ODI Cricket Draft: Skills vs MJJ

Who will win the ODI?

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Welcome to Day 1 of the ODI snake draft round of 16. Some basic rules to consider while voting:

1) Judge players only on the basis of their ODI records.
2) Base your vote on which team you think is more likely to win an ODI between the two.
3) The ground for the match serves only as a representative of the overall playing conditions of its country.
4) The poll will remain open for 24 hours after creation.

Skills has won the toss and has chosen to bat first at the Sinhalese Sports Club in Colombo.
 
Starting XIs:

Skills: 1. Astle 2. Atapattu 3. Ponting 4. Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Samuels 7. Kapil Dev 8. Ian Bishop 9. Pringle 10. Saqlain 11. Ntini

MJJ: 1.Kaluwitharana 2. Fleming 3. Smith 4. Lara 5. Peitersen 6. Maxwell 7. Imran Khan 8. Gough 9. Steyn 10. Tahir 11.Patterson
 
Skills:

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MJJ:

Batting

Stephan Fleming- Batting Average 37.35 Strike Rate=75.90 (Average improves to 39 when batting second)
Romesh Kaluwitharana-Batting Average 22.22 Strike Rate=77.70 (Average improves slightly to 24 when batting second, if we consider his peak in 1999 then Batting Average is 30)
Steve Smith-Batting Average of 51 over the last three years with a strike rate of 90. (Average improves to 57 when batting second)
Brian Lara- Batting Average of 44 from 92-03 with a strike rate of 80 (Average improves to 47 when batting second)
Kevin Peitersen-Batting Average of 47 from 05-08 with strike rate of 88 (Average of 45 when batting second and 119 when batting at five.)
Gregg Maxwell-Batting Average of 35 with a striker rate of 125 (Average improves to 37 when batting second)
Imran Khan-Batting average of 34 from 82-90 with a strike rate of 76 (Average of 30 when batting second and 31 with a strike rate of 80 when batting at seven)

Bowling

Steyn- Average 25 Econ 4.86 Strike Rate 32 (Bowling first:- Average 26, Econ 5.05 Strike Rate 31.8)
Gough- Average 26 Econ 4.39 Strike Rate 36 ( Bowling first:- Average 22 Econ 4.21 Strike Rate 31.4)
Imran Khan- Average 23.32 Econ 3.95 Strike Rate 35 (Bowling first:- Average 19.56 Economy 4.15 Strike Rate 28
Patterson- Average 24 Econ 4.38 Strike Rate 34 (Bowling first:- Average 33 Economy 4.75 Strike Rate 42)
Tahir-Average 24 Economy 4.65 Strike Rate 31 (Bowling first:- Average 24.95 Economy 4.61 Strike Rate 32.4)
Smith- Average 30 Economy 6.16 Strike Rate 29.4
Maxwell-Average 40 Economy 5.56 Strike Rate 43.3


Why we will win:-
1. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man

2. Our team has a better track record batting second and bowling first
3. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man

4. Other than pointing, there is no one in skills team who is going to accelerate the innings, the strike rate of all is in the 75s.
5. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man

6. Our bowling attack is superior to his
7. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man
 
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Can pick only 1 choice.
Votes can be changed.
Votes should be public.

Just confirm with TMH.
 
Bermudan whale is ineligible. 4/7th of his game plan relies on him. He's fecked.
 
Batting First.

Atapattu-40 ave 70 sr
Astle-36 ave 73 sr
pointing-42 ave 82 sr
flowers-37 ave 76 sr
azharuddin-36 ave 73 sr
samuel-36 ave 75 sr
kapil dev-24 ave 100 sr

Bowling Second

kapil dev-30 ave 3.59 econ 50 sr
ntini 23 ave 4.43 econ 31.4 sr
mushtaq 23.22 4.19 econ 33.2 sr
bishop -25 4.26 econ 35 sr
pringle-22.6 4.51 econ 30 sr

  • My batsman have a better average with a higher strike rate
  • Our Bowlers, have a better average with a higher strike rate.
 
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Also worth mentioning, if I lose this I'll probably give up modding this draft.

Consider this fact before voting.
 
Akshay said:
MJJ:

Batting

Stephan Fleming- Batting Average 37.35 Strike Rate=75.90 (Average improves to 39 when batting second)
Romesh Kaluwitharana-Batting Average 22.22 Strike Rate=77.70 (Average improves slightly to 24 when batting second, if we consider his peak in 1999 then Batting Average is 30)
Steve Smith-Batting Average of 51 over the last three years with a strike rate of 90. (Average improves to 57 when batting second)
Brian Lara- Batting Average of 44 from 92-03 with a strike rate of 80 (Average improves to 47 when batting second)
Kevin Peitersen-Batting Average of 47 from 05-08 with strike rate of 88 (Average of 45 when batting second and 119 when batting at five.)
Gregg Maxwell-Batting Average of 35 with a striker rate of 125 (Average improves to 37 when batting second)
Imran Khan-Batting average of 34 from 82-90 with a strike rate of 76 (Average of 30 when batting second and 31 with a strike rate of 80 when batting at seven)

