Nordic Ghost Yeti (Scandi Carroll) | Haaland at City

I think he is the strangest player in the history of the game. To be able to put up numbers like he does, while clearly having severe limitations as a footballer. I don’t think there has ever been an extreme like this.

It’s not even “physical gifts” because he is often bullied out of games by stronger defenders.

He has a very limited set of special skills, but almost nothing outside of those particular skills. He is an enigma.
Licha bullied him, and even won headers against him. Remember Haaland crying because Licha was too aggressive? fecker can score but it’s ugly to behold.
 
Licha bullied him, and even won headers against him. Remember Haaland crying because Licha was too aggressive? fecker can score but it’s ugly to behold.

Yeah, we have seen the likes of Licha, Dawson, Gabriel etc… do it now. He doesn’t like it and shys away from it despite his size.
 
Scores goals and wins games, but there's a lot of limitations to his game, I watch him quite closely against Spurs, his first touch isn't that good.

He doesn't create for others, 12 league goals this season, zero assists. Same pattern for the last two seasons, lots of goals, doesn't create for his teammates. Very different numbers compared to Salah and other top goal scorers.
 
A couple of years ago, I said he wouldn’t score goals for us and was ran out of his thread.

Did anyone notice him and Pep just walking past each other without acknowledging themselves? Was a lazy git last night.
 
All the "his movement off the ball more than makes up for what he doesn't do on the ball" guff seems to have thankfully died out.
 
On another day he could have genuinely had 5 goals yesterday. Yes the reason he didn't is most because of his own finishing not quite being up to his usual standard, and it has been like that for a little while now. But, he's still a massive threat in most games, and will still most likely be the leagues top scorer by quite a way come the end of the season.

It could very easily have been 2-0 City before it was 2-0 Spurs and the news would have been very different about Peps new deal fixing everything.

I'm fecking delighted it didn't, but I'm not getting too excited about them or Haaland being overrated just yet.
 
Does he not get chances anymore? Or he simply stopped converting chances into goals (because Rodri is out obviously).
The truth probably lies somewhere in between. He could've had a hat trick yesterday if he had his scoring boots on. However City also aren't the same dominant, chance creating machine this season.
 
There's zero style or finesse or artistry to his game. In 20 years time, no one will be watching his highlights on YouTube, he'll be forgotten.
 
A couple of years ago, I said he wouldn’t score goals for us and was ran out of his thread.

Did anyone notice him and Pep just walking past each other without acknowledging themselves? Was a lazy git last night.
He just came off scoring 4 goals in 2 games for Norway, of course he’d score loads for us. He has close to a goal a game record or better for every team he’s played for as a professional and you think at United he’d be scoring 2 in 14 or something?

Even in this game he hit the crossbar with a nice piece of play and was the only City player who looked like scoring.
 
Some on here are seriously suggesting he isn't really that good just because he plays for City, and he has limitations in his game. Every player does. He scored 36 league goals in his first season, 27 the next and is the top scorer this season so far. Would you rather have Solanke because he is better technically or better aerially?
 
Some on here are seriously suggesting he isn't really that good just because he plays for City, and he has limitations in his game. Every player does. He scored 36 league goals in his first season, 27 the next and is the top scorer this season so far. Would you rather have Solanke because he is better technically or better aerially?
Yes but you cannot look at a player like that. I. Reality how many goals and individual scores doesn't matter, it's irrelevant. How many his team scores is what's important.

City don't score more with him, he just makes them more 1 dimensional and he gets most the goals.

For a team like Norway or not a top team that's great, because they have fewer scoring and creative players, for a more complete team he might not be a good thing.
 
Some on here are seriously suggesting he isn't really that good just because he plays for City, and he has limitations in his game. Every player does. He scored 36 league goals in his first season, 27 the next and is the top scorer this season so far. Would you rather have Solanke because he is better technically or better aerially?
I'd rather have Haaland than most strikers but there are many from the recent past that I'd take over him. Players who were far superior in terms of technical ability but could also heavily contribute in terms of goals. Haaland also has question marks surrounding his abilities in big games.
 
