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Eh?One bad performance and everyone loses all sense of reason. We are talking about Ole Gunnar Solskaer here folks, the guy is a gem . Keep the faith., loads of points on offer.
How crap are Leeds that we pumped them twice in 2 seasons?
As @FootyGirl88 post just showed, Leeds fans are having a go with Ole's at the wheel in their game against Arsenal too. Clearly our rival fans are enjoying this situation.Yeah exactly and don't be surprised if other rivals join in on the fun as well
top bit is being sarcastic.
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I can guarantee the away support will chant Ole’s name for 90 mins on SaturdayThey weren't on Sunday it was all coming from the scousers
Wish there was a way to quantify this because it’s definitely something I’d be betting againstI can guarantee the away support will chant Ole’s name for 90 mins on Saturday
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Frustrated with the recent results and the negativity surrounding the club, but since it seems Ole will continue as manager (at least for the near future) I will be supporting him hoping that he can then things around. Let’s see how the players react also
Hiddink unretired a few days ago. Said he'd be open to a job if it didn't involve day to day training on the pitch.He retired last month.
Assistant manager of Australia.What's Rene Meulensteen up to these days?
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Honestly can't believe Ole saw it fit to bring back Phelan and not the actual coach of our old sides. The man didn't want to succeed from the beginning. Did he really think McKenna was enough?Assistant manager of Australia.
playing with 2 "dm's'" is playing it safe. Ole's tactics are basically pass the ball forward and hope on some brilliant move by an attacking player. The rest of the team sits back.
Problem is, it's still very very leaky in the back.
And is a pretty poor pundit, I'd say.Mark Ogden works for ESPN.
I don't speak Arabic but i was able to translate the laughs at the end. "hahahaha."Yep, Arabic is my first language. Real indeed.
Seriously, have you watched any United lately? Ole was already playing to not lose instead of trying to win. Making defensive subs when we're down, playing with the so called reliable midfield pairing.Seriously,you watch that and this is what you see?
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So are you saying this is Carrick and McKenna vs Klopp? What chance have we got?
I really don't think that's the case at all. I've also voiced concerns over Carrick and McKenna as I don't think they should be here. I know we don't see behind the scenes, but we can see what's happening on the pitch and it isn't good enough. So it's not all on Ole. But I also think that saying, or asking the question, is it down to the fact that they can't implement his style, is giving Ole a bit too much credit.
Also, if that was the case, why hasn't he rectified that? He's going into his 4th season, surely he would have addressed the issue of his caches not being able to implement his specific style by now?
Ole clearly does 1,2 and 4 as outlined by you the same way Sir Alex used to however he, unlike Sir Alex seemingly can't find folks good enough to do 3. He clearly wants us to play on the front foot with width and pace. He's signed the players he thinks can do it and his man management has been claimed to be quality.In response to your final point, perhaps he's willing to give them time? I suspect he'll prefer to stay loyal to the current coaches, given their past connections to the team, rather than look for another coach.
As I see it, a manager has four main areas to oversee:
1) man management
2) instilling footballing philosophy, and integrate into tactical preparation
3) coaching players to fit with point 2)
4) finding players that can be coached to fulfil point 2)
Managers can outsource parts 3 and 4, but needs to be in charge of at least parts 1 and 2. Most managers seem to do 1), 2), and 3). By all accounts, Ferguson did 1), 2), and arguably 4).
Ole's man management seems to me to be his forte. His tactical acumen is open to debate because we simply don't know from our position whether his footballing vision is poor, or whether he has good awareness but has coaches that are struggling to implement it. I think most would agree that we have decent players who ought to be able to follow instructions. People might point to Phelan and say he ought to know what to do, but apparently he also doesn't take charge of training. If Ole were sacked, would the next manager keep hold of the current first team coaches? Very unlikely. As Neville would put it, we need the 'best in class' coaches to let a relative novice manager focus on points 1) and 2), and we need Fletcher and Murtough to be brilliant at 4). That's the only way our performances can gain some kind of consistency. In my opinion...
What narrative am I creating? Unless every single news report is lying, my statement is correct. The only hyperbole is the last part of my question. The only narrative being constructed is this notion that Ole wouldn’t do anything to harm the club and he’d have the decency to step down if he thought he was, because we’ve seen feck all evidence of that.
my whole chakra system destroyed. my whole feng shui all fecked up.
Ole will not find peace on this earth and snakes will manifest in his living room for what he's doing to me. I'm stressed.
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We have become 1980s Leeds.Jesus Christ. Martin Edwards is there too.
We know how this is gonna end. It worked for Fergie, so it will work for Ole, just give him another three years.
We are a pathetic joke of a club. The worst run club in modern football.
Leeds laugh at Ole yet he's run rings round their one trick pony for two seasons now, with a goal deficit that is laughable.
Pipe down Leeds, you've been the easiest guaranteed 3 points we've had in decades.
Eh? I'm just pointing out the obvious. If Ole is an embarrassment in their view what does that say about their guy.I respect your desire to go down with this sinking ship
You’ve got a week left and you can pretend you never backed him and he wasn’t the best manager since Fergie.