How can you be sure? He's got a smile on his face. You should be outraged.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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How can you be sure? He's got a smile on his face. You should be outraged.
So you'd have preferred Ole to throw a hissy and completely compromise our season out of spite to The Glazers even at the cost of having a good season with an imperfect but good team? That's an extremely selfish and short sighted way of thinking.
If Ole cant find a way of getting the best out of a ST that's scored 101 goals in 134 games for Juve or get this good team playing well it's on him
wow
This is getting ridiculous now. Turning on CR7 already & now claiming players such as Sancho/Ronnie/Varane won’t respect Ole (despite signing for him) beggers belief
The highs of getting knocked out of the CL groups, losing the europa final, losing to Liverpool at home when we could have kept them out of the CL, losing 6-1 at home to spurs.
The good old days eh.
Bizarre take given there are so many things to criticise.
Again, if he was not smiling, would you be happier?
No, because the players obviously work with him everyday and we are not seeing any bad intentions from them right now as we were with Jose, and LVG second season or Moyes?
The smiling in this instance was Ole giving instructions, a thumbs up and smiling.
My bigger concerns are how open we are at conceding chances, how brain dead our players are for not bringing down and stopping a counter attack (you can bet City and Liverpool would have).
Also the lack of tempo and intensity at times and how it often needs us falling behind for the same set of players to increase. Is that down the management? Maybe. But weve seen so many times how it takes us conceding before the same set with no changes suddenly start realising they need to play faster and move quicker, etc
Ole smiling or giving somebody a thumbs up on the 90th minute of a game were drawing is so small
I kept saying it back then. Something was just of towards how we kept winning, but played so badly. It didn't make sense to me then as we didn't have as much talent as we had then that we had now. Bruno, pogba carried us then with their amazing individual performance and I expect Ronaldo or Sancho along with those two to carries us now. But, it seems like at the moment, we are just bunch of individual without any pattern of play.
You look at how Pochettino is managing Psg. Their star players in mbabbe, neymar and Messi are barely contributing. It is their average midfield players like gueye and Herrera, and fullback in hakimi who are carrying the team. That shows good coaching as when the top players are not performing, other members of the team won't be affected as much. If Bruno or Ronaldo has a bad day, we play worse than shite.
£441 million over 2.5 years to be exact according to the media Link
Don't forget the vibes
Imagine giving him Everton or Leeds. He would be in relegation battle
Yes, you do.
I am now starting to ask questions for the first time. We should be creating and defending much better with the players at his disposal. Yes, he's done a lot of good commendable work but the team should now be clicking.
It says something when we're not confident or even comfortable against lesser teams at Old Trafford.
It says something when we're not confident or even comfortable against lesser teams at Old Trafford.
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Nice guy, ex player, legend, everyone loves him.
Not a top manager though. We need to be ruthless right now, otherwise the trophy drought will continue. With the attacking talent he got in his disposal we should be putting 3 past Everton at least.
Not a top manager though. We need to be ruthless right now, otherwise the trophy drought will continue. With the attacking talent he got in his disposal we should be putting 3 past Everton at least.
Well even if he is doing it behind closed doors it's not working is it?
Ronnie and Varane are serial winners and I doubt they will keep their mouth shut if we are only fighting for Top 4 or playing in the Europa League after failing to come out of our CL group.
Leeds are in a relegation battle arguably
So we just carry on playing god knows what style of football, winning feck all etc etc. We might as well stuck with Moyes then with that attitude. He will always be a legend for his playing career here. That doesnt make him a good manager.
When you think about it what player, Charlton Stiles Robson Ince Hughes Bruce etc has ever gone on to be a good manager from Utd? Ole just one in a long line of them.
Wonder when we will out an end to this? Clearly not of the required quality
Has hit the glass ceiling and will be gone sooner or later. Real shame as it would have been great if a legend would have brought us back to the top.
I am genuinely in hysterics at the fact you see not getting the best out of your star players as a positive
Oh and I watched your PSG team get torn apart for 60 minutes at Brugges. They’re every bit as unbalanced as we are and no fluke win against city changes that.Why is it only for Manchester United that sacking solves nothing?
