Picking two defenders shows that he didn't want to neglect other areas despite his priorities.
Which again shows that using Fergie as an example here is a bad one.
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Picking two defenders shows that he didn't want to neglect other areas despite his priorities.
Which again shows that using Fergie as an example here is a bad one.
All thanks to sentiment we are basically throwing away a great chance to get top 4 this season with Chelsea having their issues and our main competition looking like arsenal and Leicester for a 4th spot and we really shouldn't be fighting Any position with Leicester after buying supposedly their best defender and snubbing signing tielemans.
Every single United fan, YouTube vlogger and forum poster should read this. Pretty simple and straightforward when you apply just a little bit of common sense.
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Nope. Sorry. Mourinho had a plan to play a form of insanely effective football and set out to buy and integrate the players geared towards achieving that.
He was successful at it until the owners stopped putting gas in his car. There’s really no two ways about it.
Almost every ‘squad’ he’s left behind after his signature third season have actually gone on to be ridiculously dominating teams.
He was successful at it until the owners stopped putting gas in his car. There’s really no two ways about it.
Almost every ‘squad’ he’s left behind after his signature third season have actually gone on to be ridiculously dominating teams.
Mourinho was just as bad in his first season here but we gave him a pass as he had taken over from LVG's mess and we knew his 2nd season is usually much better than the first one.
There’s no doubt there’s quality lacking in that group of players but the United squad is still far superior to the likes of Southampton and Crystal Palace. If we have a manager in Ole that is unable to get the job done against teams of this caliber then what hope do we have that he will indeed eventually make us title contenders? Don’t forget, he made the decision to go with Lingard and Rashford.
How can anyone still defend him 
He is totally clueless!!!
No other club in the Premier League would want him as manager.......his level was Molde.
And i want to reverse my opinion about him of last week because i said "He has no game plan".....his game plan is "We need luck that our opponents are making sometimes mistakes".
3 wins out of the last 16 games!!! THREE WINS!!!
To bring on Matic and Lingard was already scandalous.
BUT....sent-off for Southampton in the 73rd minute and he has waited 9 feckin minutes to bring on another attacking player.....a good (not a great) would have made immediately a change.
I would accept such results and performances if he would give Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes, Chong or other young players some fair chances like Lampard at Chelsea.......but always Lingard, Mata, Matic & Young and in the next match probably Rojo & Jones.
I wouldn't cry for one second if he would be sacked tonight.
He is totally clueless!!!
No other club in the Premier League would want him as manager.......his level was Molde.
And i want to reverse my opinion about him of last week because i said "He has no game plan".....his game plan is "We need luck that our opponents are making sometimes mistakes".
3 wins out of the last 16 games!!! THREE WINS!!!
To bring on Matic and Lingard was already scandalous.
BUT....sent-off for Southampton in the 73rd minute and he has waited 9 feckin minutes to bring on another attacking player.....a good (not a great) would have made immediately a change.
I would accept such results and performances if he would give Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes, Chong or other young players some fair chances like Lampard at Chelsea.......but always Lingard, Mata, Matic & Young and in the next match probably Rojo & Jones.
I wouldn't cry for one second if he would be sacked tonight.
Determined, driven and ambitious in his ways of action. Unfortunately his outcome is based on mediocrity. He has viciously torn apart the team to build a group of yes man that - at best - have a 10% success rate at risky things that they attempt during a game. You can hype them up as much as you want but at the end of the day they are technicians that are just not that skilled at their job.
I mean, he didn't choose to spend that much on them. That's how much those two players - who were desperately needed - ended up costing.
Also, hate to say it, but for the richest clubs out there, £130m isn't that much. 50m is the new 30m was the new 15m logic.
Is there anything besides the selling of players that points to Ole eventually turning this around? Because the actual stats are damning and point to him being gone by Christmas.
All for positivity but the bolded bits are nonsense. I don't think many, if any were expecting a miracle turnaround. Most were hoping for progress, a lot actually predicted difficulties following our business. This brings me to the second point. What improvement has there been exactly?
We beat Chelsea. Brilliant. Then what? Drew to Wolves where we dominated possession but couldn't create anything. Lost to Palace at home. Drew to Southampton by virtue of a brilliant strike, oh and let's not forget they were down to 10 men for about 20 mins.
Wether he's had his hands tied by the Glazers we'll likely never know. What we do know is that we have lacked creativity for a while. We lost Fellaini who was a decent Plan B, and we lost Herrera. Two midfielders and we didn't replace either. We lost our main striker who admittedly wasn't very good but he wasn't replaced either.
I've seen no great progress in our creative/attacking play. What we have seen is more energy and pressing from the front. Does that qualify as an overall improvement? We are desperately short of attacking ideas and under Ole in the last three games (infact since PSG) we look like rank amateurs compared to other teams when it comes to our attacking play.
Ole was never the right man for the permanent job and he won't be here next season.
Ole isn’t a top class manager, that’s for sure. Jose and LvG are/where though and they didn’t do much better
I would because it would mean Ed and the Glazer's would be responsible of finding a replacement. Those clowns are the biggest issue. We will keep looking as clueless as we do on the field until they are replaced with people who can actually run a football club out of a performance based perspective rather than a money milking one. Fasten your seatbelt because the neanderthals will be here for quite a while yet.How can anyone still defend him
He is totally clueless!!!
