I don't see the point of the wall, ie the part that's raised in the corners.
Old Trafford extension
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Spoony said:
Must be how they've solved the problem of the North stand being different size & angle than the ends. If you look, it tapers off as it comes round to the North stand, with more seats building up, so I persume they are "flush with Northe Tier 2.
A1Dan said:
It's not though. . .well I'm sure it's not. The bottom part of the corners fit smoothly ie the part beneath the concrete wall (to both stands). So there's not a difference in the gradient of both second tiers. The goals ends, however are slightly taller. Would like the designers to explain why they did it this way. Looks like a bit a mess IMO.
On Wobbly's second big photo (on the previous page), there's about 10 or 12 rows of seats in that bottom section, on the left. It's hard to tell for sure, but if you look carefully, I'm pretty sure that the uppermost of these (ie row 10) is below the equivalent row in the Stretty next to it, whereas the fron rows are level. In fact, this must be the case, otherwise the contentious wall would lead to the seats above it all being 10 ft above the ones in the Stretty, if you see what I mean. Pretty sure that this means that Tier 2 of the North is not as steep as Tier 2 of the ends, and the new seats match the North. Does that make sense?
I've seen the renders and the bottom part of this wireframe, connects to both sections without any breaks and what have you. Even on Wobbly's pic, it looks like the join will be smooth.
That said, what is weird is that beneath the wall, there aren't the same number of rows. The bottom section(beneath the wall) that touches the North stand has less rows and more concrete wall, than the section that joines with the Strettie. If that makes sense. This is the part I find strange.
That said, what is weird is that beneath the wall, there aren't the same number of rows. The bottom section(beneath the wall) that touches the North stand has less rows and more concrete wall, than the section that joines with the Strettie. If that makes sense. This is the part I find strange.
A1Dan said:
That's right, the East and West tier 2's are steeper than the North tier 2 and that concrete wall is obviously the only way they could "match up" the gradients. I'm sure it'll look better once it's all finished!
mufc1878 said:
I guess the best way to tell will be to see in the flesh.
Spoony said:
I'm not too convinced that the wire frame is a) accurate or b) very helpful. It soesn't show how the quadrant matches up with the end (is it meant to be the NW quad in the wireframe), and it actually doesn't even look like it smoothly joins the North.
Spoony said:
I think that's the whole point of the wall. I'll put together some pics to show what I mean...
Great Wobbly.
Here we go - I've knowcked up a little jpg showing how I guess it must work... hope it makes sense. And before you say anything, the proprtions are very exagerated to illsutrate the point clearly.
If anybody wants to host it somewhere so we can link through to the image, feel free!
Edit: Oh great, first my image links don't work, now it won't upload files. Is this disabled, or is it to do with my firewall or what?
If anybody wants to host it somewhere so we can link through to the image, feel free!
Edit: Oh great, first my image links don't work, now it won't upload files. Is this disabled, or is it to do with my firewall or what?
Here's a blow-up of the video from the official site. You can sort of see from it what is going on.
Aidan, look at the render. The bottom part of the corner extension wraps around smoothly.
Cheers Weaste, here we go:
Spoony - which render - the wireframe?
Spoony - which render - the wireframe?
The one Weaste's linked. Look at the corner extension closely
I can see what you're trying to say, but I don't think that's the case. Unless that artist impression is misleading.
Not saying you're wrong.
Not saying you're wrong.
Too blurred to see much accurately, mate. I'm not sure they've even bothered show the wall accurately, if anything it looks like it's increasing in size the other way to how it actually does!
Actually you could be right.
Then again, I don't think you are.
Spoony said:
Think this might be the case - compare the render to the phots on page 9... I reckon the spazzer artist put the corner in thewrong way round!
A1Dan said:
He has hasn't he? Not on just this one, but the whole lot of them.
I'm well confused now.
Spoony said:
He has hasn't he? Not on just this one, but the whole lot of them.
I'm well confused now.
Maybe the builders have read the plans back to front?
WeasteDevil said:Maybe the builders have read the plans back to front?
Aidan's sussed it, I think.
Unless he's related to the artist who did the renders.
new view from the quadrant seats
https://picsrv.manutd.com/?fif=/Man Utd/img_10_13169.jpg&obj=iip,1.0&wid=230&hei=159&rgn=0,0,0,0&cvt=jpeg
https://picsrv.manutd.com/?fif=/Man Utd/img_10_13169.jpg&obj=iip,1.0&wid=230&hei=159&rgn=0,0,0,0&cvt=jpeg
A1Dan said:Cheers Weaste, here we go:
Spoony - which render - the wireframe?
Cool, graphics!
Lads, it gets worse (with the artist or possibly not):
that looks awful with the third tier on the North stand just hanging out up there all alone. Other then that though, it's decent..
It's an artist cockup again, the third tier doesn't do that, well not to that extent.
That concrete wall thing will become exec lounges and sportsbars, with glass fronts so, wont look as bad.
how do you know that? There's nothing on the artists renders to suggest thisStrettyEndFlags said:
mufc1878 said:
And there's nothing on the actual pictures that suggests it either
WeasteDevil, Nice work on this thread
Excellent - so you'll be able to attend OT, get the match day experience and still watch the 3.30 from NewmarketStrettyEndFlags said:
Great, we can sit in the sportsbar sipping on Budweiser and look at your shit banners across the Stretford End.StrettyEndFlags said:
Right, just been down to Old Trafford to get some more pics and see how things are coming along. Not much different from before, still haven't finished removing the gables. Was a bit of a funny day weather-wise....i thought it was quite bright when i took the pictures but 80% haven't come out well and are too dark. And i had to line Glazers pockets to the tune of £9.50 and sit through a 90 minute tour to get them! Anyway, here goes.
As you can see from the first one, this concrete wall that's been spoken about so much looks even more awkward where it joins the North stand, but it's all about sight lines as well as gradients.
and the West stand....
can't see much from the next one, if anyone has any good imaging software PM me for the photos'!!!
As you can see from the first one, this concrete wall that's been spoken about so much looks even more awkward where it joins the North stand, but it's all about sight lines as well as gradients.
and the West stand....
can't see much from the next one, if anyone has any good imaging software PM me for the photos'!!!
Good job, M.
I think the latest artist's impression is right. The wall is wide at both sides and it thins out in the middle. Which makes me think Aidan's theory's wrong. And you can see the little part that's at the same level of the North Stand. They did this because the raised part of the struture would've caused the seats next to the North stand to have obscured views. If that make sense.
I think the latest artist's impression is right. The wall is wide at both sides and it thins out in the middle. Which makes me think Aidan's theory's wrong. And you can see the little part that's at the same level of the North Stand. They did this because the raised part of the struture would've caused the seats next to the North stand to have obscured views. If that make sense.
Great pics.
WeasteDevil said:
cheers...i see they've made their way onto another forum already Weaste
mufc1878 said:cheers...i see they've made their way onto another forum already Weaste
What other forum?