Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[croadyman]

His favouritism towards the usual suspects could well see us lose all of Donny, Eric & Paul this summer

 

[gajender]

His favouritism towards the usual suspects could well see us lose all of Donny, Eric & Paul this summer

Apart from Pogba other two won't be missed at all one is perma crock and other has been such a disappointment.

 

[croadyman]

Apart from Pogba other two won't be missed at all one is perma crock and other has been such a disappointment.

Personally I wonder if there were times Bailly got rushed back when we got desperate and Donny hasn't had a proper opportunity here in my opinion because Ole never fancied him in the first place

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

I agree, Pep needs really specific players to develop his system. Often spending gigantic fees in order to develop the squad, but once he does it the level his teams have reached is amazing.

Of course we are speaking hypothetically since we cant be certain what would happen, but lets be honest here Pep is 10 times the manager Ole is. If we make a list on the greatest managers in history where do you think each one would be?

Ole is not even in that conversation, nor he is close to be. Pep is an all time great with 50 years, Ole while really loved here is not even a world recognized manager at 48.

So let's keep it real here, its pretty safe to assume Pep would do better than Ole in pretty much any team.

The argument is not about who’s the better manager but instead whether better manager like Pep can win it with the current squad we have right now. If 78 points is the maximum Pep can achieve with better squad (16/17), how can he achieve more with this our current squad?

End of the day this squad is still very young squad, any manager still needs time to develop and build the squad. And it will take longer for any manager if the board decide to slow down the progress like our last summer window by not giving the manager the player to improve his XI.

 

[gajender]

Personally I wonder if there were times Bailly got rushed back when we got desperate and Donny hasn't had a proper opportunity here in my opinion because Ole never fancied him in the first place

Both Maguire and Lindelof are our clear first choice many might not agree with it but for me they are there on merit not because of favouritism , I don't think Bailly has been rushed back at all ever .
Donny is a strange one he is absolutely ineffectual as No 10 and we haven't seen much of him in Center Midfield he may come good but I simply don't think he suits us at all. Ideally if we can get our mony back in Summer I would prefer us to move him on. It's not as if several Dutch posters didn't warn us about it he is just not that good.

 

[Bobcat]

I dont think any of us can comprehend how difficult it must be to manage a large squad of players with the pressure that managers are under.

I posted somewhere else about our schedule this month. City A, Milan H, West Ham A, Milan A, Leicester A - all must win matches. In terms of priorities there is no way that he can not put a higher importance on anything that doesn't potentially lead to CL football. I have no idea how much pressure he would get from Woodward and the money men on anything, but I'm near certain they will be in his ear about the importance of the revenue CL will bring next season. Its absolutely vital, and I'm sure we will see the difference in spending this summer between those who are in it and those who are not.

I'm not sure I feel that these players have let us down either. Maybe one or two, but for the most part the word I would use to describe this squad is resilient. To lose only 4 in the last 43 league games, in this schedule, is something to be proud of. Yesterday was just a step too far. Leicester were on the top of their game and we looked like what we are - a group of players that he either played too much or not enough, and I don't mean that to read as a criticism of him. As I said above, the challenges in managing a squad are completely alien to us at home.

What I'm hoping for in this Int'l break is that we can find some creative solutions to make sure our players aren't flogged to death. Our April schedule isn't any easier.

Absoloutely.

Would his critics be happy if we sacrificed the league or Europa to go all in for the FA cup? As you said, these games in March starting with City were all must-wins.

People were not exactly pleased at the end of the 2016 season, so that proves the FA cup is not held that high among fans. Also considering we had no matchday revenue in a year, securing CL is more important than ever. Winnig the FA cup would have felt pretty hollow if we went into the summer with empty coffers

This constant goal post shifting, just for the sake of having something to moan about is maddening. At the start of the season fans and pundits alike thought we would struggle to get top 4. Being 2nd with a fair chance of winning the EL at the end of March is not perfect, but it certainly does not warrant this level of doom and gloom.

