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I have some idea of what coaching is, yes. But i am not the one making claim its the worst since the beginning of time. I am one of those claiming you have no clue what goes behind closed doors. I am sorry, I’m sure i could have used better examples so they could easily translate!Do you understand what coaching is?
Lets forget about coaching. Lets ask what we are doing in training. Ole has had 10 months with this squad. His teams still can't
From this I can easily deduct that these things never happen on training. If it did, we would not have witnessed the gross cluelessness while attacking. There are no patterns instilled and players just do whatever they think is the best and considering the knobheads playing for us, most of the chances go down the drain.
- Put a passing move together
- Put pinpoint crosses to the CF, or atleast the CF never knows where to expect a cross
- Attack as a cohesive unit, meaning none of the front four actually knows whats going to happen next
You talk about Matic unable to pass the ball. Have you ever witnessed that majority except for Pogba never make themselves available for an easy pass? We have a coward in Lingard, and there are acres of space in our midfield whenever one of our midfielders has possession. This results in mostly diagonal passes, sideways or backward passing. We don't play with triangles. Again, easily seen that there is feck all coaching.
We aren't qualified to be coaches but we atleast have witnessed enough football to see if a team is playing with a plan. So keep the FM stuff to yourselves and stop insulting avid watchers of the game.
But I’m pretty sure you don't train on basic skills every week as a senior player. Its all included in other drills. Like patterns of play..
Im not sure how to respond to your view on patterns, as i don’t see it the same way. I am not as good as Enigma 87 (You know who) or you watching games and making analysis. I am to clouded with emotions and excitement watching a game live. So i usually have to sit down another time watching the game again, having some stats in front of me. If there are things i think are good or bad, i usually freeze frame and watch the details and movements. Maybe thats why I’m not in tune, or maybe I’m not that good understanding what so many think i obvious?
My opinion i could see those patterns of play against Chelsea, Wolves, Palace and Southampton. I could see what the team was trying to do, but also that it was work in progress.
Its those margins and timing Ole is talking about. Movements are a bit off, passes don't cut it etc.
But i could see it, and the pace in it wasn’t all bad. Like I’ve posted earlier, i can see the same problems at Inter, Juventus, Atletico etc. So far this season. Its those small details that make teams click. Like I’ve also posted, i believe things like this take time. Sometimes it doesn't, when for example Sarri has laid some good foundations for Lampard to go forward. Still a bit of work, but you know what i mean. Against Leicester i didn’t see it. I saw a good tactical approach with a limited available squad. In the games i saw Leicester earlier, they created chances, but not this time. They where completely nullified. I thought this was a sensible approach given the players available. I saw the same thought behind the game against West Ham. Problem was there was a big hole in midfield. Matic and Mata couldn’t move quick enough, so the entire team was unbalanced most of the match. That again forced the wingers covering to deep to compensate, leaving Rashford isolated. My God, the kid run himself to the ground! I cant believe people are even having a go at him for that. One poster was even complaining him closing the keeper, and a few posts later he was complaining about not pressing.
But, i only saw this game once, so my emotions might cloud my judgement. Mata had a really off game to his strength to - Passing. It stopped a lot of transition play. I really don't pay to much attention to cup games with b sides of the b side -other than watching youngsters. But i respect others to believe it is the world cup. Won both games by the way. But not even if i tried i could say anything about what goes on in training just because the rhythm in the team is off. I could complain he didn’t play Fred for Matic, but truth is i don't think it would make much difference.
Nice to see you agree with Ole! He said post West Ham exactly that about taking the easy options on passing. I agree with you both, but i also think players was isolated with that big hole in midfield against West Ham. Unbalance is a real bitch in football in my opinion. But you have what you have in material..
But again, i am not the one posting 6k post every day (You know who) on how bad coaching is and how bad the manager and club is at planning. Im just saying how fecking dumb it is to claim it because you have seen it on tv. Or NOT seen it as it goes..
I listened to the presser yesterday and I think Ole does a fair assessment. I agree with him from what i have seen. I read between the lines when he say he has invested in defense -that he is not happy with a lot of things. He even address the need to work on relationships and patterns during matches, and say how disruptive having key players out is for the process. Im sure there is over 1000 posts on here claiming they don't work on it in training. You have to admit, that is a pretty embarrassing claim!? There are a few more absolutely gold comments, but lets not..
I believe there is a lot of armchair managers here trying to play football experts on things none of us know anything about. And i think a lot of posts is beyond embarrassing and stupidity. That is fine, but when it goes from opinions and turn into anti manager propaganda, you are no longer a fan. You are a glory hunter. And I think a few of them posters on here are a bit weak. They can dish it out, but cant take it back. Call manager, coaches and players all sorts. But if someone call their post embarrassing, which they truly are, then its all cry baby. Calling him Gollum? That was class! Football fans are really going south..
But if i read your second post right. We can at least agree we have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. For all we know Pogba is pushed out of the team and there is a war going on. We just don't know. But if anything has been transparent it has been the need for building a dressing room. I think Ole would rather have an unbalanced squad than have forces within the team working against him. That would make this project impossible, and its still hard because you cant ditch them all at once. If learned anything, he learned that at Cardiff.
Or maybe it is just like Enigma 87(you know who) and a few very persistent posters says, they make millions, have years and years in football. Top education and top people around them, but they don't have the ability to plan ahead or coach. They don't know the easy basics the posters are talking about, and its all to obvious. Ole studying attacking play with SAF and Mulensteen as mentors before acing his exams made him an idiot. His time with Klopp and so on made him even more dumb. Not being able to make peace in a war zone Cardiff deprive him pedigree, and he looks like Gollum, not Yasser Arafat. Making a nothing Molde to a talent factory with some success in Europa league don't count for anything. Nothing that counts anyway. So sack him!
I remember reading about Oles exams for Pro License, and his collaboration with them professors who invented fitness training for the modern football game. He should know about both if he payed any attention. And for those who are wondering. No they do not run, run and run. They play football with very high intensity and have 30 minutes with 4x4 and squats after the main session..
We could go on, but whats the point..
But the worst thing about it all. There are a lot of posters on here hoping for a loss against Arsenal so they can keep feeding on negative energy and say i told you so. Such a depressing state of mind when watching football. And with the state of the squad, they will probably have the best of times monday and tuesday..
The project is exiting! Just watching AWB every game is a joy. But then again, i don't let the obvious fails get me down, naive as i am. Bit of a rant, i know. Enjoy the weekend!