No transfers in January

I would be shocked if we do sign anyone in the winter transfer window, especially considering that we are in the Europa League. By the close of the window, we 'should' have the large majority of our first choice XI back fit and playing again.

With Fletcher going, I am not sure that even makes a requirement to sign someone now. I doubt he'll have a sustained period off and will probably aim to come back in the New Year. Even if he takes the rest of the season off, we will be expecting Cleverley and Anderson back and with Carrick hitting form again, and presuming he stays there, there is only really one other CM position to fill and we have up to 5 players who can fill that role.

Obviously, this all boils down to what happens in the next few weeks with the injuries but with the added cost of buying in January and the right calibre of player probably not being available, I don't really understand why we'd want to hit the shops!
 
With Fletcher going, I am not sure that even makes a requirement to sign someone now. I doubt he'll have a sustained period off and will probably aim to come back in the New Year.

Did you read about Fletcher's condition? I doubt we'll see him again this season, in fact it's not certain he will return, the illness he has is very serious.
 
Our fit natural centre mids:

- Carrick
- Gibson

That is all.
 
And you are thinking we don't have any injuries in 2012? :wenger:

Not at all but when the windows closes, we will have most players back fit again. I am not saying that we don't need a CM but I just cannot believe that January is the right time to buy someone. There is not going to be many players who are available that will make a massive difference AND be available at a decent price.

Obviously we will have injuries in the squad in the NY but signing someone of the calibre of Gibson is not worth it in my opinion
 
Fergie can no longer ignore the issue, we need at least 1 CM in January.
 
Our fit natural centre mids:

- Carrick
- Gibson

That is all.

Yep. there is no doubt whatsoever that we will be in for a midfielder now. Nae dow boot tha.

It's no longer about "making sure that player is better than what we already have" any fecking player is better than no player at all.

We're a Micheal Carrick injury away from worrying about 4th let alone pipping City to first.
 
Phil Jones h'ain't playing centre back this season.
 
This is getting complicated with every further news of injured player in the squad.
 
If he doesn't bring in anyone at all I guess there are money constraints because there is no way he can be happy with having just Carrick, Gibson, Giggs and Jones.
 
It's really is baffling that the club have known of Fletch's position with this injury and still didn't acted to sign a new midfielder.
 
A loan will need to be the minimum now really, in all likelihood it'll force our hand to make the midfield signing sooner than we may have wanted.
 
It's really is baffling that the club have known of Fletch's position with this injury and still didn't acted to sign a new midfielder.

Yeah, it is a bit confusing. That said, it is always like this with injuriies and sickness, isn't it? We faced it with Hargreaves. He'll be ready in a couple of months is what you'd think and hence not really chase a MF. Then a couple of months laters its another couple of months and so on.

I'm thinking there'll be some medical advice given on the issue.
 
A loan will need to be the minimum now really, in all likelihood it'll force our hand to make the midfield signing sooner than we may have wanted.

This is a more likely option IMO but again who is going to be available at the right level of quality to get in?
 
We need to act now in January. Especially for the midfield area.

Fletch is out for an extended period of time.
Anderson is not back until February.
Cleverley is injured, but due back in the New Year (let's hope he can keep fit!).
Giggs is 38.
Gibson is decent, but not brilliant.
Jones can do a decent/good job in midfield but isn't a natural CM.

Thank god Carrick has been in great form lately but he can't do it all on his own. SAF must buy a midfielder in January.
 
I think if we buy or not depends on how serious the injuries to Anderson and Cleverley are.

Only the club knows, but we are more than capable of managing with Carrick, Anderson and Cleverley mixed in with other players coming out of position.
 
If he doesn't bring in anyone at all I guess there are money constraints because there is no way he can be happy with having just Carrick, Gibson, Giggs and Jones.

I don't buy this "money constraints" business.

It's an estimated £20m we've lost from not going past the group stages in the Champions League.

You really think they'd rather risk losing that £20m outright, aswell as not having a team to challenge for the Premier League and FA Cup than spending it on a midfielder?

I think it was Ferguson rolling the dice, trusting what he had and what is coming through. His hand is forced now though in my opinion.

I'd say his comments about "not buying in January" came out at around the same time Fletcher and the club would have decided on this extended break. Coincidence?
 
I think if we buy or not depends on how serious the injuries to Anderson and Cleverley are.

Regardless of how serious their current injuries are, we know both of them are prone to injuries, so it'd be a risk either way.
 
the big question is, whats available on the market?

There is no point buying stop gaps for the sake of getting a body in, we must buy if it improves the team
 
Regardless of how serious their current injuries are, we know both of them are prone to injuries, so it'd be a risk either way.

In that case we may aswell get rid of them both.

You have to give them a chance to prove their fitness.
 
I know it's pretty unlike us but I wouldn't be amazed to see a loan of some sort in the window.
 
Buying right now is extremely difficult as the player will not necessary be of quality and the amount of money spent would be huge.It was a big gamble not to sign a proper midfielder during the summer regardless of Fletcher's disease.Now things are even worse
 
the big question is, whats available on the market?

There is no point buying stop gaps for the sake of getting a body in, we must buy if it improves the team

Oridinarily I'd agree with this but we are far too short in midfield to a degree where it could make us go backwards so in those circumstances I think we need to lower our expectations and even sign someone to maintain what we have.

Presents the same issue though, who?
 
Did I dream it or does Cabaye have an £11m release clause?

He might be an option, if so.
 
We need to act now in January. Especially for the midfield area.

Fletch is out for an extended period of time.
Anderson is not back until February.
Cleverley is injured, but due back in the New Year (let's hope he can keep fit!).
Giggs is 38.
Gibson is decent, but not brilliant.
Jones can do a decent/good job in midfield but isn't a natural CM.

Thank god Carrick has been in great form lately but he can't do it all on his own. SAF must buy a midfielder in January.

Not a good situation for a club with United's aspirations. Unfortunately, I can see us arsing around playing Valencia and Park in the middle before buying someone in Jan.
 
In that case we may aswell get rid of them both.

You have to give them a chance to prove their fitness.

That's ridiculous, not what I was saying at all.

You can't rely on Carrick, Cleverley and Anderson to be fit for the next 5 months, that's three players for two or three positions.
 
the big question is, whats available on the market?

There is no point buying stop gaps for the sake of getting a body in, we must buy if it improves the team

Considering the fact that Carrick is the only fit midfielder we have, just about anyone would improve the team.
 
If we have the money (as Gill always claims we do) then I don't see why paying big money in January is a problem. We might have to pay an extra £5 million to secure a player in January but that could be better than waiting until the summer and have other clubs become interested in the same player thus driving the price up further.

It's not likely to happen but I think Javi Martinez or Rodwell would be perfect signings. They'd cost £20-30 million but both would improve the squad now as well as being young enough to improve their own games over the next 5+years.
 
Oridinarily I'd agree with this but we are far too short in midfield to a degree where it could make us go backwards so in those circumstances I think we need to lower our expectations and even sign someone to maintain what we have.

Presents the same issue though, who?

Rodwell would not surprise me in the slightest. Young, English, Potential and good enough to give us some depth right away.

He'd give us what we need in terms of a midfielder to call on and it would satisfy Ferguson's want for a player who could be great for the next decade so he'd not be "surplus to requirements in a years time". The Glazer's would be satisfied with the "resale potential".
 
Time to move for Sneijder, Modric, Goetze and Hazard in this window :drool: