No, we don't actually.
Unless you're prepared to judge him on the measly 4 months he has been in charge of a team that is not his own.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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No, we don't actually.
Unless you're prepared to judge him on the measly 4 months he has been in charge of a team that is not his own.
Are we going to blame this on players again? Come one we don't need Messis to play well against this team? We don't look like a coached team at all. Just some random players trying flashy skills and touches.
And I thought, however bad we are, we can still score 4 against them
And I thought, however bad we are, we can still score 4 against them
Half a year is a decent amount of time to see if someone is clueless at his job or not. I think Ole is. Giving a rebuilding job to him is going to be a costly mistake, yet again. You don't need to be a "multi-millionaire business owner who has experience at hiring and firing at the very top of your company" to see that.
Either way you slice it, it comes back to the players for this point in time. If you actually think about it, from the trouble Mourinho has earlier in the season, to the better performances under Ole initially, to now - the idea this is down to coaching alone is nonsense.
They do look knackered all the fecking time they play though. Whether it's fitness or lack of effort, I don't care - it's just a fact.
Fitness has been discussed before. It's obviously lacking, and it's not the fault of Solskjaer or the players.
Then what the hell are we doing on here lol? This is a platform made for people to make judgements.
It's actually for discussion. People can include judgements but don't complain if they're rightly called out for having zero authority.
Playing with 9 men would be better.
Really? United players are walking against Huddersfield right now. You think this is down to them not being fit enough? We comfortably ran less versus Everton and got thumped 4-0. Was that a fitness thing too?
how is it not the players fault?
Do you feel it would be fair to judge you on your job if you came in to it half way through a project and was given a team of people the previous managers before you had hired, most of which weren't good enough to complete the job, and bearing in mind you would be allowed to bring your own people in at the end of the current project?
Given those circumstances, would you feel it was fair if you were dismissed from your job if the project you were working on didn't finish strongly?
Having a man sent off might actually benefit us you know.
Except you've got zero authority to do so. You would feel incredibly hard done by if you were judged under the same circumstance.
Are our players actively trying to sabotage us? This is the worst team that has ever been in the PL. We're making a meal of the game to diabolical proportions.
If half a year after I took a job we are worse than before, yes I think it's 100% fair.
We need a rebuild from Ole's 6 months.
Think you're going to be surprised if you think Ole is going to get the stick for this type of performance over the players. They are embarrassing.
I don’t get what you think draws all these people to RedCafe if it’s not to pass judgement?Judgements based on what?
This is familiar
2-3 signings are not going to fix anything. We have a serious problem in coaching. We hired out of his depth Moyes, 2 dinosaurs in LVG and Jose and now we basically got another Moyes. Until we finally hire the right manager, we will be a laughing stock and rightly so.
You're going to be lynched on this forum for that thought.
Reality is that no manager will ever get to do a complete overhaul of the squad, he'll have to get most out of what he has in addition to few signings he'll make. If he doesn't, he'll be given the boot.
Humiliating again from the team. Honestly think we may fall out of top 10 next season. We are that bad.
Ole isn’t the man to sort this mess out. We are all going on blind optimism to think he can make a success in this job.
Glazers won’t back him, fans will turn and his lack of managerial experience will not inspire players who have won plenty.
Glazers won’t back him, fans will turn and his lack of managerial experience will not inspire players who have won plenty.
Maybe there's hope! If we become bad enough the club will become less profitable and the Glazers could sell.
Then you've obviously got no experience at a management level because 6 months is no time to change a culture when you're fighting fires day in day out.
Half a season so far + a dodgy CV.
We are where we are exactly because of this "experience". Not only hiring wrong managers but also giving them too much time even though we all know they are clueless.
this.
Yet he got all the praise for doing it straight away when he came? Either you can do it quickly or you can't.
This is every game now not an odd one.
No organisation would higher an individual with such little managerial experience.
We need 10 new players. Plus better coaches. And a better manager.
It's been a regular issue for a while. I doesn't matter whether it's United or Huddersfield - fitness is based on working on it, and we obviously entered the season lacking.
If Ole leaves after the end of the season, I wouldn't like it. But I will understand it.
But that honestly scares me because how bad a PR move it would be.
But that honestly scares me because how bad a PR move it would be.
I'm wondering if we lose today and cardiff whether we'd still have some making out Ole takes no blame.
He’s screwed, if he can rid of some deadwood and buy couple of good players before being sacked next year that’s best we can hope for.
Because it's not one or two players. It's a team problem. Even when Mourinho was around we regularly ran a lot less than who ever we were facing. For whatever reason, the team entered the season lacking in this department. It's a coaching issue.
We have, but fitness isn't as big a reason as general attitude of the squad.
Then what? We sack a manager every 6 months because he doesn't win enough games for your liking? Behave. We're in this mess because we've jumped around from manager to manager without any clear direction on how we want to build a squad so what we've ended up with is an unbalanced and ageing squad that we're asking our current manager to dismantle and rebuild in his image this time, the same we we've asked our previous 3 managers to do so and then sacked them because we've been unhappy with the way they're going about it.
So tell me then, what do we do? Sack Solskjær and bring in Pochettino? What happens when he goes on a similar run in 6 months time? We sack him as well and just keep on repeating that while Jones and Young still churn out because each new manager wants to 'assess the squad' before making any decisions?
It's the lack of planning that's got us into this mess and having knee jerk reactions because you don't like what someone says in a fecking press conference is the absolute epitome of the state of modern day football fans. Anyone can win the treble with MK Dons on Football Manager of FIFA but no one on here has any idea how difficult management at this level actually is, yet everyone on here is an expert.
Exactly this. Those were the games that got him the job. He got all the praise then but now its the players fault and he cant be judged.
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