgrade, Norwich and Chelsea await this month. If we only pick up a point or two against Liverpool and Norwich, lose away in Europe and get dumped out of the Carabao Cup then I think the board will rightly or wrongly sack him.
Even if the club are preaching patience, there will come a time when they are forced to act. You can't build a Premier League winning squad if you're playing in the Championship.
Certainly players are not listening to him. What is the point to listen to a manager who plays Lingard (the least creative player in the history of Manchester United) as an attacking midfielder, or who persists with playing Matic when anyone’s grandmother (if still alive) is probably faster then him? I am not even talking about such an idiocy as playing Pogba as a DM (which simultaneously deprives us of a big chunk of his attacking threat and makes us exposed to pressing).
He lost the dressing room thanks to his stupid decisions and due to him being stubborn not to make amends. No one else to blame
He lost the dressing room thanks to his stupid decisions and due to him being stubborn not to make amends. No one else to blame
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