Gaming Nintendo 3DS vs PS Vita thread.

Just tried the Project X Zone. It's good... I think. It seems fun but I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be doing. Kind of the same seeling I get when playing fighting games, not really "getting" the combos and different moves etc. I'll keep at it though because I think it's good.

It's nice and colorful though which is nice.
 
Have Donkey Kong 3DS on order from Amazon. Is it as good as Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, Olly?
 
Hard to say really. Game play wise it's up there with them but I think it lacks a bit of the atmosphere of the originals (still has a great atmosphere but the originals have some of the best in any games IMO). So without trying to rank it among them I'll just say it's definitely a very good installment.
 
Donkey Kong, Luigi, Mario, Zelda.. Christ, how will I get anything else done this summer?
 
Donkey Kong, Luigi, Mario, Zelda.. Christ, how will I get anything else done this summer?

You don't need to do anything else when you've got games to play :D

Played Project X Zone another couple of times. Seem to be understanding it a bit better now. Hopefully it wont end up being one of those games that shoots up to crazy prices as soon as it's out.
 
So I've bought Persona 4 recently and been playing this for the last couple of days, it's really incredibly engaging. It starts very slowly, the first 3 hours were basically a tutorial but I liked it - I don't usually grasp such games straightaway so it was nice to get some hint.
 
Came very close to buying a 3DS last night to take on holiday with me for 3 weeks.

I can't help feeling that the vast majortiy of games are aimed at little kids though - is there a challenge to many titles?

Granted, I know I could lose 50 hours in a pokemon game quite easily, but is it worth forking out £200 for a 3DS plus a game, or shall I just save the cash to put towards a PS4 at the end of the year?
 
I've never understood what the whole "kids game" thing means. If you're talking solely based on difficulty then I'm assuming that would mean games like Hercules on the PS1 that can be beaten in an hour or two. While I'm sure a few do exist, I personally can't think of any 3DS games like that yet.
 
In the store yesterday over half of the games looked like they were targeted at 8 year olds.

I've little experience with Nintendo post N64, and wondered if the majority of releases were targeted at a far younger demographic. Just wondered whether i'd end up spending £150 on a console that i'd only want one new game every 6 months...
 
I think some people think non violent=kids.

Yeah unfortunately there are a lot that do.

Heardy I'm not quite sure what to say. The style of how a game looks has hardly any bearing on how it plays or how challenging it it. As an example, here's Henry Hatsworth on the DS;



I imagine going by what you said if you saw that sitting on a shelf you'd think that's one of the most "kiddy" games, and really simple or whatever because of how it looks. But for me, after the first few levels it gets very hard and offers a lot of challenge. I've died and had to retry levels in that game more than I have in plenty of games that'd be called "mature" or whatever.
 
Yeah unfortunately there are a lot that do.

Heardy I'm not quite sure what to say. The style of how a game looks has hardly any bearing on how it plays or how challenging it it. As an example, here's Henry Hatsworth on the DS;



I imagine going by what you said if you saw that sitting on a shelf you'd think that's one of the most "kiddy" games, and really simple or whatever because of how it looks. But for me, after the first few levels it gets very hard and offers a lot of challenge. I've died and had to retry levels in that game more than I have in plenty of games that'd be called "mature" or whatever.


Olly, consider me schooled. That's the kind of game I was talking about. To me at face value, it looks like it wouldn't interest me, but I may have said that about the Professor Layton games before giving them a go.

Given you seem to be the fount of all knowledge Nintendo, is the XL worth getting over the 3DS, and where is best to make said purchase. Are you aware of any decent game/console bundles...?

Cheers mate.
 
Olly, consider me schooled. That's the kind of game I was talking about. To me at face value, it looks like it wouldn't interest me, but I may have said that about the Professor Layton games before giving them a go.

Given you seem to be the fount of all knowledge Nintendo, is the XL worth getting over the 3DS, and where is best to make said purchase. Are you aware of any decent game/console bundles...?

Cheers mate.

No problem ;)

I only have the original 3DS, but from what I've seen/heard I would recommend the XL. There are some people that prefer the original but the majority opinion seems to be that the XL is better, I think because the battery life and screens are a bit improved. Plus when I tried it in a shop it felt more comfortable. Sarni has upgraded recently so he could answer better than me :)

Currys currently have the Red XL for £129, here. Or for a bundle offer at Game you can get the Fire Emblem or Monster Hunter bundles for £159. Details on the offer here.

With those bundles, the game is pre-installed though, so personally I'd say the Currys offer is better, because you don't have to pay for a game you might not want, or if you do you could buy that and a physical copy for about the same price as the Game bundle.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that over here the 3DS XL doesn't come with a charger, but you can get mains or USB ones that work for less than £2 on ebay.
 
XL doesn't come with a charger in the UK either, but as Olly said you can pick them up fairly cheaply.
 
Cheers for the links, and the info on the charger!

Why wouldn't they include a charger? Money grabbing cnuts!!!

Still that £129 offer at Curry's is pretty decent, much obliged.
 
Cheers for the links, and the info on the charger!

Why wouldn't they include a charger? Money grabbing cnuts!!!

Still that £129 offer at Curry's is pretty decent, much obliged.

Apparently it's because you can use DSXL chargers, so upgraders don't have to bear the cost. Personally, I think it's bollocks and they should provide one.
 