Works great for Chelsea. Liverpool had to sack a million managers to get it right.
Why would we stick with the manager with the worst credentials who wouldn't get another job in the Prem?
To Oles credit he built a great squad that he can't get anything good out of. Let's give a good manager this squad
We have 4 tough fixtures coming up and I expect borefests and negative tactics against good teams. I think I’ve seen enough to know ole won’t challenge for the title. The CL we will scrape the KO stages with a bit of luck. Worryingly I can’t see us putting together a run of wins like we have previously.
You dont have to imagine e.g his Cardiff stint. Couldnt nagivate even the Championship without huge financial backing.
thank god we prematurely gave him a new contract. We never learn.
He won't be sacked, we're Vibes FC now and sacking a club legend no matter how he poor he is at his job isn't good vibes..
Aston Villa did under 2 weeks ago. It’s no way near good enough, we know it and so does ole.
Actually, the longer it goes on the more I think sacking Moyes was not necessarily the best idea we’ve had. Probably appointing him was the big mistake but I wouldn’t be surprised if we were in a better position now if we’d stuck with him. Who knows. But I just don’t think sacking the manager is the shortest route to improvement.
Because a squad with Ronaldo, Varane, Rashford, Sancho, Pogba, Bruno, Greenwood, Maguire, Cavani, Shaw and De Gea is terrible and no manager could have them play better than this.
Why does it work for other clubs then? You just can't stick with a manager if its clearly not working, if there's not been signs of improvement over multiple seasons why would you not sack them? Times have changed and Ole is not Sir Alex Ferguson
Liverpool sacked Rodgers 6 months after he legitimately had them in a title race. They saw a better option available and sentiment went out of the window - they went on to become quite good.
Simply, no... Moyes was by far the worst of them all
Is a weak excuse Solskjaer has a world class squad at his disposal. Most world class teams has always had an area of weakness. Sometimes a manager has to make use of the resources available in the pursuit of obtaining what is needed.
Klopp the manager who got to a UCL final with Wjnaldum, Milner and Henderson in midfield how well balanced would these individuals look under Ole's management. Solskjaer is quickly proving the narrative as seen at Madrid before Zidane, not everyone can achieve success just because of the individual quality of a team. Ole has showed minimal progression in the assessment of the teams capacity to execute good performances. You can give Solskjaer Rice and whatever flavour of the month surname, it's not going to change the fundamental poor dynamics of the team such as lack of movement, lack of cohesion, slow starts, falling behind in games etc.
Everything even when going well with Ole is an uphill struggle the team rarely looks composed because the manager has no philosophy. The criteria of criticism is raised this season, this is Ole's third season and he's already bottling it.
Yep.
It should be clicking to a much more obvious extent.
We all know that we could do with a (central/defensive) midfielder on the same level as our best attackers - that's bloody obvious. But that isn't an excuse for not getting more out of what he has at his disposal.
Today should've been three points. Everton were weakened. We can't drop points at home against that kind of opposition. If he can't sort out how to overcome - again - that kind of opposition with the personnel available to him...then serious questions have to be asked.
What do you think would work then?
I have said before if he got some top coaches around him, instead of novices we would be in a much better position. He doesnt even need to sack Carrick and McKenna, just reposition them in the coaching staff.
They sacked loads of managers for 20 years.
WHY DOES OLE NEED TO REMAIN? I find it so strange how this is always suggested.
Yes I’m all for that.
They haven’t clicked yet, due to lack of playing time and also features in their game that makes it harder to click. I am confident that eventually, Pochettino will have them playing well together if no injuries happens. Psg had the better chances against Brugge, even the xg stat favored psg. If MNM was firing on all cylinder they would have easily won that game. Against city, it was a good tactical display on how to counter city. That approach worked as they got a clean sheet and a two goal victory, which is hard to come by against one of the best team in Europe at the highest stage.I am genuinely in hysterics at the fact you see not getting the best out of your star players as a positive
Ole will hang on for quite some time yet, regardless of whether we have a upturn in form.
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