 

[Mainoldo]

Absoloutely.

Would his critics be happy if we sacrificed the league or Europa to go all in for the FA cup? As you said, these games in March starting with City were all must-wins.

People were not exactly pleased at the end of the 2016 season, so that proves the FA cup is not held that high among fans. Also considering we had no matchday revenue in a year, securing CL is more important than ever. Winnig the FA cup would have felt pretty hollow if we went into the summer with empty coffers

This constant goal post shifting, just for the sake of having something to moan about is maddening. At the start of the season fans and pundits alike thought we would struggle to get top 4. Being 2nd with a fair chance of winning the EL at the end of March is not perfect, but it certainly does not warrant this level of doom and gloom.

He could have just done a competent managers job and rotate his squad. He only seems to want to rotate when players are injured. We was 4-0 to Sociedad and both Bruno and Rashford got 45 minutes.

I’m sure Axel and Amad have 75 minutes in them somewhere but we will never know. His squad management is worse if not as bad as Mourinho’s. Zlatan got injured because he ran him to the ground.

 

[Bobcat]

He could have just done a competent managers job and rotate his squad. He only seems to want to rotate when players are injured. We was 4-0 to Sociedad and both Bruno and Rashford got 45 minutes.

I’m sure Axel and Amad have 75 minutes in them somewhere but we will never know. His squad management is worse if not as bad as Mourinho’s. Zlatan got injured because he ran him to the ground.

Its very easy sitting in hindsight and saying we should have rotated games we won. Also, Cavani, Pogba and VdB have been unavailable lately and Rashford have been struggling for a long time so its not like we have been spoilt for choice up front, especially when you consider Martial have been diabolical the whole season and its not really smart to throw Amad in at the deep end and demand he delivers at a crucial point in the season.

Tuanzebe has been shite every time hes played except that one game vs PSG.

If we rotated vs Milan or vs City/West Ham we most likely would have been knocked out the EL and/or would have been dragged into a top 4 scrap instead of sitting pretty comfortable like we do now

 

[Eriku]

His favouritism towards the usual suspects could well see us lose all of Donny, Eric & Paul this summer

Not sure I see the argument for throwing Pogba into that list? He’s one of the players Ole constantly uses if fit.

 

[Mainoldo]

Its very easy sitting in hindsight and saying we should have rotated games we won. Also, Cavani, Pogba and VdB have been unavailable lately and Rashford have been struggling for a long time so its not like we have been spoilt for choice up front, especially when you consider Martial have been diabolical the whole season and its not really smart to throw Amad in at the deep end and demand he delivers at a crucial point in the season.

Tuanzebe has been shite every time hes played except that one game vs PSG.

If we rotated vs Milan or vs City/West Ham we most likely would have been knocked out the EL and/or would have been dragged into a top 4 scrap instead of sitting pretty comfortable like we do now

It’s not very easy if you’ve been calling it for ages.

I get your point but the thing is you’ve just isolated this last month when injuries have hit our squad. I’m talking about a whole season.

It wasn’t long ago when I said after the Sheffield United game and Axel had a stinker that he’s not utilising him properly. Throwing plays in because the main guy is injured or Just to waste 5 minutes does nothing for squad fitness.

If he rotated adequately phrases such as throwing him into the deep end wouldn’t exist.

At the end of the day it all falls down to this. He’s not secure in his job no matter what new contract is down the road. As this is the case what you will find and continue to find is that he does what is best for his job security and not what is best for the team. He’ll burn players out because he needs a certain team for us to win games. Back to Axel.. there has been plenty of times where he could have got minutes at RB LB or CB to embed him into the team. By doing this if offers him options such as resting both Lindelof and Maguire (his first choices) in games such as Sociedad preserving legs.

This also goes for Bruno and Rashford. Both where unavailable/rested in a FA cup quarter final because he didn’t manage his squad correctly.

