Its weak because its weak. Giggs is our only beacon of pure quality in CM and he's 38. Clev may become one but its too soon.
No transfers in January
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Its weak because its weak. Giggs is our only beacon of pure quality in CM and he's 38. Clev may become one but its too soon.
Well I've already disagreed with you on that count. It seems you're just desperate for any kind of signing in central midfield. Thankfully Fergie has more sense than that.
Our midfield isn't weak but it's not as good as it should be at a top club. Then again you have teams like Milan or Chelsea who try to compete at the highest level and have midfields about the same level as we do, the only three top European sides with significantly better midfielders are Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. There seems to be a lack of genuinely quality midfielder out there right now.
Then you have a team like Tottenham who are a level below us as a team yet have a much better midfield.
Then you have a team like Tottenham who are a level below us as a team yet have a much better midfield.
Agreed. I reckon the signing of one proper midfielder would sort our midfield issues, and I think that's what Fergie was looking for in summer when he went after Nasri and Sneijder.
Also I don't know why everybody seems convinced that we won't sign a midfielder in this january considering we tried to get Nasri and Sneijder.
Im desperate for a nice cup of coffee and some more sleep. Not football. This is one of the weakest CM SAF had so far. Honestly if all our central midfielders were on sale I doubt that they will end up holding a first team place at another big side bar maybe Carrick. Clev's got potential though and Jones is a future great player (hopefully in defense)
Theres no way we buy a midfielder with Ando, Carrick, Cleverley, and Jones in the mix.
Spurs have a "much better midfield"? Modric is pure class but the rest of them are at their level. You could argue VdV but he comes with enough baggage and injury issues.
I suppose it depends where Fergie see's Jones' furture lying. If he's still dead set on him being a cetre half then a midfield signing either now or in the Summer is surely inevitable.
Bale, Modric, and VDV are all lovely players who'd have a shot at cracking our starting lineup. Then you have the likes of Lennon and Huddlestone who have improved greatly too.
When he referred to midfield I presumed he was referring to central midfield as that was the topic we were discussing.
VDV would improve our squad but wouldn't be a regular starter. He's practically a forward and essentially plays in Rooney's position. Huddlestone is always injured (has he even played this season?) and no better than what we have. Parker and Sandro are no better than we have.
If we're talking wingers... obviously Bale is class. Lennon wouldn't even get close to our team. Young, Nani and Valencia are all leagues above him.
Lennon and Huddlestone have not improved "greatly", infact they haven't improved at all and have regressed especially Huddlestone.
Huddlestone has been injured but he was very good the season they finished 4th.
He's struggled a lot since then though.
2 days in. Disappointing so far.
If you are already disappointed after only 2 days, then get ready for a long month Prateik!
SAF has said he will only buy if the right player becomes available. In my experience unavailable players only suddenly become available when there are large, often OTT fees involved, as we saw last Jan.
Fergie will not offer silly money in Jan, so i have resigned myself to waiting till the summer for our business to start. Whether or not SAF's unwillingness to buy now could cost us the title, it's hard to say. So we will simply have to wait and see to judge the wisdom of his decisions.
I dont expect us to sign anyone either.
Its the lack of rumors that is disappointing.
Why hasnt Goetze given an interview to a German radio station stating his desire to play for United and why hasnt Huntelaar been spotted at the airport yet...
The Huntelaar thing will probably happen on the 31st tho.
Its the lack of rumors that is disappointing.
Why hasnt Goetze given an interview to a German radio station stating his desire to play for United and why hasnt Huntelaar been spotted at the airport yet...
The Huntelaar thing will probably happen on the 31st tho.
Surprised PIG hasn't been shipped off yet. You'd think he'd be a first day signing for somebody. Not like the club hasn't had him in the shop window since last transfer period!
I don't understand that, Hunterlaar is terrible. If he can't do anything in Italy where players go to play before they retire then he's never going to do anything in the Premier League. He's found his level at Schalke.
Hunterlaar, I don't see why we would have any interest in him at all.
Me neither.
We always seem to be linked with him. It might have been a possibility when he was leaving Ajax but he's done nothing since and yet linked with us when at Madrid, Milan and now Schalke.
He is a goal poacher, very much in the vein of Inzaghi. Look at his record this season hes somewhere between 20 and 30 goals or something silly like that.
We have a goal poacher in Hernandez, one with pace.
No, he's not. Cleverley has shown us at the start of the season that he's got a lot of quality, while Carrick has been consistently performing in there throughout the season. I don't know how you can say that Giggs is our only quality midfielder, when he wouldn't make it into our first team with everyone fit.
We don't.Or any other player the press,twitter and ITK want to throw up for this transfer window.
If Giggs could play week in week out then he'll be first teamer. Clev has potential but we're relying too much on this kid.
That Huntelaar ship sailed long ago, don't understand why we continue to be linked with him.
I hope we sign a midfielder. Yes Carrick has been in great form, Anderson is back and hope Cleverley will be back soon, but it still feels like we're light in that area. You can't rely on a young lad who's just broke through into the first team, but has spent most of the season injured (piss off Kevn Davies!)
I hope we sign a midfielder. Yes Carrick has been in great form, Anderson is back and hope Cleverley will be back soon, but it still feels like we're light in that area. You can't rely on a young lad who's just broke through into the first team, but has spent most of the season injured (piss off Kevn Davies!)
But what's wrong with that? Giggs is a quality player. It doesn't matter how old he is. For young players if you're good enough you're old enough and it should be the same for older players. Though if Fletcher was fit I imagine he would be starting too. Our midfield isn't the best it could be but it's not weak either. We haven't even been able to play most of them all season. Imagine if we'd actually had a few more players fit in the middle. We'd probably have a decent lead at the top.
I was given the reason why Giggs doesn't play week in week out and CM is weak. If Giggs was 25 yrs old then it wouldn't be weak but at this point in time our CM is weak. We lack quality and that is not going to come from the likes of Ando or Fletcher.
But what does Giggs's age matter? If he's good enough than age shouldn't be an issue and Giggs is good enough. Carrick and Fletcher are proven players who have played a big role in our recent success. Ando and Clev have great potential but even whilst we're waiting for them to improve they're still good enough for the squad. That's five midfielders there, three who have proven themselves at the top level and two who have the potential to be stars. As I've said we could use one more top quality midfielder i.e. Modric, but the midfield isn't weak by any means. Had more of them been fit for this first half of the season we'd probably be clear at the top of the league and that's against a strong city team.
Well his age matters because he's unable to start anywhere near as many games as he could in the past.
True but we've not been over reliant on giggs in these last few years at least not in my opinion and we've got enough quality in the squad as far as I'm concerned that we don't need to be over reliant on him now. However as I've said before with both fletcher and vidic out I think we could use an extra midfielder or defender for the second half of the season.
I think Dev will kill himself one day because of lack of quality signings.
I hope we don't make any signings.
I hope we don't make any signings.
Cleverley has potential, yes, but he's already fulfilling a lot of it. Giggs can still do a job for us when he's played in the centre of midfield, but when you look at what he does there now, compared to what Cleverley did at the start of the season, I think it's clear to us that Cleverley's a better midfielder than Giggs. To be honest, I think the idea that Giggs can't play most games is nonsense. He's a professional athlete who keeps himself in prime condition. Obviously, he is getting older, however he should still be able to handle starting most weeks. I think he's generally rotated because he's no longer at the level where he can hold a starting place week in week out.
It can be argued that we rely too much on Cleverley, and that he only played well over a few games. Firstly, we don't rely on him too much, because we have been able to keep on winning without him. Secondly, I don't think his form at the start of the season was a coincidence. It's clear that he's going to be a top midfielder for us, and that he already has a lot of ability.
Giggs is 38. SAF himself had said that he can't play 2 games in a row and I agree with him on that. If he was 25 he would have walked in this team, easily.
Clev has potential. In fact I was one of the few who disagreed with SAF in letting him go on loan (I thought that he was ready to act as Scholes cover + he would have benefitted in playing at least a year with the red haired genius). However as I said before, however I do feel we're asking too much out of the guy. When Scholes came to scene he had Keano at his side to cover his arse. Keano had Ince while Ince had Robson. The present side have a bunch of decent midfielders who lack the quality/consistency to be considered as first teamer.
I don't think cleverley is a better midfielder yet though. He might become better but not yet I don't think we're that reliant on him. Had he been fit though for more of the season it would have been a bonus, similarly with the rest of the midfielders.
I'm just going to put this here:
Caught offside is reporting we're in for Hazard.
However, a guy on RI has been saying it's a done deal for about 2 weeks now.
Caught offside is reporting we're in for Hazard.
However, a guy on RI has been saying it's a done deal for about 2 weeks now.
Off to the M'Villa's/Banegas/Goetze/Eriksson/Reus/Hamsik threads lads !!!
Most probably you and caught offsite got it from the same souce - a wum on ri
It has nothing to do with reliance. He's a better midfielder and that's no misty revisionism. The boy's football brain is top class.