I'd rather have Haaland than most strikers but there are many from the recent past that I'd take over him. Players who were far superior in terms of technical ability but could also heavily contribute in terms of goals. Haaland also has question marks surrounding his abilities in big games.
Aguero for me was significantly better, though injured quite a bit.
 
Yes but you cannot look at a player like that. I. Reality how many goals and individual scores doesn't matter, it's irrelevant. How many his team scores is what's important.

City don't score more with him, he just makes them more 1 dimensional and he gets most the goals.

For a team like Norway or not a top team that's great, because they have fewer scoring and creative players, for a more complete team he might not be a good thing.
It's not irrelevant how many goals a striker scores. And for the record, he doesn't just score goals. He has excellent hold-up play, fantastic off the ball movement and drags defenders all over, opening up a lot of space for his team mates. Last season, he also created the same amount of big chances as Garnacho, Rashford and more than Isak or Kudus, so it is not like he doesn't provide at all either. Maybe they didn't improve much in particular with him, but their robotic like system allows them to play identical football even without particular players. Only the absence of Rodri seems to affect them. They played brilliantly without Gundogan too, he was still one of the best midfielders in the world when they won the treble.

And let's say we bought him, or even Real Madrid. You don't think we - or they - would score much more goals?
 
I do think this is something that really does stand out. How few of his goals are memorable or special. He scores so many, yet they mostly all merge into one blob.

I too enjoy hating on City players but he is the only one that scores Zlatan-esque goals in the game. There are plenty of highlights on top of the tap-ins.
 
I'd rather have Haaland than most strikers but there are many from the recent past that I'd take over him. Players who were far superior in terms of technical ability but could also heavily contribute in terms of goals. Haaland also has question marks surrounding his abilities in big games.
I agree. Just think it is silly to make posts like him not being all that when he is literally scoring more goals than games for every team he has played for. Every striker in the world will have bad games and look poor, especially if they are strikers like Haaland, but this forum loves to shit on him in particular after a poor performance, but they would all pick him as their first choice striker.

I think he should do better in big games. Certainly no Drogba, but then again, Henry also failed to deliver in big games. In fact, if I remember right, he didn't even score a single goal in any final.
 
I'd rather have Haaland than most strikers but there are many from the recent past that I'd take over him. Players who were far superior in terms of technical ability but could also heavily contribute in terms of goals. Haaland also has question marks surrounding his abilities in big games.

When you're so good at what you're doing you arent going to be tasked with everything else.

In football goals wins matches and goals alone. It doesnt matter how good you defend or press, if you're better at scoring goals, much better and above the rest, you will be given the freedom to do what you do best.

It's about the most contributions to scoring goals. If you're a generalist and tend to be better at creating you'll be tasked in the middle where you benefit the team the most.

Can he be put as a DM with his pace and strenght? He could. But that would be like using a surgeon knife to cut a steak.
 
I agree. Just think it is silly to make posts like him not being all that when he is literally scoring more goals than games for every team he has played for. Every striker in the world will have bad games and look poor, especially if they are strikers like Haaland, but this forum loves to shit on him in particular after a poor performance, but they would all pick him as their first choice striker.

I think he should do better in big games. Certainly no Drogba, but then again, Henry also failed to deliver in big games. In fact, if I remember right, he didn't even score a single goal in any final.
He certainly has his strengths. You can't knock his finishing ability. He's quick and has good movement in the box.

True about Henry's record in finals, however he was a far superior player to Haaland and would often turn up in the big Premier League games against us and the other top sides. In comparison, I'm not sure if Haaland has scored a goal away from home against a team from the so called 'Big 6'.
 
