Would they though? Because if say Poch took over and he did worse then top 4, i can imagine both this place and some sections on OT getting quite toxic if not outright hostile. Jose was a winner, he had charisma, he was a big name, he failed and he got sacked. Tuchell, Allegri and especially Pep and Klopp are completely unrealistic to take the job so i dont know why they are brought up all the time.
Yes, ye will get more time(say Poch) because people are aware of his style, his achievements and past record. If fans expect to win trophies under him of course that would be unrealistic off the bat, but I imagine most of our fans are well patient if there is a clear sign on the pitch and clear improvement in our game. Jose was a very controversial figure from the off. Even when he was hired there were plenty who disliked him. His personality also isn't one that would get along with everybody. An up and coming manager or one with a designated style IMO would get much more time compared to someone like Moyes or Ole and to me - rightfully so.
Nepotism? You make it sound like Ole and Ed are old mates. Have they even met before he was hired?
If Ole wasn't United legend he wouldn't have sniffed the United job.
Also, its kinda funny you mention Milan. Then had 8 managers since 2014, so clearly their method of changing managers all the time has not worked out to well has it? Same with Chelsea and to some extent Real Madrid. Now that the core of their team has crumbled up, i reckon the latter are in for some pretty lean years
Not just changing any managers. They are changing managers who aren't up to the task. They've changed 5-6 Ole's and it's clear that for a monumental rebuild job this type of manager doesn't work. How many Klopp's, or Pep's, or Tuchel's or Poch they have changed during that time? All those that they hired were poor managers and couldn't do the job.
I think everyone agrees the start of the season has been bad, but i think we all need to take a deep breath here and look at the bigger picture. We are in the middle of a massive rebuild here. The biggest since Fergie took over. Both the squad and idealy the entire apparatus around the club needs to be renewed and improved if we hope to get back on our feet and this takes time. More than 1 season.
Look mate, no one argues it's a big job, no one expects us to be in the title race this year. The problem I have with Ole/Moyes type of managers is that they will lead us to nowhere and they don't have the quality to do the rebuild - it's that simple. I have no problems getting behind a rebuild job under the right personnel. Based of what I know/seen of Ole - he isn't it. That's it.
This doesn't mean I'll moan if we don't get a Klopp or Pep type of manager, hell I've seen better things from Howe, who also isn't the type of manager that would lead us to success, but I believe a manager who can coach us and can instill some style in the players is the right step forward.
Pretty sure most of the fans think the same way.
The reason i am still cautiously optimistic is because Ole did well in the transfer window imo. He shipped out a lot of deadwood (something none of our former ones did) and his three incoming players have arguably been our best performers so far and they are all fairly young. That is the medicine we need right now. Get rid of all the pretenders and bad apples, get in some fresh faces with the right attitude and the skills to match, then the results will hopefully come.
Can also mention that if Ole had bought players in the twillight of their careers in some desperate attempt to clinch top 4, i would have wanted him gone yesterday.
But this is where the problem lies. Those three players have played handful of games and in more coherent sides(probably even James at Swansea last year). When results begin to sour and the overall quality of the team is low, along with morale, and their form drops 90% of the fans will come with the pitchforks and say those are deadwood as well.
A manager needs not only to understand the game but pass on his ideas, create some sort of style and ideology and also raise the level of those players. All the successful managers had that.
It's naive to think Ole is that man who will take us forward just because we let go of some of the poor players in our squad. It's not about releasing players but also replacing them without the overall level of the squad to drop to an extend we would hover around 8-10th and struggle to beat Rochdale at home.
