No transfers in January

Norwood, Tunnicliffe, Brady, Morrison, Larnell Cole they can easily step in and do a solid job if required as fill in the odd game - we don't need any further unnecessary expenditures on a massive first team wage for a filler role.
 
All this talk of 'value' is Glazer speak. Traditionally under Fergie it was always about getting the best players to United that's why we broke the British transfer record for Gary Pallister, Roy Keane, Andy Cole, Juan Sebastian Veron and Rio Ferdinand. We've stopped outspending the opposition to stay on top because a) we don't have the money to do it under Glazers, for one reason or another and b) Man City can't be competed with in the transfer market, but we should still be able to go out and get the players United need - it's not like we're suddenly bankrupt.
 
Norwood, Tunnicliffe, Brady, Morrison, Larnell Cole they can easily step in and do a solid job if required as fill in the odd game - we don't need any further unnecessary expenditures on a massive first team wage for a filler role.

yeah its a big difference playing in the reserves and asked to play in premier league games, sorry its be utter madness not to buy now.
 
I wouldn't be surprised to see us buy a certain midfielder from Italy and another from Spain in the coming months.
 
Norwood, Tunnicliffe, Brady, Morrison, Larnell Cole they can easily step in and do a solid job if required as fill in the odd game - we don't need any further unnecessary expenditures on a massive first team wage for a filler role.

I'm not sure what you're basing that on, there's a massive gulf between reserves and first team football and none of them have any experience in the premier league. They have bags of potential but from what I've seen of Morrison and Pogba in their admittedly limited outings at the top level I don't think they're quite ready.
 
I doubt it would be a fashionable signing but if we do just want numbers then how about loaning Muntari?
 
I doubt it would be a fashionable signing but if we do just want numbers then how about loaning Muntari?

Couldn't get into the Sunderland team last season.
 
Norwood, Tunnicliffe, Brady, Morrison, Larnell Cole they can easily step in and do a solid job if required as fill in the odd game - we don't need any further unnecessary expenditures on a massive first team wage for a filler role.

I would normally agree with you, but if we can get our hands on a decent player, I doubt it'll just be a filler role.

Lets hope Carrick goes into a demon possessed mode where he maintains his form for the rest of the season whilst not getting injured.

Things like this happen. I remember when we lost Ferdinand for sometime, we had to put in an inexperienced Evans along with Vidic for an elongated period and we all know how that panned out.
 
I think we'll need to dip in now even if it's just a stop gap. When the season started I was fine with our choices in the middle so long as fletcher and carrick were fit. But with fletched out we can't have a midfield with only one senior player who's fit to start each week. It's just asking a lot especially when our other choices seem to be quite injury prone. I personally wouldn't go for a Rodwell at this point. We need an established player, we already have the likes of cleverley as young up coming players, right now we don't need another project. Haven't got a clue who though. I'd maybe go for cabaye but ive not seen enough of him yet but he could be a good fit.
 
I'm inclined to agree with this, but due to the injuries we've had I think players like Gibson and Berbatov will be needed at times, probably Owen too in regards to Europa League games. Diouf can go in January though, if anyone will have him :lol:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Berbatov go if the price is right though.

Diouf will have buyers. as will Kuszczak, neither are bad players but they're not favoured and could have better careers elsewhere.
 
I think we'll need to dip in now even if it's just a stop gap. When the season started I was fine with our choices in the middle so long as fletcher and carrick were fit. But with fletched out we can't have a midfield with only one senior player who's fit to start each week. It's just asking a lot especially when our other choices seem to be quite injury prone. I personally wouldn't go for a Rodwell at this point. We need an established player, we already have the likes of cleverley as young up coming players, right now we don't need another project. Haven't got a clue who though. I'd maybe go for cabaye but ive not seen enough of him yet but he could be a good fit.

Of course, this also didn't factor in Anderson getting a long-term injury.

I thought we needed another body in central midfield this season. Now we've lost two more for the majority of the the season we're screwed without getting someone else on board.

Seeing as the club apparently knew Fletcher came into the season with a diagnosis of UC, the fact we didn't sign at least one additional central midfielder seems like absolute fecking madness in hindsight.
 
Of course, this also didn't factor in Anderson getting a long-term injury.

I thought we needed another body in central midfield this season. Now we've lost two more for the majority of the the season we're screwed without getting someone else on board.

Seeing as the club apparently knew Fletcher came into the season with a diagnosis of UC, the fact we didn't sign at least one additional central midfielder seems like absolute fecking madness in hindsight.

Yeah like I said I didn't think it was essential we signed anyone going into the summer but also as you said if the club knew that fletcher could relapse I'm suprised they took the risk, but then we persisted with Hargreaves for a long time. I think fergie will have to try for someone, one senior midfielder capable of playing every week is just crazy. If carrick gets an injury, even for just a month it could be a big problem and cost us.
 
