You keep mentioning these 3 he missed, what about the 9 he's scored for us?
I'm not even going there with the 2nd statement.
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I'm not even going there with the 2nd statement.
5th worst conversion rate in PL history.
Not really bothered by that, he'll take more pens by the time the seasons out and will win us games by doing so.
As Jacob said. He has one of the worst penalty conversions in PL history.
Rashford is yet to miss one and took an excellent one just last week. For some reason they are rotated. Go figure.
Rashford earned himself the right to take all penalties when he scored the crucial one away to PSG.
And like I said, I'm not bothered as he'll take more by the time the seasons out and will win us games by doing so.
I've figured it, you haven't. Pogba was confident in taking the penalty after having won it. He missed, life goes on.
The main thing is we get 3 points against Southampton.
4 points from 2 tricky games. Not a bad start is it. Now the expected-wins need to be won.
Naive shit after half time.
Late substitutions again. (Kills me)
Not having a designated penalty taker is pretty much just amateur.
Late substitutions again. (Kills me)
Not having a designated penalty taker is pretty much just amateur.
He shouldn't take one, let alone more by the time the season is out.
And we're playing Palace next.
A manager can't make basic decisions about what happens on the pitch, like who takes the penalties? Is that what you're saying?It doesnt make sense as you can't read.
I asked you "how do you know he didn't decide" I then said "what can he do if the players decided themselves" He can't make the decisions on the pitch. Its up to players. What if Ole says rashford is the taker but players then go by their gut feeling and decide to take.
Anyways Ole confirmed both are designated penalty takers and they decide who will take it.
It's not even the first time, we had different penalty takers in the same game. Odd thing to complain. With so much to analyze, so many posts on fecking penalty taker
Apparently, yes. Struggle to think a single example of other club managed like that - having multiple "designated" penalty takers on the pitch calling the shots.
For top 4 this is a good result but if we are hoping to win the title then it is 2 points dropped. Win against palace and Southampton then it is a good start for us and this will be a wonderful point.
Put it another way. we are 3 points better off than last season against Chelsea home and Wanderers away, so thats a gain.
And no one should. That is why I said our goal should be top 4 this season (sadly) and for that this is a good point. The irritating part is we could have won and that's what frustrates us.
Wolves really are very good. So that’s some comfort. Although, depressingly, with the likes of Wolves getting as good as they are, it just makes Ole’s job even harder. It might well take a year or two to build a team capable of winning the league but if that process involves Wolves, Everton and Leicester reaching the same level as us then he won’t be given the time he obviously needs.
First off. A draw vs Wolves is a good result. Any top six team would be happy with an away draw vs Wolves, and I’d add Leicester..
Performance, I don’t think was that great tbh. We lack control in the centre of the pitch.
Danial James isn’t currently a 90 min man, his someone who should be given 20 mins here and there and slowly groomed into the team if time shows he’s good enough.
We need 3 cm’s vs teams like City, Spurs, etc otherwise we’re gonna get battered.
Don’t think Ole is adaptive enough to what’s going inplay as the game changes during its various stages. I don’t just mean by subs, but simple formation changes like for example beginning of 2nd half Wolves were battering us because they had more numbers in the middle.
Have no idea why the club didn’t try signing Neves. Not just saying that because of his goal today, been saying that all summer.
Performance, I don’t think was that great tbh. We lack control in the centre of the pitch.
Danial James isn’t currently a 90 min man, his someone who should be given 20 mins here and there and slowly groomed into the team if time shows he’s good enough.
We need 3 cm’s vs teams like City, Spurs, etc otherwise we’re gonna get battered.
Don’t think Ole is adaptive enough to what’s going inplay as the game changes during its various stages. I don’t just mean by subs, but simple formation changes like for example beginning of 2nd half Wolves were battering us because they had more numbers in the middle.
Have no idea why the club didn’t try signing Neves. Not just saying that because of his goal today, been saying that all summer.
We outclassed wolves today Pogue. It took a worldie to even draw against us. On another day and without Jesse fecking Lingard, we win that game 3-0...
I think we're a long way ahead of where even Ole thought we might be.
What we need to work on is the decision making in the final third. That is going to kill us this year if we dont start making the right decisions. Shaw, Rashford and McTominay are all a bit headless in that regard.
Im incredibly pleased by Dan James. Boy is not a kick and chase merchant. There is a technically gifted footballer in there and he's going to pin alot of better teams back if they try to attack.
Why leave our “most natural finisher” on the bench and only give him 2 mins when you’ve got shite like lingard air kicking a simple shot.
Sure, but in the grand scheme of things a draw away to Wolves isn't a terrible point, and you can definitely make the top 4 with results like that. They're honestly a horrible side to play.
