With regards to the OP, I think sometimes films might need to be looked back upon a bit before people call them all time greats.
"No great films in the last 10 years"
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Fight Club was in 1990??
1999 - apologies, a typo on my part in the OP
No problem at all. Both Requiem for a Dream, The Prestige, and Zodiac are among my all time favourites, and plenty of others are right up there, such as City of God, Collateral, Oldboy and There Will Be Blood.
Wow. You've not seen many films then have you?
In the Mood for Love's in my all time top 3. Films don't get much better, let's put it that way.
Some like it Hot, The Producers, The Odd Couple, Blazing Saddles, Monty Python and the Holy Grail. All comedies, all still much loved.
Dr. Strangelove.
The Apartment, City Lights, Modern Times, Duck Soup, Stir Crazy, Planes Trains..., Annie Hall and all.
Haha not that they're me top 4, but I thought Back To The Future was amazing as a kid - cult classic.
American History X though is a brilliant film, and I think it handles the content very well.
Can't believe Toy Story isn't in that list.
I agree ,it would be in my top 3 with ease.
I hated American History X. I thought it was mutton dressed up as lamb.
I though Inglorious Basterds was brilliant. I reckon that could be in my Top 10.
Usual suspects would definitely be in my top 10 though.
Usual suspects would definitely be in my top 10 though.
Question of personal taste and preference Spoony! I'm sure from the movie thread, I'd disagree with a lot of reviews, as I'm sure you do.
Saying that I've not seen half the films you mentioned earlier, and from the Movie Review thread, you seem to have a somewhat cultured taste, so will check a few out.
I totally see your point. That's why I mentioned the criteria, for some people movies are only about the adventure and escapism. That's why these things are so subjective.
Total bargain!
The Apartment is an excellent call, Jack Lemon is one of the best comedy actors ever. He was also in “Glengarry Glen Ross” which would almost certainly make my top 10 list, just look at the cast and the writer, every one was a powerhouse performance... absolute brilliant movie!
Well, I'm sure someone on here could knock up a list of good movies made in the last ten years. And cultured taste...pretentious taste....I dunno, I just enjoy watching movies.
Yeah, Glengarry was brilliant. It seems to be somewhat underrated and all.
And I'm currently downloading Cache.
These lists are based on current hype and test of time. There are plenty of great films from the noughties. The foreign and indie scene are deeper than ever....an empire list is voted by people who only really know their mainstream film, which is fair enough, the past 10 years have been pretty bad mainstream wise, but even then, 2007 alone had more better films than 2 of the 90's ones in that top 10(being There Will Be Blood, Zodiac and No Country obviously).
Yi Yi, The Class, Amelie, 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days, Hidden, 2046, A Prophet, Let The Right One In, Lives of Others....
More great English speaking films? Sure...
Dogville, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, A History of Violence, Munich, Punch Drunk Love, Mulholland Drive, Before Sunset, Children of Men, The Man Who Wasn't There...
Yi Yi, The Class, Amelie, 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days, Hidden, 2046, A Prophet, Let The Right One In, Lives of Others....
More great English speaking films? Sure...
Dogville, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, A History of Violence, Munich, Punch Drunk Love, Mulholland Drive, Before Sunset, Children of Men, The Man Who Wasn't There...
I have thought this for a while now but I think it is quite clear that at some point during the last ten years, television for the first time truly surpassed film in quality. Whatever great films that have been produced over the last decade, they don't collectively overpower the likes of The Sopranos, The West Wing and The Wire.
Maybe, if you restrict yourself to Hollywood/Brit film. Outside that there are plenty of things that blow overhyped TV into the weeds.
Without looking on Rotten I’ll bet Glengarry gets a really high score by the critics, Pacino is so intense in this movie, i’d also guess the movie is not so mainstream as David Mamet is probably an acquired taste, given that his screenplays generally originate from stage plays which are obviously dialogue driven ( I have a notion in terms of dialogue, David Mamet is what Tarantino tries to be) I saw American Buffalo as a Play with Al Pacino in the lead role. I think David Mamet is a genius
Its really excellent, I’m a big Autouill fan
That's a good point actually, I read an article to that effect saying that a lot of actors were looking to TV roles.