Yeah like I said I didn't think it was essential we signed anyone going into the summer but also as you said if the club knew that fletcher could relapse I'm suprised they took the risk, but then we persisted with Hargreaves for a long time. I think fergie will have to try for someone, one senior midfielder capable of playing every week is just crazy. If carrick gets an injury, even for just a month it could be a big problem and cost us.

We did. At a time when we had at least 5, arguably 6, other specialist CMs to choose from.

We started this season with Fletcher plus 3, arguably 4, specialist CMs to choose from. One of whom - Gibson - we tried to sell in the summer.
 
We did. At a time when we had at least 5, arguably 6, other specialist CMs to choose from.

We started this season with Fletcher plus 3, arguably 4, specialist CMs to choose from. One of whom - Gibson - we tried to sell in the summer.

Yeah I know I agree with you, it's more a comment on the united staff. Maybe they're just overly optimistic, maybe fergies been taking gambles etc. it makes his decision to let oshea go more strange for me. When you've got these concerns in the middle and over the fall back areas, having an established player who can step into either role in the squad would have been a good idea for me, at least until we knew if the likes of clev would step up and fletch had recovered.
 
Yeah I know I agree with you, it's more a comment on the united staff. Maybe they're just overly optimistic, maybe fergies been taking gambles etc. it makes his decision to let oshea go more strange for me. When you've got these concerns in the middle and over the fall back areas, having an established player who can step into either role in the squad would have been a good idea for me, at least until we knew if the likes of clev would step up and fletch had recovered.

Yes. Good point.

Of course, letting O'Shea and Brown move on freed up a big chunk of wages to cover the wages of the players we did sign. Plus, whatever we earned on their transfers.

It's getting harder and harder not to blame financial constraints for the situation we're in.
 
the big question is, whats available on the market?

There is no point buying stop gaps for the sake of getting a body in, we must buy if it improves the team

Javi Martinez, he'd cost a huge outlay but would be ideal IMO. I don't think stop gaps are a good idea either, the illness Fletcher has is very serious, this could well be a Hargo type of situation where we wait and wait and wait for any good news and get none.
 
Yes. Good point.

Of course, letting O'Shea and Brown move on freed up a big chunk of wages to cover the wages of the players we did sign. Plus, whatever we earned on their transfers.

It's getting harder and harder not to blame financial constraints for the situation we're in.

Yeah, I mean I don't doubt that we have some constraints but then at the same time I'm sure we could have kept on O'shea if Fergie had wanted to. Didn't we give Clev and Welbeck pay rises, a few months back? Plus we know we were enquiring about the likes of sneijder/nasri, and so even if we couldn't pay the fees that were suggested we must have known they'd cost at least 25mil. And not to mention that he chose to sign Young when he didn't have to. I think if Fergie wanted there's enough money to buy a good midfielder, but he's either been too optimistic at the start of the season or he's waiting for a certain type of player which he hasn't found yet.
 
Given the lack of midfield options, we almost have to spend in January. Cleverley might be back after Christmas, but he's not stayed fit for any long period of time. Anderson is out until February, Fletcher is out indefinitely(possibly career ending), and Carrick is the only first team CM fit. In order to have enough fit players to fight for the league, we have to buy someone for the midfield. Our midfield is hurt by defenders being required to play in midfield. Pogba and Morrison don't seem to be ready to burst onto the big stage just yet.

I would love to see us sign Javi Martinez or a similar player because we need one. We also need an attack-minded midfielder so we're not playing Rooney there when Cleverley is out.
 
Do we need another centre half also with just Rio Jones Smalling and Evans??? Maybe someone like Rodwell who can at a push could play both positions. He also fits the young good value for money (long term & sell on value) model that we have been buying.
 
the big question is, whats available on the market?

There is no point buying stop gaps for the sake of getting a body in, we must buy if it improves the team

I dont see how its stop-gap when we needed a midfielder even before the Fletcher news.
 
I think we will delve in. It's not ideal but another injury or two and we could be in trouble.
 
We only need to go back a few years to see that Ferguson recognises that a good signing in January in a weakened position can reinvigorate you.

The Larsson signing is a perfect example. With our strike force severely understrength already and then depleted due to injuries, we made a very astute signing and it did us the world of good. He'll do the same again on one level or another.
 
We won't sign a midfielder in January. Everybody and their dog can see we need too but I still don't think we will.
 
Vidic and Fletcher out long term. Anderson out till February. Cleverley to return in January. The twins still getting injured too often.

If Saf does get someone what about one or two loan signings?
 
I think Fergie is looking long term, will have his targets in mind, but prob for the summer, this season is a "transition" job, almost a write off. I anticipate some interesting activity in the summer but nada in January apart from a loan signing or two. IMHO