No other club in the Premier League would want him as manager.......his level was Molde.
And i want to reverse my opinion about him of last week because i said "He has no game plan".....his game plan is "We need luck that our opponents are making sometimes mistakes".
3 wins out of the last 16 games!!! THREE WINS!!!
To bring on Matic and Lingard was already scandalous.
BUT....sent-off for Southampton in the 73rd minute and he has waited 9 feckin minutes to bring on another attacking player.....a good (not a great) would have made immediately a change.
I would accept such results and performances if he would give Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes, Chong or other young players some fair chances like Lampard at Chelsea.......but always Lingard, Mata, Matic & Young and in the next match probably Rojo & Jones.
I wouldn't cry for one second if he would be sacked tonight.
Back him. The expectation for anything significant is just absolutely gone for the next two years.
Consider the fact that even if you were to hire a manager that was maxed out, on cheat codes and was SAF, we would still not finish first. Liverpool and City are not going to flinch for the next 2-4 years.
We are shit. We will continue to be shit. Let Ole build whatever shit carved castle he wants in his sandbox.
Consider the fact that even if you were to hire a manager that was maxed out, on cheat codes and was SAF, we would still not finish first. Liverpool and City are not going to flinch for the next 2-4 years.
We are shit. We will continue to be shit. Let Ole build whatever shit carved castle he wants in his sandbox.
I respect your opinion but don't agree with a few things.
1. I really do hope that Ole finds the best fit but I don't think he will if he keeps making Rashford sound like a real talent which he isn't.
2. Failure to understand that Rashford and Martial were not going to be enough in the striker position (even if they were fit) makes me wonder if he's good enough to manage us
3. Pochettino may have not won trophies but we need a manager who can change his tactics and adapt when faced with adversity. We've been making the same mistakes with Ole and neither have the players or the management team learnt anything. We are already 7 points behind league leaders, Liverpool and it's only been 4 games.
Tbf that squad is unacceptable for Man Utd as well. Not seen a squad that bad in all my years as a Utd fan. Even when LvG gutted the squad players he at least had quality coming in to replace some of them.
Instead, Ole has had to sell the deadwood without getting adequate replacements for the vast majority, and that too while trying to fill in the holes of an already incomplete squad.
He's been massively dealt a bad hand, which no manager currently working would be able to deal with.
I think any manager would struggle with whats on top.
We needed a rebuild. We gave Ole a contract around May. Youre telling me we couldnt get one deal negotiated from that time until the window opened. The three signings we made, Ed negotiated, negotiated, negotiated, and then at the end, ended up paying asking price for all three. So why not just pay that to begin with and get them all in as early as possible (AWB, and james at least were there for pre-season).
We brought in three players in our rebuild. If were lead to believe there wasnt one or two other people out there available that would play for us, and be part of Ole / United vision, thats just BS.
The reason I bring this up is because Klopp came into Liverpool. he got Karius in goal. He flopped. Under United he would have been told to persist with him, Matip, Lovren and Caulker.
Klopp and Pep probably do better than Ole cos they are better managers. However it helped that they were backed too and made shrewd signings.
We needed a rebuild. We gave Ole a contract around May. Youre telling me we couldnt get one deal negotiated from that time until the window opened. The three signings we made, Ed negotiated, negotiated, negotiated, and then at the end, ended up paying asking price for all three. So why not just pay that to begin with and get them all in as early as possible (AWB, and james at least were there for pre-season).
We brought in three players in our rebuild. If were lead to believe there wasnt one or two other people out there available that would play for us, and be part of Ole / United vision, thats just BS.
The reason I bring this up is because Klopp came into Liverpool. he got Karius in goal. He flopped. Under United he would have been told to persist with him, Matip, Lovren and Caulker.
Klopp and Pep probably do better than Ole cos they are better managers. However it helped that they were backed too and made shrewd signings.
Horroristic stats. He had 30% at Cardiff.
That doesn’t mean we should stop employing top class managers because two didn’t do well. It’s madness.
Cheers mate.
He is just a terrible manager. I don't know why some are in denial.
We still look poor when we get pressed. Our patterns of play are often non-existent.
His in-game adjustments are terrible. Almost every 2nd half, we look much worse than our opponent. And he makes subs too late.
We still look poor when we get pressed. Our patterns of play are often non-existent.
His in-game adjustments are terrible. Almost every 2nd half, we look much worse than our opponent. And he makes subs too late.
That was the other poster making that point, I assume. You just said it was historically inaccurate and I pointed out it (largely) wasn’t.
Mourinho won two cups in his first season let not that get in your way.
He also didn’t have 3 wins in 16.
People saying it's knee jerk clearly have a blind spot for ole. It's not a couple of bad results. It's a terrible run of results. As someone pointed out, 13 points out of 48. 3 wins out of last 16. 16 games! How is that knee jerk? Had it been any other no name manager without the United legend tie in, anyone saying knee jerk would surely too be sitting on the other side of the fence.