Like you said all good in hindsight but very worrying when you are calling the issues well in advance before they occurred.

 

[Mainoldo]

Not sure I see the argument for throwing Pogba into that list? He’s one of the players Ole constantly uses if fit.

Yes now as a left winger because he’s decided finally he can’t play number 6.

 

[anant]

Its very easy sitting in hindsight and saying we should have rotated games we won. Also, Cavani, Pogba and VdB have been unavailable lately and Rashford have been struggling for a long time so its not like we have been spoilt for choice up front, especially when you consider Martial have been diabolical the whole season and its not really smart to throw Amad in at the deep end and demand he delivers at a crucial point in the season.

Tuanzebe has been shite every time hes played except that one game vs PSG.

If we rotated vs Milan or vs City/West Ham we most likely would have been knocked out the EL and/or would have been dragged into a top 4 scrap instead of sitting pretty comfortable like we do now

I really have no idea why people are complaining about the Sociedad game. There was no way we'd play a completely second XI there even though it was 4-0.

Hell, Had Sociedad converted the penalty and scored of even one of the 3-4 chances they had following that, without Bruno on the field it would have been a long final 60 minutes

 

[Zlatan 7]

He could have just done a competent managers job and rotate his squad. He only seems to want to rotate when players are injured. We was 4-0 to Sociedad and both Bruno and Rashford got 45 minutes.

I’m sure Axel and Amad have 75 minutes in them somewhere but we will never know. His squad management is worse if not as bad as Mourinho’s. Zlatan got injured because he ran him to the ground.

I’m sick to my back teeth of seeing the sociedad game used to beat Ole, pick another one ffs.

I agree with all of the post you’re replying to here. It’s bang on

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

Where is his ruthless side, i remember when we used to lose with SAF or even Mourinho for that matter so meekly, we knew there would be changes in the next matches and some of those players would not be seen for ages. Whereas with him, after the match he keep smiling, like nothing has happened, when i am feeling sick to my stomach and i wana punch myself.

On to the next match, the same players start as if nothing happens. What sort of coaching is this, furthermore, my biggest gripe with him is our style of play stinks, we are just as bad as LVG and Mourinho, i don't remember any chances that were created against Leicester, we just rolled over for them. We have no style of play just passive passing from back to front. We will get nowhere with him, which is sad because i have been the most patient with him, because i have always loved Ole, but eventually i want my club to win things and back to the glory days of old, which is beyond him sadly.

 

[bsCallout]

It’s not very easy if you’ve been calling it for ages.

I get your point but the thing is you’ve just isolated this last month when injuries have hit our squad. I’m talking about a whole season.

It wasn’t long ago when I said after the Sheffield United game and Axel had a stinker that he’s not utilising him properly. Throwing plays in because the main guy is injured or Just to waste 5 minutes does nothing for squad fitness.

If he rotated adequately phrases such as throwing him into the deep end wouldn’t exist.

At the end of the day it all falls down to this. He’s not secure in his job no matter what new contract is down the road. As this is the case what you will find and continue to find is that he does what is best for his job security and not what is best for the team. He’ll burn players out because he needs a certain team for us to win games. Back to Axel.. there has been plenty of times where he could have got minutes at RB LB or CB to embed him into the team. By doing this if offers him options such as resting both Lindelof and Maguire (his first choices) in games such as Sociedad preserving legs.

This also goes for Bruno and Rashford. Both where unavailable/rested in a FA cup quarter final because he didn’t manage his squad correctly.

Like you said all good in hindsight but very worrying when you are calling the issues well in advance before they occurred.

You don't rest your first 11 in the league. Pep has more chance because of there ridiculous squad but no other manager can afford to. Liverpool played the same team every week.

The only thing we should have done is not bothered with League Cup.

 

[Siorac]

I am just sad. This club is years away from being successful...years.

