We would look completely amateurish if we sacked Solskjaer now, and any self respecting manager wouldn't touch us if we did. We made the decision to appoint Solskjaer, now we have to back him and hope his vision for the club is enough to get us out of this mess.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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2 games to go is not the same as a full season, Moyes had proved to be a failure thats why he was cut short. The same should happen to Ole.
You don’t need experts to realize that a couple of transfer windows won’t do much for Ole. How with the same players was he able to win at first and then play so shitty? It’s about managment as well, we can agree we don’t have an squad to win the league, but I think we can also agree we have the squad to play way better than this.
I agree, they weren't fit enough to deal with it.
We'll look even more amateurish when we inevitably sack him after a terrible season next season.
the Norwegian David Moyes
In all honesty Moyes is a more proven and probably better manager than Ole
Well he did have to cancel his membership in a Liverpool fan club when signed for us as a player. That’s right. Solskjaer was/is such a dedicated Liverpool fan he paid to be a member of a Norwegian Liverpool fan club.
https://www.liverpool.no/nyheter/20...i-supporterklubben-er-mourinhos-etterfoelger/
FFS, sack him? No, he's just started. How stupid is internet?
I didn’t realise all those fans were able to see into the future? Some power that.
If you want to hold the players responsible for this poor form, surely they deserve credit for that 3rd place in that useless table you keep posting?
Oh i agree 100%. I've been saying it myself for this long! Absolute joke that these lot continue to stick around. And Jones gets a contract extension, too. I mean, who's making that fecking decision? Was that Ole? Someone else at the club? Ed?
No idea, but it's a joke. They're simply not good enough and it's genuinely worrying that nobody at the club can see it.
This is actually a terrible way to look at things. Plenty of our fans thought Brendan Rodgers was a great manager after 13/14, and also thought Klopp was a dud who couldn't build a defence after his first one. All those quotes tell you is that we're in dire form, something we don't need RAWK to figure out for us, and something we were in before Solskjaer even got here.
Woodward and co botched it horribly.
Our next season could be worse than the current one/Moyes one.
I really really hope Ole proves me wrong, but I can't shake the feeling that we'll have a terrible window and we'll continue this awful run of form a bit into next season.
Our next season could be worse than the current one/Moyes one.
I really really hope Ole proves me wrong, but I can't shake the feeling that we'll have a terrible window and we'll continue this awful run of form a bit into next season.
It is both no doubt. I guess some people think the players can improve under a better manager. Other that the manager can improve with better players. I say both is possible.
Ideally we would bring in a better manager that could help us attract better players. Also get better owners and a better CEO than Woodward so we can spend much better in the market.
Without changing the owners or the owners start wanting to win things as first priority then I think it will be hard for us to really get out of the decline we are in.
I’m also feeling this way.
So a full season with a pre season/2 transfer windows. Those 2 games don't make a difference as he had ample time to prepare during the pre season and had 2 transfer windows to strengthen his team, thats a full season regardless if he failed or just got sacked for being a moron.
To win with them shows more or loosing with them show more?
The point is i'm not sure they've fixed anything yet. Real without Ronaldo (and with others ageing) aren't the same, regardless who is manager.
I'm not sure the manager has all the power in transfers at Real. I would say i've got some faith in Ole and Phelan to recruit what this squad needs as long as they are backed.
I think the incompetence of the decision makers at United has been truly exposed post Jose. It would be even harder to attract top managers now, given the lack of footballing vision and squad quality. And that is before you consider that the man in charge allegedly called us 'an adult Disneyland' while pitching us to Klopp.
I don't think we can get Poch the way things are. I don't think managers like who can actually rebuild our side will take up the responsibility unless the structure or the squad is fixed to an extent.
And therefore, despite the bipolar-esque extremes we've seen from Ole's side since he took over, I think he should be backed because he seems to have a good idea of who should stay and who definitely shouldn't. Let him take the first step of stopping the rot. And back him through it.
I don't think we can get Poch the way things are. I don't think managers like who can actually rebuild our side will take up the responsibility unless the structure or the squad is fixed to an extent.
And therefore, despite the bipolar-esque extremes we've seen from Ole's side since he took over, I think he should be backed because he seems to have a good idea of who should stay and who definitely shouldn't. Let him take the first step of stopping the rot. And back him through it.
For real? cant be true
Why exactly?
Guys, there is no chance in hell he's as bad as moyes.
All you need to do is to go onto Google images and type in Steve round and you will remember everything.
All you need to do is to go onto Google images and type in Steve round and you will remember everything.
“Knows the club”
“Legend”
“Needs his own players”
“Won the Norwegian League”
“He’s here so might as well support him”
“http://solskjaertabellen.com/”
He has HORRIBLY failed at his job after sacking Jose.
If our owners cared about football success, they would have demoted/sacked him too after how he handled this situation.