Bowling

Steyn- Average 25 Econ 4.86 Strike Rate 32 (Bowling first:- Average 26, Econ 5.05 Strike Rate 31.8)
Gough- Average 26 Econ 4.39 Strike Rate 36 ( Bowling first:- Average 22 Econ 4.21 Strike Rate 31.4)
Imran Khan- Average 23.32 Econ 3.95 Strike Rate 35 (Bowling first:- Average 19.56 Economy 4.15 Strike Rate 28
Patterson- Average 24 Econ 4.38 Strike Rate 34 (Bowling first:- Average 33 Economy 4.75 Strike Rate 42)
Tahir-Average 24 Economy 4.65 Strike Rate 31 (Bowling first:- Average 24.95 Economy 4.61 Strike Rate 32.4)
Smith- Average 30 Economy 6.16 Strike Rate 29.4
Maxwell-Average 40 Economy 5.56 Strike Rate 43.3


Why we will win:-
1. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man

2. Our team has a better track record batting second and bowling first
3. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man

4. Other than pointing, there is no one in skills team who is going to accelerate the innings, the strike rate of all is in the 75s.
5. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man

6. Our bowling attack is superior to his
7. We have fat bermuda whale as our 12th man
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Is Greg maxwell Glenn's brother?
 
Lara could have been played at 3, kalu wouldn't stay there for too long and it would be ideal time for Lara to get in.
 
@MJJ. Smith's bowling average (which ever smith it is) is worse than that.
 
Skills's bowling is not that upto the mark. MJJ has very good batting (except Kalu) until 6. Imran Khan (if it even gets to him), will get a few in the final overs.

Chasing that score, I'd only back Ponting. Attapatu and Astle may give a solid base, but if the chase is big (i.e 280+), there will be too much on Ponting's shoulders. Azhar will fight till the end, but the likes of Samuels have to put up a big innings to get close to that score. Favouring the bermudan triangle for now.
But will wait for the ensuing debates.

Edit: Wait for my Edit. Going for a cup of tea now.

Proper Opinion: The tea was good.

If Skills is batting first, His top 4 have what it takes to take the team to 180-210 in 40 overs. They are all solid and very dependable. If Ponting and to an extent flower are in the mood, even 240. Azhar is very good at getting quick runs and Samuels is more of a big hitter. So a score in the range of 260-300 can be expected. But MJJ's bowling is good. Expecting Imran, Tahir to be standout here, ably supported by Gough. So a more reasonable score would be 260ish.
Chasing that, Kalu might not last long (but then again, he might with this being his home country and also considering Skills's bowling is a little on the weak side). Lara, Smith and Pieterson are fantastic options to come in the MO (Although I don't know about their records in SL), and have what it takes to win the game by the 45th over. Saqlain will thrive here. But who will support him just as well? I reckon probably Kapil. Will it be enough ? Right now, I don't think so. Ntini could be the surprise package here.

Will still wait for other's opinions before voting.
 
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Skills, you might as well have posted the SR's of the team. It's one more column and it matters in an ODI ;)
 
Ijazz17 said:
@MJJ. Smith's bowling average (which ever smith it is) is worse than that.
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Its only for the last three years(as defined in the batting section), as he changed from a bowler to batsman. Didnt think it would be fair to choose a different peak definition for his batting and bowling so didnt check what his overall average/first two years is.

The same is true of Imran Khan, have used the same peak for his batting and bowling averages.
 
Ijazz17 said:
Skills's bowling is not that upto the mark. MJJ has very good batting (except Kalu) until 6. Imran Khan (if it even gets to him), will get a few in the final overs.

Chasing that score, I'd only back Ponting. Attapatu and Astle may give a solid base, but if the chase is big (i.e 280+), there will be too much on Ponting's shoulders. Azhar will fight till the end, but the likes of Samuels have to put up a big innings to get close to that score. Favouring the bermudan triangle for now.
But will wait for the ensuing debates.
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Am batting second mate.

Akshay said:
Statistically, MJJ is slightly favored. After 1000 simulations, MJJ averaged 211/7, winning 56% of the matches. Skills averaged 206/7, winning 44%.
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Did you use the peak definition for both teams?

Ijazz17 said:
Skills, you might as well have posted the SR's of the team. It's one more column and it matters in an ODI ;)
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Its because only pointing averages in the 80s, rest of his batsman have less than 75 SR :D

MJJ said:
Batting First.

Atapattu-40 ave 70 sr
Astle-36 ave 73 sr
pointing-42 ave 82 sr
flowers-37 ave 76 sr
azharuddin-36 ave 73 sr
samuel-36 ave 75 sr
kapil dev-24 ave 100 sr

Bowling Second

kapil dev-39 ave 3.59 econ 50 sr
ntini 23 ave 4.43 econ 31.4 sr
mushtaq 23.22 4.19 econ 33.2 sr
bishop -25 4.26 econ 35 sr
pringle-22.6 4.51 econ 30 sr

  • My batsman have a better average with a higher strike rate
  • Our Bowlers, have a better average with a higher strike rate.
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Akshay said:
Statistically, MJJ is slightly favored. After 1000 simulations, MJJ averaged 211/7, winning 56% of the matches. Skills averaged 206/7, winning 44%.
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You better not do this for our game. :p
 
Oh, damn. then will have to edit my opinion. I saw your write-up and thought you were batting first.
 
Leaning towards MJJ for now. Skills's batting looks too slow for an ODI especially given the conditions where a high score would be required.
 
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