It's not irrelevant how many goals a striker scores. And for the record, he doesn't just score goals. He has excellent hold-up play, fantastic off the ball movement and drags defenders all over, opening up a lot of space for his team mates. Last season, he also created the same amount of big chances as Garnacho, Rashford and more than Isak or Kudus, so it is not like he doesn't provide at all either. Maybe they didn't improve much in particular with him, but their robotic like system allows them to play identical football even without particular players. Only the absence of Rodri seems to affect them. They played brilliantly without Gundogan too, he was still one of the best midfielders in the world when they won the treble.

And let's say we bought him, or even Real Madrid. You don't think we - or they - would score much more goals?
His hold-up play isn't excellent, his link up player is poor, Garnacho and Rashford are poor at making chances. Isak and kudus are not that good, and they don't play for dominant teams. Very odd selection of players to compare to, odd flex.

Real Madrid would struggle with him, he would create problems with the players they have.

For us? As I said he's a good player for a weaker team who struggle, so he would probably have helped, but not a huge amount.
 
He certainly has his strengths. You can't knock his finishing ability. He's quick and has good movement in the box.

True about Henry's record in finals, however he was a far superior player to Haaland and would often turn up in the big Premier League games against us and the other top sides. In comparison, I'm not sure if Haaland has scored a goal away from home against a team from the so called 'Big 6'.
Absolutely. I'd have Henry over Haaland every single day. Just a joy to watch, unless it was against us.
 
He certainly has his strengths. You can't knock his finishing ability. He's quick and has good movement in the box.

True about Henry's record in finals, however he was a far superior player to Haaland and would often turn up in the big Premier League games against us and the other top sides. In comparison, I'm not sure if Haaland has scored a goal away from home against a team from the so called 'Big 6'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers

His conversation rate isn't exactly great.
 
When you're so good at what you're doing you arent going to be tasked with everything else.

In football goals wins matches and goals alone. It doesnt matter how good you defend or press, if you're better at scoring goals, much better and above the rest, you will be given the freedom to do what you do best.

It's about the most contributions to scoring goals. If you're a generalist and tend to be better at creating you'll be tasked in the middle where you benefit the team the most.

Can he be put as a DM with his pace and strenght? He could. But that would be like using a surgeon knife to cut a steak.
But there have been players who could score a lot of goals, whilst being technically superior footballers and offering their sides a lot more. I don't feel that he improves City. They are struggling at the moment, but in recent years, I don't believe his absence would have been too damaging to them.

No, he couldn't play as a DM. He'd be hopeless at it.
 
Does he not get chances anymore? Or he simply stopped converting chances into goals (because Rodri is out obviously).
He is in bad form and has missed a lot of good chances in recent matches but has also been getting fewer chances in the main.

Still think he is best jn counter attacking situations when there is space to run into but that rarely exists when playing for city
 
His hold-up play isn't excellent, his link up player is poor, Garnacho and Rashford are poor at making chances. Isak and kudus are not that good, and they don't play for dominant teams. Very odd selection of players to compare to, odd flex.

Real Madrid would struggle with him, he would create problems with the players they have.

For us? As I said he's a good player for a weaker team who struggle, so he would probably have helped, but not a huge amount.
Yes, it is. And he doesn't need to be good at link-up play. Firmino was great at it, doesn't make him a better striker than Haaland. At the end of the day, he scores goals at an absurd rate for whatever team he plays for, and is still only 24.

My point was that he contributes with chance creation, assists and other things, not just goals. I could list other players too, but something tells me you'd see those players as an odd comparison too.
Isak is an all around excellent striker who is probably top 3 in the PL. Kudus is also better than all of our attacking players except maybe Bruno. Not sure why you said odd flex. Why would that be a flex?

You couldn't possibly know that. Why pretend you do? The most likely scenario is that they would be much better than with Mbappé, which is probably why Madrid fans wanted Haaland, and not Mbappé in the first place. Real Madrid need an actual striker, not a LW playing ST. Vini and Haaland together would be a dream for most Madrid fans.

What you're saying here is that he would be good for a weaker team, but not for a top team? That is a seriously bizarre take when talking about a world class striker who has been breaking records for some time now.