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Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion
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yes you can have your opinion no one has said otherwise. It’s the over the top clown talk and shitting on and the constant sly little digs in every thread no matter the subject that gets me.
Don't make out your opinion is common sense.
He's no Arrigo Sacchi or Sir Alex, and surely results could had been better in some games, but we were really in a delicate position, and people fail to understand that things could had gone very wrong. One just need to look at Spurs and Arsenal and see how easy it is to enter in a negative spiral.
Yes, Ole didn't put us fighting for the title, but things are pretty much in a grey area rather than dark.
You're allowed your opinion mate. I have no problem with those who don't think he's good enough. It's the 'fans' that abuse the man and make up lies that need to feck off.
Yep they eventually got it right as they got in more players suited to high speed technical football.
When Ole gets similar level attacking players then our play will improve.
Fergie took 3.5 years to win a trophy and 6.5 to win the league.
Fergie was one of if not the most sought after managers football when he came here. The comparison is ridiculous.
He was also coaching in a different era, when United were not a part of an elite group who almost had a monopoly on trophies in England and couldn't win European trophies.
But the ridiculous comparison will continue to be made until Solskjaer is here for more years than it took Fergie to win the league.
No manager would win the prem or champs league with our current squad. That includes Pep and Klopp.
That's the problem...we didn't learn a thing from last year when Sevilla beat us in the semi-final. In that game Ole waited until the 87th minute to make a sub, this time he waited until the 10th minute of extra time!! That's over 100 minutes before making a change...crazy! We should have been able to beat both of those teams but didn't. So we haven't learned and kicked on at all...that's the real worry.
'Ex player and legend of the club sacked after 1 season in charge as top 4 finish considered a failure not progress'.
That's the standards clubs like Juve operate at!
That's the standards clubs like Juve operate at!
Pirlo took over a Juventus side that won the Serie A. They were going backwards under him.
Coming 4th in a 1 horse race certainly should be considered a failure, especially considering they won the previous 9 in a row. Thats a little different to Utd and Ole’s situation no?
I rememebr back in 90/91 season (yeah, I am that old
) we made a poor season ending up 6th, despite winning the cup winners cup beating mighty Barcelona. Steve Bruce made a terrific season that year, and he was a class PK taker. Pretty sure nowadays fans would be opening thread "Sir Alex sack watch" or something similar after that season.Not saying Ole is or will ever be at Sir Alex level, but people seem to misunderstand sports performance and think that when someone doesn't win titles is their own fault, forgeting all the other teams who are also trying to win games. In the end there's only one winner.
If we apply this logic in other areas, people would be saying that Aldi/other brand is failing because Tesco makes more sales.
Eh, who's comparing?
I'm saying we're a traditional patient club and that's how our success has been earned previously. Fergie and Busby.
Let Chelski and PetroCity hire and fire, and buy their way to the top. We're about a bit more than that.
You wouldn't think so based on some on here. It's like people never learn.
Fergie won the league with Aberdeen, breaking the Rangers/Celtic duopoly. Try again.
Explain Ole at Cardiff then. Huge changes, relegated from PL then right near the bottom of the Championship. His replacement brought them to a decent finish further up the table.
I would argue that Serie A is certainly more competitive than the EPL as things currently stand.
Would they have won a trophy by this stage? I don't think anybody is saying Ole should have won the PL or CL this season, in fact many believe he never will. Not throwing away a golden chance to win a European trophy to a 7th placed La Liga side would of been a good end to the season for most.
It took Klopp 5 years and Pep spent £1b I will also add.
Bingo
You're underestimating Brendan Rodgers.
You didn't answer the question, what is the style Ole is implementing?
I could have told you within about 3 weeks of Klopp and Pep starting.
Absolutely mate. As long as we're progressing and building towards something, I'm more than happy to take the rough with the smooth. I started supporting us in around 96, so missed the period you refer to, but reading about that time, the parallels are there (and like you, I'm not saying Ole is like SAF). Yes, the game is different and has changed, but the principles of the club haven't. And as long as the manager respects those principles and continues to progress, then he deserves the time to build the club back up. It's not a coincidence that the only two managers in Utd's post-war history who have been successful, were the ones who a) developed the template, and b) followed it, which is what Ole is by and large doing. It's a young team which will naturally have its ups and downs. The key is that they learn from the downs.I rememebr back in 90/91 season (yeah, I am that old
Not saying Ole is or will ever be at Sir Alex level, but people seem to misunderstand sports performance and think that when someone doesn't win titles is their own fault, forgeting all the other teams who are also trying to win games. In the end there's only one winner.
If we apply this logic in other areas, people would be saying that Aldi/other brand is failing because Tesco makes more sales.
Head in the sand example of a post right here. SAF, Klopp and even Pepp at city would have been sacked with that logic.
SAF style?
You think Fergie would have tolerated Pogba? Martial? Would have said we're not in the PL title race whilst top of the league? I could go on...
Nothing like SAF, it's a massive disservice to him to be compared to Ole.
You're all failing to recognise that giving players free reign to keep them happy is not good man management in competitive football. Not at this level.
We went from 6th to 3ed and 3 semifinals to 2ed and a final. I don't know about you but I want the Title. We are getting closer to that, EL final lost or won.
You're totally missing the picture here though. Those three managers earned the time they received because of their previous track records at winning major trophies. Liverpool lost something like five home games on the bounce without scoring a single goal earlier this season and barely any Liverpool fan wanted him out because they trusted his record and ability.
Their temperament maybe different to what they accept - yet both are man management style managers.
Im not saying Ole is better or something am I?
Plus your acting like Pogba and Martial have been his players that he bought. It’s not like he has this amazing ability to sell players at United; no one really does and no one really is going to buy Martial and Pogba is a virus who has been here longer than Ole has. He has preferred Centre midfielders to him as well.
It's painfully obvious how much Ole likes Pogba. If he was that much of a virus, he wouldn't have him in the squad, never mind on the pitch.
When Pogba and Ole leave united you should make a mental note of how wanted they are by the rest of the Football world. Then try to figure out why so many want the virus over Mr. Vaccine.
I always laugh how people compare Ole to Sir alex. Sir alex was a proven manager before he took over Manchester United.
So after taking the team from 6th, then 3ed with 3 semifinals to 2ed and a final, why don't you trust we are moving in the right direction. It's is very similar to Klopps reign btw.
Except for the football and klopps history of succeeding against the odds with said football.
People comparing Ole to Fergie is baffling.
I really do not understand why people don't get this. There is absolutely no comparisons. They are judging SAF on the Scottish Premier League as it now, not back then when It was really strong.
That's not a style.
Sir Alex didn't stick to formations but he definitely had a style. Aggressive, high tempo play with tough central players and pace out wide, and at times no obvious striker.
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