I'm fairly certain we're never winning the Premier League again. The European Super League, or some similar abomination, will happen before we stumble on to another league title.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

The argument is not about who’s the better manager but instead whether better manager like Pep can win it with the current squad we have right now. If 78 points is the maximum Pep can achieve with better squad (16/17), how can he achieve more with this our current squad?

End of the day this squad is still very young squad, any manager still needs time to develop and build the squad. And it will take longer for any manager if the board decide to slow down the progress like our last summer window by not giving the manager the player to improve his XI.

That's not the maximum he could get from that squad. It's what he got out of that squad in his first transitional year where he was drilling his methods into the team. Pep would win the league within 2-3 years as our manager IMO. A better manager tends to do a better job and he more successful. And he's lightyears ahead of Ole as manager. One is a managerial great while the other is just alright.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

It's not even about spending.
Nobody at the club is under any pressure to win things.
Just look at Chelsea, Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve etc after they have a bad season or a bad season by their definition.
Those are clubs that want to win, that feel pressure to win.
We just look like a club comfortable drifting along, as long as we can find any crumbs to call 'progress'.
A few days ago a director said we are enjoying 'phenomenal success'
I am just sad. This club is years away from being successful...years.

Absolutely. Hard to see the PL draught not being 13/15 years at least. It's already 8 and were probably 2-3 managers away even if we're optimistic considering our track record of hiring managers.

Ole himself will probably have another 2 years before we get the chance of hiring another manager that doesn't work out.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

That's not the maximum he could get from that squad. It's what he got out of that squad in his first transitional year where he was drilling his methods into the team. Pep would win the league within 2-3 years as our manager IMO. A better manager tends to do a better job and he more successful. And he's lightyears ahead of Ole as manager. One is a managerial great while the other is just alright.

During Ole full second season aka this season, last summer he didn't get any of player that he wanted to upgrade his XI. So let's use the similar case to Man City and Pep, if the board didn't back Pep in Man City in his second full season to buy his full backs and new keeper and instead going for young inexperienced 18 years old player, an injury player who barely available and another player just to sit on the bench. Would he still win the league? I think it's very tough when a manager gets that treatment but expected to win the league with unfinished product squad. Pep is great but at the end if the board slows down the progress then the manager still needs more time.

 

[Bilbo]

Absolutely. Hard to see the PL draught not being 13/15 years at least. It's already 8 and were probably 2-3 managers away even if we're optimistic considering our track record of hiring managers.

Ole himself will probably have another 2 years before we get the chance of hiring another manager that doesn't work out.

Football fans love to talk about the future with so much certainty. Everything is laid out so why bother watching. Except ask a fan to predict the top four every season and most will get it wrong. Hell, ask one to pick 5 winners from the next round of matches and most of them will mess it up.

Football is unpredictable

 

[Mainoldo]

You don't rest your first 11 in the league. Pep has more chance because of there ridiculous squad but no other manager can afford to. Liverpool played the same team every week.

The only thing we should have done is not bothered with League Cup.

It’s not rest it’s flipping squad rotation.

 

[Mainoldo]

I’m sick to my back teeth of seeing the sociedad game used to beat Ole, pick another one ffs.

I agree with all of the post you’re replying to here. It’s bang on

It was an example mate. An EXAMPLE.

 

[Zlatan 7]

It was an example mate. An EXAMPLE.

And the only one that can ever be used to beat Ole so let’s all keep using the SAME example over and over and over

 

[Berbasbullet]

And the only one that can ever be used to beat Ole so let’s all keep using the SAME example over and over and over

It’s not like Bruno or Rashford played the entire game either. It’s so bizarre.

 

[bsCallout]

It’s not rest it’s flipping squad rotation.

Which you don't do in the league. Especially when we had an awful start. The moment you get any injuries it becomes even harder. So then the question is, which cups should we have no played such strong teams in and been happy to go out early?

 

[Apokalips]

Why do people keep trying to convince themselves, and others, that a better manager would not be able to do a better job than Ole?