Oh Ok then. fecking sack him ffs
. Yeah, that sums it upHe has such a tough job, I don't think he's capable of getting it right
Many of these players will still be here next season. Some people are clinging on to this being fitness related. I hope they're right. He hasn't shown enough for me to halt this losing run or have any semblance of control.
I expected to see "out of his depth" comments about Christmas next season. I really didn't see this bad run continuing and so we're seeing them already.
I'm willing to see what happens. It's going to be doubly hard attracting players. This run from the outside looks very bad to future prospects.
Many of these players will still be here next season. Some people are clinging on to this being fitness related. I hope they're right. He hasn't shown enough for me to halt this losing run or have any semblance of control.
I expected to see "out of his depth" comments about Christmas next season. I really didn't see this bad run continuing and so we're seeing them already.
I'm willing to see what happens. It's going to be doubly hard attracting players. This run from the outside looks very bad to future prospects.
Why does he get credit for the winning run?
I don't know about that.
People keep mentioning this.
There's only De Gea and Valencia(Jones, Smalling and Jones too) who played under Moyes.
It's not the same players.
We're on our worst run of form since the 60's or whatever it is.
If we need 11 world class players with Ole under the helm to beat Huddersfield and Cardiff, then it's hopeless even employing him.
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I think we let every former United player who wants to, have a crack at managing the side for a month. Put all the names into a hat and at the beginning of each month, pull a name out and let them have at it.
It couldn't be any worse than what's happening at the moment, we would get a new manager bounce every four weeks and eventually, we're going to get to watch Roy Keane get his hands on some of these players.
Everyone's a winner!
It couldn't be any worse than what's happening at the moment, we would get a new manager bounce every four weeks and eventually, we're going to get to watch Roy Keane get his hands on some of these players.
Everyone's a winner!
Real Madrid would have sacked him by now.
We'll stick with him and likely experience another poor season. Pressure will mount and once top 4 becomes unattainable, Woodward will pull the plug or Ole will step down.
And we'd have lost yet another season.
The guy almost everyone wants was allowed to get rid of the deadwood and mercenaries at Spurs when he took over them, and United 'fans' admire him for that yet they cant afford to give the same luxury to Ole when many people know there are many players in the sqaud that need to be got rid of, asap.
Our fanbase are bizarre sometimes...
Our fanbase are bizarre sometimes...
Well people must have got very short memory. He did win alot of games and was on amazing run from late Dec to early March, but then he did also loss alot of games in last 2 months. At the end, I don't think anyone would have expect him doing better job before he took over in Dec, but again, of course no one would expect him to do any worst after his appointment to full time manager back in March. What I am saying is, its not fair to judge him base on this half season alone, there are highs and lows, point is the mess is already there before he took over, there's nothing else he could do.
I think calling for him to be sacked for not creating a cohesive style of play with this group of players in 5 months is a bit ridiculous to be honest. How can that be done when there's zero cohesion to the squad itself? It's a mish-mash of 4 different managers' squads, who all had different ideas of how they wanted to play. I think Pep would even struggle to get them playing effectively as a unit. Especially when the only players with any real quality can't even be arsed trying.
And if we did sack him, what manager in their right mind would want to come in and replace him, knowing that not getting anything out of this shitshow will get you kicked out the door?
And if we did sack him, what manager in their right mind would want to come in and replace him, knowing that not getting anything out of this shitshow will get you kicked out the door?
Appart from the results it’s the way we are playing, are you seriously confident that with time and a couple of signings this will get better?
We have no indication that this will get better and still Ole’s attitude has changed, at the beginning he was ruthless saying things like “the survival of the fittest” “I will be successful here and not all the players will be here to witness it” and now it has changed to “we have to be where we are at the moment” “we are to far from the top 2” “we played well but it wasnt good enough”.
He has realized he is out of his depth so now he is lowering his expectations so he can keep the jon longer. It’s clear as watter, as time goes by he seems weaker and weaker.
He gets the all credit for the winning run momentum and a contract, but its all the players fault now cant even beat fecking Cardiff at home.
These are his actual words on Norwegian television a couple of years ago:
Just put that into Google Translate. Essentially he confirms that:
1. He ”switched teams” from Liverpool to United when he started playing for us.
2. He was still a member of the Liverpool fan club when he was a player for us.
Demote him to assistant and hire the Ajax manager.
I’m not clicking the link but please have we really become so pathetic already? Club legend, winner of the treble and we are coming out with this crap? No matter who or what he is- back the manager, support him and give him all we’ve got. We’ve had the experienced ones, the famous ones and the past it ones but at least this ones knows what it’s all about and has earned fan respect if nothing else. Let’s get behind him cos undermining him is as much as a problem as Woodward and all the other rubbish going on at board level
Any other profession and he'd be shown the door. Any non-former United player would also be sacked tomorrow. We're incompetent so you'd expect a new 6 year deal tomorrow.
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