TV shows are getting far better crews / directors / budgets too, so it's a far better proposition! Look at Steve Buscemi and Scorcese with Broadwalk Empire.
Perhaps so, but the balance between American Television and American Film has always been in favour of the latter, though the pendulum has definately shifted in recent years, as this is ultimately a 'why has Hollywood had a poor ten years' thread - it is fair to say that British film has had a very good ten years.
You mean Pacino? De Niro is not in Glengarry. Brilliant film though, fantastic cast.
Yeah thats what I meant
Alan Arkin is immense.
"Criminals come and they take..they steal the phones!?!"
"Criminals come and they take..they steal the phones!?!"
Well TV gives you more time as well so you can tell a more complete story. I've always felt that books should be adapted into miniseries instead of films. That way less stuff will get cut out and less reworking of the original plot is required.
That and the rising budgets is what has allowed for the rise of television drama - it is common now for the flagship programmes of the big networks to have a budget of $4-5 Million an episode, and this combined with acting on television no longer being seen as a much lesser thing as it once was, allowing for crossover between the two which used to be a rare thing.
They all are, Jack Lemmon said it's the best casting ensemble he'd ever worked with.Me and the missus took to heart Pacinos line “don’t open your mouth until you know the play” we’ve gone by that rule ever since....
classic That movie is full of zingerstbh, the television vs film debate is kind of stupid. mainstream tv just like mainstream film just like mainstream music is no way near the standard it used to be. but if you look in the right places away from mainstream, be it hbo, be it the indie scene in music, be it foreign films, you'll find greatness.
most forms of mainstream entertainment quite been completely watered down to please the general audience because most just prefer it simply and easy, that's where the money is at. it's why a show like 2 and a half men could pay charlie sheen alone more than what the whole cast of comedians on hbo probably get.
most forms of mainstream entertainment quite been completely watered down to please the general audience because most just prefer it simply and easy, that's where the money is at. it's why a show like 2 and a half men could pay charlie sheen alone more than what the whole cast of comedians on hbo probably get.
I thought In the Mood for Love was good, but in my opinion the reviews were a little bit over the top for me.
For what it is worth, some of my favourite films are (in no particular order):
Let the right one in, 4 months 3 weeks 2 days, Raging Bull, Hero, Juno and City of God.
Snatch was 2000 as well. But then again, if we're talking last 10 years it just misses out. But then again, I've already mentioned one movie from the last 10 years I just might put on my top 10 (The Departed), and can think of a few more possible candidates. When I quite like movies from even the 70's and onwards, I won't be able to have a movie from every other year in my top 10.
Sure they are... Not at the same rate as people were turned on to Will Ferrell and Adam Sandler, but then again how's that a decent criteria for epicness to stand the test of time?
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This is as pointless a list as Q Magazine's list of best ever albums would be. And your mate obviously is a tasteless buffoon.
The list is just based on the generation that selected them. Anyway, very soon all will be over. The birth-death process will take care of this.
Surprised not to see LOTR on that list.
For me Pacino's best film was scar face, De Niro's Taxi Driver, Di Caprio's The Basket Ball Diaries, Tarrantino's Pulp Fiction and Spacey's The Usual Suspects so for me that's five of my favourite Hollywood actors/director all with best films pre 2000. Post 2000 Million Dollar Baby might make the list though and Old Boy and City of God would be two of the first down.
Dogday > Godfather > Scarface for Pacino performance IMO. Scarface marked the moment he discovered he could just shout manically in every film and get away with it be called brilliant acting.
Infernal Affairs is 2002 (feck the Departed) & Pans Labyrinth 2006.
Infernal Affairs is 2002 (feck the Departed) & Pans Labyrinth 2006.