Of course they would! Much like Bruno has come in and done a much better job than Lingard, or Lewandowski would come in and do a better job than Martial, etc. We might not guarantee a title but we would likely be closer and have more potential to grow further.

Better quality of manager and players tends to increase your ceiling.

 

[theklr]

Having to play DJ, Greenwood and and a injured Rashy for a number of important games and winning them is good enoughh for me.

Yes, FA cup exit was unfortunate, but half the players were exhausted and the other half werent match fit.

Yeah he could have started the A team, but i'm pretty sure the physios told him that could be risky. He usually starts the best team if he can..

Together with not loosing much more gap to City and preferrably holding on to 2nd, the crux to this season will be winning EL, thats make or break really.

Yes, there are better managers out there, but think people underestimate how broken United were after Jose, and he was the perfect guy to fix it.

Let him at least try to make one genuine title challenge next year , he has earned it. If he doesnt, lets get someone else.

 

[AshRK]

I think we have slowly evolving our style to dominate opponents in some of the games like against Everton for example. Sometime you can't expect the team to dominate against teams with much better midfield or players to retain possession. He hasn't get the support from the board to buy players to upgrade his XI last summer so the players he has is still almost the same as last season which players that are not specialist in their retaining possession means there are not much he can do to make drastically changes.

For example, would you blame SAF for not able to dominate vs Barcelona in final?

I don't think we consistently dominate. I understand lack of quality midfielders could be one reason but still I would like us to dictate teams and not look lost which has been the case in last few matches.

 

[redshaw]

Why do people keep trying to convince themselves, and others, that a better manager would not be able to do a better job than Ole?

Of course they would! Much like Bruno has come in and done a much better job than Lingard, or Lewandowski would come in and do a better job than Martial, etc. We might not guarantee a title but we would likely be closer and have more potential to grow further.

Better quality of manager and players tends to increase your ceiling.

Some think we've been down that road but I'd argue we haven't. I don't think a retiring LVG and damaged Jose really count, they were good in the past. We've yet to hire a current top manager.

Ole has done a good job overall, better than expected but he will have to keep improving and secure trophies soon.

 

[Mainoldo]

And the only one that can ever be used to beat Ole so let’s all keep using the SAME example over and over and over

There has been many times where he hasn’t used his subs or squad correctly if you feel Sociedad is the only tool to represent this then fine. He could have rotated players against Palace or Sheffield if he wanted to but like I said he managers to save his job every game.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Football fans love to talk about the future with so much certainty. Everything is laid out so why bother watching. Except ask a fan to predict the top four every season and most will get it wrong. Hell, ask one to pick 5 winners from the next round of matches and most of them will mess it up.

Football is unpredictable

Sure but life being unpredictable doesn't mean you throw out of the window. I'd also rather have Messi in my team than Lukaku. Can Messi get injured for the rest of the season? Sure, but you'd expect him to do better than Lukaku for your side. And football isn't that unpredictable. Most of the title winners across the major leagues are the expected names with only a few aberrations here and there.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Why do people keep trying to convince themselves, and others, that a better manager would not be able to do a better job than Ole?

Of course they would! Much like Bruno has come in and done a much better job than Lingard, or Lewandowski would come in and do a better job than Martial, etc. We might not guarantee a title but we would likely be closer and have more potential to grow further.

Better quality of manager and players tends to increase your ceiling.

How can anyone do better than Ole? He's an elite manager after all.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

During Ole full second season aka this season, last summer he didn't get any of player that he wanted to upgrade his XI. So let's use the similar case to Man City and Pep, if the board didn't back Pep in Man City in his second full season to buy his full backs and new keeper and instead going for young inexperienced 18 years old player, an injury player who barely available and another player just to sit on the bench. Would he still win the league? I think it's very tough when a manager gets that treatment but expected to win the league with unfinished product squad. Pep is great but at the end if the board slows down the progress then the manager still needs more time.