He should play 4-1-4-1 imo. Put Matic as an anchor to shield the defence and to allow Maguire to push forward more often. Have Pogba and McTom as the LCM and RCM Rashford RW Greenwood LW and Greenwood CF. This cant do any worse than what we have now, a virtually toothless attack
I didn’t think he was the right man for the job, I still don’t rate him as a manager but unless the club are prepared to give a new manager £400m+ for a proper chance at a rebuild, then what’s the point?
Ole fits the bill for the club in terms of being cheap, undemanding and willing to spin positivity every week...no Mourinho style public tantrums. Club will say ‘patience with young and long-term rebuild’ and a lot of people will lap it up. Club is a mess, sacking Ole doesn’t change it.
Ole fits the bill for the club in terms of being cheap, undemanding and willing to spin positivity every week...no Mourinho style public tantrums. Club will say ‘patience with young and long-term rebuild’ and a lot of people will lap it up. Club is a mess, sacking Ole doesn’t change it.
It depends whether it’s part of a wider strategy. Whilst I agree it’s generally a good idea to get the best possible man for the job, sometimes it takes a certain tool to do a job
Let’s say we appointed Zidane or Pep tomorrow....do you think we would do significantly better? I’m not so sure. I think we would do a little bit better, maybe get to 3rd/4th....but after that they would get as frustrated, as fed up and disillusioned as LvG and Jose
As I have said elsewhere, I see Ole as a long term caretaker who will oversee this transition before making way for Poch in 36mnths time
We haven't won an away game since PSG away. Absolutely baffling.
Im still behind him. I knew this wasn't going to be a fast turn around. However, I do think he will reach his ceiling with us and we will need to bring someone else in to take us to the elite level again.
He should play 4-1-4-1 imo. Put Matic as an anchor (he wont have to move far so speed shouldnt come into it) to shield the defence and to allow Maguire to push forward more often. Have Pogba and McTom as the LCM and RCM Rashford RW James LW and Greenwood CF. This cant do any worse than what we have now, a virtually toothless attack
How can anyone still defend him
He is totally clueless!!!
No other club in the Premier League would want him as manager.......his level was Molde.
And i want to reverse my opinion about him of last week because i said "He has no game plan".....his game plan is "We need luck that our opponents are making sometimes mistakes".
3 wins out of the last 16 games!!! THREE WINS!!!
To bring on Matic and Lingard was already scandalous.
BUT....sent-off for Southampton in the 73rd minute and he has waited 9 feckin minutes to bring on another attacking player.....a good (not a great) would have made immediately a change.
I would accept such results and performances if he would give Greenwood, Tuanzebe, Garner, Gomes, Chong or other young players some fair chances like Lampard at Chelsea.......but always Lingard, Mata, Matic & Young and in the next match probably Rojo & Jones.
I wouldn't cry for one second if he would be sacked tonight.
Thank you. Someone who sees the real issue.
If you had to describe Ole in one word it would be "naive".
He's misplaced so much faith in players who are either not good enough or too inexperienced. I honestly have no clue what he thought we'd achieve this summer with the business we did. Many posters lay all the blame at Ed but there's no way we'd have such a mental window without Ole agreeing a majority of these deals. Any other manager loses their shit at losing Lukaku without replacing him but he has so much faith in Rashy and Mason which confirms his misplaced faith.
He's misplaced so much faith in players who are either not good enough or too inexperienced. I honestly have no clue what he thought we'd achieve this summer with the business we did. Many posters lay all the blame at Ed but there's no way we'd have such a mental window without Ole agreeing a majority of these deals. Any other manager loses their shit at losing Lukaku without replacing him but he has so much faith in Rashy and Mason which confirms his misplaced faith.
Mourinho finished 6th in his first season which is were I expect us to finish this year.
Sure he won two cups but that doesn't wash away the mediocre league campaign he had.
Umm... what? After his second spell at Chelsea he turned them into a Europa league club. He put together an effective albeit aging Inter squad, squeezed every last drop out of them, won what he wanted and fecked off. Inter has not won a trophy since.
Can't sack him without losing face.
It's been 6 months since he's been appointed as perm manager, not even a full year since Mourinho was sacked.
But then again who could we get to replace him?
It's been 6 months since he's been appointed as perm manager, not even a full year since Mourinho was sacked.
But then again who could we get to replace him?
You can never sack a manager without losing face. Has to be done when it has to be done
The board won't back Ole sufficiently for "Rome to be built". Best we can hope for is Roma to be built.
Due to our under investment and poor management choices.Which is why he got the next year(2 cups and CL qualification).
If he didn’t he most probably would have been sacked and rightfully so.
He'll be sacked at some point.
Probably December like Jose.
Probably December like Jose.
Thanks, basically this is what came to my mind from Fergie's autobiography.
We're in an era of fickle, instant gratification supporters.
Ole didn't create our problems the last 6 years, so why he is being hounded and folks calling for his head is absolutely mind boggling.
There is a complete disconnect between reality and expectation. People expect Solskjaer to pretty much challenge City and Liverpool and win every game with a team that most would expect to finish somewhere between 4th and 8th.
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