Obviously I get the frustration (I am the worst for that!) but at the end of the day, they're no mugs, and especially early season it can be hard to find the fluidity to break down an organised defence.
Once the annoyance from the penalty miss ebbed away I was able to look at tonight for what it was.
Pretty decent performance and a decent point.
Not bad.
He will, dont worry!
Thanks for the correction, let's hope we get 3 points vs Palace and Southampton!
Wolves are average, tonight shows that. Their "great" midfield was dominated by us, they're average in attack and defence. We threw away 3 points on 5 minutes of their play tonight. Wolves are 7th at best. We played well but tonight was a failure because Wolves were their level (average to below average). PS: anyone dreaming of Neves, he is incredibly average apart from a nice shot. He'd be a waste of 60 plus million.
Don't disagree with any of that. If we get 6 points from our next 2 games then it would be a wonderful start. Especially with arsenal playing liverpool and you guys we will see some dropped points. Very important from United perspective to get 6 points from the next 2 games.
Realistic is for clubs who lose, United is all about coming back from the hardest challenges and win again.
Also, Ole needs to convince the team that they can win, and only that is going to make them move forward.
It's 2 pts lost, and it's disappointing, the team needs to come back with more victories from now on.
I think you’re dead wrong about Wolves.
I really do like some of the things that he's done/doing at the club and 4 points in two tricky opening games is pretty damn good, especially with the next two fixtures we've got next which are very winnable.
I think however, he'll need to switch things around more eventually with the midfield and we might end up back with the old 4-3-3, especially in certain games. I think Wolves were quite happy to sit off for periods and I don't think they pressed our defenders all that much. Not convinced by the Mctom and Pogba partnership at all despite both of them being very good players in their own right.
I think however, he'll need to switch things around more eventually with the midfield and we might end up back with the old 4-3-3, especially in certain games. I think Wolves were quite happy to sit off for periods and I don't think they pressed our defenders all that much. Not convinced by the Mctom and Pogba partnership at all despite both of them being very good players in their own right.
This doesn't mean anything. It's empty chest beating.
All clubs set realistic expectations and overreacting to results doesn't help anybody. Obviously you want to win every game and there's things to improve on, but this isn't some hugely disappointing result for a top 4 challenging side, which is what you are whether you want to accept that reality or not.
Aye, should be 6 points. Palace don't look that good so far and Soton are a very inconsistent team.
It should I agree, what's done is done from tonight. Beat the next 2 and we're not looking too bad.
I used to have a mate who would win penalties and was very very confident in taking them.
We were confident too... Confident that he'd miss.
We were confident too... Confident that he'd miss.
If they were ready, OGS would had put them on the field. I don't think they've done enough to give the manager confidence.
Doing great so far. Has a clear system in place and has cleared out a lot of deadwood. Has made spot on signings too. Give him a couple more windows and we’ll be good.
Only concern is his approach to today. He mentioned training was eased off this week and tactical training was increased. You could tell in the first 20 minutes almost all our players were missing a bit of sharpness. We should have killed them off in the first half.
Back to the drawing board regarding training management this week. He learned last season the consequences of horrible load management now he’s going to do it again.
Only concern is his approach to today. He mentioned training was eased off this week and tactical training was increased. You could tell in the first 20 minutes almost all our players were missing a bit of sharpness. We should have killed them off in the first half.
Back to the drawing board regarding training management this week. He learned last season the consequences of horrible load management now he’s going to do it again.
I understand where you're coming from but I seen nothing tonight from them. We played alright and dominated them at their home. We aren't all that and I can't see them higher than 7th. I reckon Everton will become more of an issue over the year, maybe Leicester too. Honestly we threw away 3 points today even without the penalty.
Yeah makes sense
This is an interesting comment. You need to play experience even if they are poor and offer nothing to the side... sure. Play the experienced players who can offer something. That isn't Lingard.
Play Mata instead, play Fred in a 3 instead. If you want a mobile 10 then play the better player (Gomes)
You cannot complain about lack of quality if you ignore the quality you have due to age.
They have probably done more than enough but at the end of the day in greenwoods case especially they are indeed only kids. Wolves would have chopped em in half
I also have hopes on Greenwood, but with such a messy game in tactical terms it could be a two edge substituion.
Realistic result for United is to win, yes.
A team like United needs to tell players they are there to win, no matter what happened last season, because the truth is, the 15 games result was what should have kept happening until the end of the season. It did not, fine, but players need to be motivated again. That's how Ole sees United anyway, and that's the mental strength that players will need to believe in themselves. Once confidence is back, anything is possible.
So that's not empty chest beating.
You always must aim higher. Of course that City is no1 favourite but accepting battle for 4th from day one as our goal is unacceptable
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