Either way he'd have winning it soon or well on our way. He's one of the managerial greats FFS. Next we'll have people arghing that Sir Alex wouldn't have done any better than Ole too. It's like Klopp at Liverpool. Didn't win it quickly but everyone willing to pay attention to performances could see the immense progress they were making. That's what top managers do.

 

[Bobcat]

It’s not very easy if you’ve been calling it for ages.

I get your point but the thing is you’ve just isolated this last month when injuries have hit our squad. I’m talking about a whole season.

It wasn’t long ago when I said after the Sheffield United game and Axel had a stinker that he’s not utilising him properly. Throwing plays in because the main guy is injured or Just to waste 5 minutes does nothing for squad fitness.

If he rotated adequately phrases such as throwing him into the deep end wouldn’t exist.

At the end of the day it all falls down to this. He’s not secure in his job no matter what new contract is down the road. As this is the case what you will find and continue to find is that he does what is best for his job security and not what is best for the team. He’ll burn players out because he needs a certain team for us to win games. Back to Axel.. there has been plenty of times where he could have got minutes at RB LB or CB to embed him into the team. By doing this if offers him options such as resting both Lindelof and Maguire (his first choices) in games such as Sociedad preserving legs.

This also goes for Bruno and Rashford. Both where unavailable/rested in a FA cup quarter final because he didn’t manage his squad correctly.

Like you said all good in hindsight but very worrying when you are calling the issues well in advance before they occurred.

But besides VdB, Williams and Tuanzebe, pretty much everyone else have been playing (semi)regularly when fit. Pogba, and Cavani i am sure would have had more games under their belt had it not been for injuries. Amad just arrived in January, and is still just a kid so he have to be managed very carefully. The only player we can say with certinaty should have played more is VdB, but honestly hes been mediocre/shite whenever hes gotten the chance, same goes for Axel who had two feck ups vs Everton and Leichester in the league that ultimately cost us 4 points

Also, i dont get this whole idea that hes acting in self interest. If he does well, so does the club

He tried to be a bit to clever with his line up vs Leichester no doubt. It was a risky move that ultimately backfired, but as i said above, CL qualification is much more important than winning any of the domestic cups. Not only does it bring in a lot more revenue, but it also makes you more attractive to players.

 

[Zlatan 7]

I’d say he manages to keep us top four, not to save his job.

maybe you should start using palace as your example then because against sociedad who could be rested was and the ones who couldn’t be left out played 45 minutes. Do you really think that extra 45 minutes Bruno played against sociedad was why he didn’t start yesterday? I don’t think he would have started yesterday even if he’d had sociedad game off, we’ve just played four or five intense must win games and now they’re off to play high level WC qualifiers not have a two week holiday. Those players rested yesterday needed it imo regardless of games 6 weeks ago.

There has been many times where he hasn’t used his subs or squad correctly if you feel Sociedad is the only tool to represent this then fine. He could have rotated players against Palace or Sheffield if he wanted to but like I said he managers to save his job every game.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

Can't wait to see the backtracking from plenty on here when Ole is eventually replaced. Just wait till we get the next guy working with Glazers, Woodward n Judge. You will be saying the same thing over and over and over. Sack him. He's not good enough etc. This is what this regime wants. They want the fans to keep blaming the managers and they keep raking in the money.

Ole got given a player he clearly didn't want last summer in Donny and a past his best Cavani who is also injury prone. What on earth did people expect him to do this season? Compete for the league? Nobody thought that back in summer in truth. I think 2nd place is genuinely the very best this team has in them. You can put Tuchel, Poch, Allegri in charge and we'd be no higher. We may play better football (although Tuchel ball is dull as dishwater) but you'd all still moan about something.

This club isn't winning a league title until we rid the cancer out of the club.

