It’s hardly even being covered, just checked SkySports.com and there’s nothing, shouldn’t this be a massive story?
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Where's David Gill when you need him.
Bang on the money @Snowjoe
Everyone, from Fulham through to Man United have to abide by FFP. Believe it or not, there are limits to what United can spend.
Why one club can flagrantly flout these rules and not be punished, is beyond me.
If United were somehow cooking the books and finding an extra billion to spend, I would expect there to be action taken too.
The victims of the fraud are the clubs who’ve lost out on prize money/Champions League qualification that City wouldn’t have attained without the financial doping. It’s not hard is it, Oblivious Jon? Other clubs are run as businesses.
What are your views on the systematic salvery, illegality of homosexuality and stoning of women in Abu Dhabi? Or do you not care because they buy your club good footballers and the inevitable ‘success’ that goes with it?
@jontheblue, you're seriously saying theres no crime?
Oh and beautiful City only trying to get sporting success unlike money grabbing United eh?
Oh and beautiful City only trying to get sporting success unlike money grabbing United eh?
And again, this is a bit rich coming from a Manchester United fan (I say that as a United fan). Does it make any difference to clubs lower in the pyramid and in less rich leagues who is taking the top spots?
This is not justification for City's behavior but obviously it's too much to ask fans to look beyond the partisan bullshit and stop treating City/PSG like their ascent is what's ruining football. Their ascent was confirmation of the sport's terminal state.
What has being a Utd fan got to do with anything?
Silly post. Is United cooking the books?
What crime has been committed in legal terms? As far as I know they've just broken UEFA rules.
Illegal and fraudulent financial reporting which is an internationally punishable crime????
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Financial crime.
Is it illegal to get inflated sponsorships though? I'm not clued up on the legal side of it but assuming all taxes are paid on it etc, what crime is committed?
It's a fair question to ask where the angst at PSG and City's methods are coming from, partisan bias or love for the game.
I refer you to where I said I'm not justifying what City have supposedly done.
Fraud, which this would be, is illegal and is taken very seriously.
Some of the worlds biggest criminals were taken down because of the fraud they commited, not the murders, drugs etc.
Some of the worlds biggest criminals were taken down because of the fraud they commited, not the murders, drugs etc.
BBC 6 o’clock news just reported on it! Maybe there is hope!
Let’s see if ITV do the same.
Still very little on SKY...
Let’s see if ITV do the same.
Still very little on SKY...
Didn't Al Capone get locked up for tax evasion or something?
I'm not saying you're justifying. On the other hand you're asking where is the angst coming from. Well it's obvious they're crooked.
Well I can't speak for england but overcharging for any kind of service could be considered tax evasion but in the harmed country, not in the recieving one (since it means that clubs are paying MORE taxes in france/england/europe, nobody is going to complain). And since Qatar (or saudi arabia) isn't going to charge themselves in their own country, there's nothing illegal about it here on this end.
What are the financial crimes though? I've not seen anyone actually explain what laws have been broken rather just people saying they've broken the law.
They're our title rivals who have had help from Uefa and Fifa to cheat their way to the top of our league.
Why wouldn't a Utd fan be upset? They also have numerous clubs around the globe so how far down that food chain does this go? What damage could this cause if they're allowed to carry on?
What if City decided they don't agree with another rule?
A lower league side was docked points for mistakenly paying players from a different bank account. How do they react to City being allowed to manipulate their image rights payments in the exact same manner?
Clubs thrown out of Europe thanks to FFP?
You don't have to be fighting for the title to be upset.
There really is no difference to doping in other sports.
Lance Armstrong, Russian athletics and 100m sprinters spring to mind.
They are gaining an unfair advantage compared to the other competitors.
United don’t break FFP. Neither do Chelsea or Liverpool.
These allegations are mounting.
ِand Djibril Cisse giving them the ball directly after playing the start kick after the gall and celebrating with them winning the league.
Manchester United title winners 2010-11, 2011-12, 2012-13.
Lying about the value knowingly and covering it up by pumping undeclared funds is
For real???
Don't know if this is true, but the way you worded it was amazing! Laughed a bit too hard.
The entire QPR team opting to play basketball deeee-fence leading up the the Aguero goal was very suspect, especially as the only attempted tackle was a reckless one in the box, and would have resulted in a penalty had it made contact.
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility, given what’s come out in the past few days, that the Arab would have directly covered the cost of relegation for Tony Fernandez plus interest.
There's a massive distinction obviously between getting a huge sponsorship legitimately and fiddling it by paying it yourself!
The point is, no-one would pay tje rate their sheiks have.
That was peculiar. Especially considering the context of these recent leaks and considering Mark Hughes and Joey Bartons connections to City.
All this sort of talk does forget that qpr actually put a hell of a shift in and were leading the game! If they were paid off they wouldn't have put that effort in.
It was when news came through they were safe their effort not unreasonably dropped..
It was still a joke they just gave possession straight back to city when conceding the equaliser though.
If they'd kept possession or played it off city players for throws etc they could easily have held on.
They didnt care by then they were safe.
If you actually re watch the game, barton getting sent off actually galvanisef qpr and they went ahead after!
It was the fact they knew they were safe that screwed us as their effort dropped still with those fateful lastl five mins left
I for one am totally shocked.
Who knew that an insanely rich state getting involved in one football club wasn’t a particularly good idea in the interests of fairness of competition
Who knew that an insanely rich state getting involved in one football club wasn’t a particularly good idea in the interests of fairness of competition
Don't know if this is true, but the way you worded it was amazing! Laughed a bit too hard.
I just laughed at it again, I’m glad someone else appreciates itLooking forward to hearing tomorrow's revelations...
Not saying the outcome was guaranteed. The galvanisation part was undesirable.
I think back to that season we were going head to head with Chelsea.
We needed Wigan to do something, yet they had that goon Scottish centre back sent off early doors, and lost 7-0 I think it was.
That was more what we thought might happen, and none of us really had any hope.
I can still remember the sickening pulse rate I had when QPR were 2-1 up. Most horrible stress feeling I've ever had in football, and I've seen my boys Wycombe almost relegated to the conference on the last day, seen them promoted, and seen them get to the semi finals of both the FA Cup and league cup live.
That sickening inevitability when they scored the equaliser. Unforgettable.