Old Trafford revamp/could be torn down and rebuilt according to Glazer plans

What’s your preference for Old Trafford?

  • Rebuild

    Votes: 714 48.4%

  • Renovate

    Votes: 736 49.9%

  • Leave it as is

    Votes: 26 1.8%
  • Total voters
    1,476
sewey89 said:
Already we're seeing "nothing in this, they're just saying it to keep us quiet". I've said it time and time again.. Since the Super League protests, we've seen a difference in the Glazers. I'll never forgive them for how they've ran the club, but if they're not going to sell (which they show no sign of doing) then maybe, just maybe, they're starting to listen and realise that they've been shit?

I think now we've hired a company, we will certainly see progress on this, which is great news. It won't be quick though.

Does anyone know when Spurs were at this point, for example, and how long it took to completion from that point?
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Agree with this, I see green shoots and a bit of a shift from the powers that be at the club, they are finally listening, the protests keep the pressure on and all of these noises need to be followed through to completion.

For me I think OT should be ripped down and rebuilt, or a new stadium developed along side the old, the old then repurposed as the mini OT they seem to like the idea of.

Just looking at pictures of OT it looks old and dated, it look around 20 years out of date, the structure, design etc is very very 70s looking. Id love to see a new modern stadium for a new modern United, its long long over due.

No one will forget OT, just like no one forgets Highbury its a real shame blinkered fans are so stuck in their ways.

As for the spurs stadium I think it took roughly 3 years from the initial reports of them looking to build a new stadium, they were at Wembley for what, a season?
 
TrebleChamp99 said:
Agree with this, I see green shoots and a bit of a shift from the powers that be at the club, they are finally listening, the protests keep the pressure on and all of these noises need to be followed through to completion.

For me I think OT should be ripped down and rebuilt, or a new stadium developed along side the old, the old then repurposed as the mini OT they seem to like the idea of.

Just looking at pictures of OT it looks old and dated, it look around 20 years out of date, the structure, design etc is very very 70s looking. Id love to see a new modern stadium for a new modern United, its long long over due.

No one will forget OT, just like no one forgets Highbury its a real shame blinkered fans are so stuck in their ways.

As for the spurs stadium I think it took roughly 3 years from the initial reports of them looking to build a new stadium, they were at Wembley for what, a season?
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What makes you believe they are finally listening?
 
sewey89 said:
Already we're seeing "nothing in this, they're just saying it to keep us quiet". I've said it time and time again.. Since the Super League protests, we've seen a difference in the Glazers. I'll never forgive them for how they've ran the club, but if they're not going to sell (which they show no sign of doing) then maybe, just maybe, they're starting to listen and realise that they've been shit?

I think now we've hired a company, we will certainly see progress on this, which is great news. It won't be quick though.

Does anyone know when Spurs were at this point, for example, and how long it took to completion from that point?
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They started plans in 2007/08 and work began in 2015. They went through numerous proposals during that time and hit issues with planning permission, which you'd imagine we'd also experience. We're probably looking at a very long haul for this but if it's part of a ten year plan then it'll be worth it.
 
On face value it’s exciting news.

Let’s really hope we don’t end up with a generic bowl wrapped in silver or chrome.

Need something with character! As has been shared previously, the Colts stadium is a real stand out.
 
FreakyJim said:
Latest PR strategy - hiring consultants. Big ideas, master plans, 5 year plans, Rangnick gegenpress, anything to seem like the club is busy.
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Hiring consultants to keep fans of their backs. Mental gymnastics
 
DevilRed said:
Plunging the club into further debt and also likely hampering our transfer kitty each summer.

Glazers are too poor to own a top tier club like ours. Time to sell to someone wealthier and feck off.
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Behave
 
It’s weird to me how no one (journalists but MUST in particular) have queried the club as to how this is going to be funded. Because it seems to me the only options are the club pays for it (thus saddling us with more debt and leaving us absolutely fecked as far as buying players is concerned) or the Glazers paying out of their own pockets (that’s definitively happening). I know Neville mentioned selling the naming rights but there isn’t anyone who’s paying us a billion for the naming rights, those deals are typically for a lot less money than the sums that will be required here.
 
I am very torn on this issue. I desperately do not want to tear down the ol' girl in favor of a new stadium, however if it is indeed impossible to extend the South stand adequately then I fear this will be the only way to modernize to the standard which the owners and board will be happy with.

The concourses in the majority of the ground do need improving, I wonder whether it is structurally possible to "gut" some of the stands in order to improve the facilities? That being said, the feeling of being in the cramped exposed brick tunnel in the Stretford Paddock is something of a bygone era and lends an extra quality to the game, for me anyway.

Capacity wise, I think expansion purely for revenue and vanity would be a mistake. We could probably fit quite a few more in the ground just by ripping out the seats in the quads and reorganizing them, and with the introduction of safe standing hopefully coming into force, all T1 areas should be able to accommodate even more.









 
Lennon7 said:
That is just a typical United press statement now a days. It means absolutely nothing.
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Paying 3 consultancy firms to come up with plans on redevelopment is not the same as promising to do something.

They are clearly moving ahead with an upgrade. The Glazers have been shite owners but this is good news.
 
Gosh. People are so gullible. Played again by the Glazers and falling for it hook, line and sinker.
 
At least we’re at the preparing a plan stage. Next year we’ll be preparing a bid. Can’t wait until we fax over a P/O to the winning builders. Who’ll then install fifty new exec boxes and a sprinkler system.
 
It’s a question of whether the Glazers think that the fans will accept more words and no action this time.

Seems like a dodgy plan when we’re in the midst of our worst season in decades.
 
What will 200 mill buy these days? Will that cover a revamp and south stand increase? Or will it be a repaint job with a bit of plastic covering here and there?
 
jameyzane said:
Gosh. People are so gullible. Played again by the Glazers and falling for it hook, line and sinker.
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If nothing was going to happen then they wouldn't go to the trouble of hiring two firms that are known for international stadium and venue developments. Now, they might just fix the leaky toilets but it's not like nothing is happening.
 
jameyzane said:
Gosh. People are so gullible. Played again by the Glazers and falling for it hook, line and sinker.
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This makes no sense. What do you think their goal is? Waste money on hiring firms and planning just to pull the plug on the thing and do nothing?
 
Tom Van Persie said:
This makes no sense. What do you think their goal is? Waste money on hiring firms and planning just to pull the plug on the thing and do nothing?
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In about four years time when they unveil the new South Stand and redeveloped seating across the North Stand the Glazers will be smirking in the background saying "ha, we've proper fooled those rag bastards."
 
Classic Glazers this, just before a protest release some positive news. Hopefully United fans will see through this PR bullshit.
 
Given how much they pay the players, it’s no surprise they’re throwing money at consultants to come up with ‘the south stand needs to fit in with the rest of the stadium’.
 
I hope they put solar panels on the roof and create a sustainable stadium.
 
Mickeza said:
It was literally reported a month ago they were about to hire someone. Now they have.
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I know, however it seems very convenient timing. What next, the Glazers release a statement saying they're attending the first design team meeting, the next time there is a sign of discontent?
 
clarkydaz said:
id say a lot of the attention will go on the corporate areas
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That's not really focusing on the fan experience though is it, which is what they have promised.

I would be happy with a full face-lift, increased and better seating, get rid if that damn awful third tier, sort out the sloping pitch sides ànd install some decent screens AT THE BARE MINIMUM.
 
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