 

[SAFMUTD]

The argument is not about who’s the better manager but instead whether better manager like Pep can win it with the current squad we have right now. If 78 points is the maximum Pep can achieve with better squad (16/17), how can he achieve more with this our current squad?

End of the day this squad is still very young squad, any manager still needs time to develop and build the squad. And it will take longer for any manager if the board decide to slow down the progress like our last summer window by not giving the manager the player to improve his XI.

Actually the inital argument was that Pep nor Pochetino would do a better than Ole, which doesnt necessarily includes winning the league. Which I think shows how blind some people are regarding Ole.

No one objective would even start a serious discussion on Ole vs Pep. Thats how far away they are. We can like Ole all we want but he doesn’t even sit at the same table that Pep, thinking otherwise borders on blind fanaticism.

 

[Skåre Willoch]

There has been many times where he hasn’t used his subs or squad correctly if you feel Sociedad is the only tool to represent this then fine. He could have rotated players against Palace or Sheffield if he wanted to but like I said he managers to save his job every game.

You do realize that "Ole trying to save his job" means "Ole trying to win games", right? Ole trying to save his job is a good thing. I don't know what kind of mental gymnastics you do to come to the conclusion that Ole trying to save his job is a bad thing.

Right now, neither Ole or Manchester United can win in this thread.

Rotating = Bad. Useless. Get rid.
Not rotating = Bad. Useless. Get rid.

Ole doesn't rotate the squad, but wins games in the PL and progresses in Europa = Useless. The players are exhausted and they're being run to the ground. He's just trying to save his job, thinking about himself over the team.,
Ole rotates the squad, and gets knocked out of the FA cup = Useless. He should never have rested the players for such an important game.

Every game for the past 5 months have been "must win".
We brought in Donny in the summer, , a 34 year old crocked striker, and two youngsters. One was loaned out, the other arrived in January.
Pogba has been injured for a long time.
Bailly is (almost) as injury prone as Phil Jones, but still plays in the Europa League ahead of Lindelöf.
Tuanzebe has gotten a few chances, but properly failed to impress every time. Same with Donny (who's also been injured for a while).
Cavani has been more injured than fit.
Telles plays in Europa ahead of Shaw.
James have been played quite a lot lately, but Ole gets a ton of criticism for playing him at all.
Martial was dropped the very second Cavani got back (again), but being made of biscuits, Cavani got re-injured straight away.
Mata is Mata (and he's also been injured). He shouldn't be relied upon to win us games.
Bruno plays all games, but as this thread has made very clear, he's the only improvement Ole's made to the team. Who do we drop him for? And when?!
De Gea was dropped for Hendo, but Hendo subsequently made a massive howler, making Ole trust De Gea for another long while.

 

[Mainoldo]

I’d say he manages to keep us top four, not to save his job.

maybe you should start using palace as your example then because against sociedad who could be rested was and the ones who couldn’t be left out played 45 minutes. Do you really think that extra 45 minutes Bruno played against sociedad was why he didn’t start yesterday? I don’t think he would have started yesterday even if he’d had sociedad game off, we’ve just played four or five intense must win games and now they’re off to play high level WC qualifiers not have a two week holiday. Those players rested yesterday needed it imo regardless of games 6 weeks ago.

Of course it’s an accumulation of minutes. Those extra 45 minutes could have been used to help us get through a quarter final tie that actually wasn’t dead in the water.

I appreciate the debate as it’s actually a debate and not someone thinking I’m attacking the manager but you are bringing up things that can be interpreted in anyway. There’s actually no right or wrong answer in what he has done but we can’t deny he doesn’t utilise his bench good enough for a Manchester United manager. Too many times in the last year we have seen players suffer burnout. I believe he has the 3rd best squad in the league but it you was to analyse how he gives out minutes (maybe someone can do that) I wouldn’t be surprised if he users out squad lesser than a peak Klopp who really only had a strong 11.

 

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I’m interested in you listing another five more than I am you starting a thread about it. What are they?

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