In case anyone is interested, the Zelda Oracle of Ages / Seasons games are available for download at £4.49 each. They go up in price on the 21st June, but only by about a quid each.

Also, if you were thinking about getting Animal Crossing as a download title, it's going to be £34.99 so the luxury of not having to change game carts when you're out and about might be worth the extra fiver.
 
I'd pay more to have the luxury of owning a physical copy ;)

Isn't there supposed to be two Project X Zone demos? I've got one but where's the other?

EDIT: It's coming in June, thought I saw that it was out already.
 
I normally want the physical copy as well... Mainly so I can be playing it on the Wednesday/Thursday :lol:

But for this game, it just seems best to have it there all the time without having to bring my full carry case / not be able to bring something like Mario Kart or Monster Hunter when I could have had them inserted. Not to mention I still have £15 on my eShop account from a voucher I won, so I'm only paying £19.99.

I might end up buying my girlfriend a physical copy though to use on my second 3DS xD
 
So, has anyone played Soul Sacrifice yet? Is it any good?
 
Persona 4 looks like it's coming to end after 31 hours (I guess I still have 3-4 hours before what I expect to happen happens) but it does seem a little short-ish compared to what other people posted - perhaps there's going to be some twist in the plot that will keep it going for longer than I anticipate right now. It's easily the best game I've played on Vita and funny thing is it'll be the first Japanese RPG I'll ever complete - I've just never been into this sort of game before. I think I'm going to slightly alter my taste after this experience.

I'll be ordering Donkey Kong and Animal Crossing next week and I still have Luigi's Mansion, Professor Layton, Paper Mario and Monster Hunter 3 all lying pretty much untouched as well as Fire Emblem Awakening and Lego City on my SD card so 3DS will be taking over after I'm done with Persona 4, for a considerable period of time most likely. I have to finish some of them to get back to Vita and Assassins Creed, Gravity Rush and LittleBigPlanet that I'm yet to complete. Handheld games overload!
 
Persona 4 looks like it's coming to end after 31 hours (I guess I still have 3-4 hours before what I expect to happen happens) but it does seem a little short-ish compared to what other people posted - perhaps there's going to be some twist in the plot that will keep it going for longer than I anticipate right now. It's easily the best game I've played on Vita and funny thing is it'll be the first Japanese RPG I'll ever complete - I've just never been into this sort of game before. I think I'm going to slightly alter my taste after this experience.

I'll be ordering Donkey Kong and Animal Crossing next week and I still have Luigi's Mansion, Professor Layton, Paper Mario and Monster Hunter 3 all lying pretty much untouched as well as Fire Emblem Awakening and Lego City on my SD card so 3DS will be taking over after I'm done with Persona 4, for a considerable period of time most likely. I have to finish some of them to get back to Vita and Assassins Creed, Gravity Rush and LittleBigPlanet that I'm yet to complete. Handheld games overload!


:lol: 31 hours? You're not even halfway through! What was the last dungeon you completed?
 
:lol: 31 hours? You're not even halfway through! What was the last dungeon you completed?

Secret Laboratory. I'm at the beginning of November right now with you know who gone missing. Everyone seems to have figured out who the culprit is too.
 
Secret Laboratory. I'm at the beginning of November right now with you know who gone missing. Everyone seems to have figured out who the culprit is too.

What the feck... how are you that far in in such a short space of time? What is your team/levels/social link level?
 
What the feck... how are you that far in in such a short space of time? What is your team/levels/social link level?

I've maxed out Yukiko and Rise social link, everyone else is around 7-8. My current level is 48 and I don't exactly remember levels of people in my team to be fair, they're all around the same as me. My personas are around 40-47.

Wait, so I really am close to finishing it? :(
 
You have potentially 4 more dungeons to complete if you get the best ending. How are you getting through it this quick? I dont know anyone who played less than 60 hours. What difficulty have you got it on? And are you skipping the cutscenes?
 
You have potentially 4 more dungeons to complete if you get the best ending. How are you getting through it this quick? I dont know anyone who played less than 60 hours. What difficulty have you got it on? And are you skipping the cutscenes?

Well I forgot to mention, that's probably the key here - I got it on Easy. I figured that since I've barely played any game like that before I shouldn't really go into it all confident so I've picked Easy. I still had some trouble with a couple of bosses but it hasn't been that hard indeed (plus I care more about the story than actual fighting).

No, I've not skipped a single cut scene so far. I even listen to them all talk and wait until they end their sentences rather than reading them and progressing.
 
Well I forgot to mention, that's probably the key here - I got it on Easy. I figured that since I've barely played any game like that before I shouldn't really go into it all confident so I've picked Easy. I still had some trouble with a couple of bosses but it hasn't been that hard indeed (plus I care more about the story than actual fighting).

No, I've not skipped a single cut scene so far. I even listen to them all talk and wait until they end their sentences rather than reading them and progressing.

I was about level 70 when I got to where you are. If i can give you one bit of advice, max out the marie social link to get an extra dungeon
 
I was about level 70 when I got to where you are. If i can give you one bit of advice, max out the marie social link to get an extra dungeon
Thanks, I've not cared for Marie so far. Oh, and I've maxed out social link with the nurse at the hospital. I am very disappointed with how my relationship with Ai has gone though, at level 8 it goes all wrong.
 
Thanks, I've not cared for Marie so far. Oh, and I've maxed out social link with the nurse at the hospital. I am very disappointed with how my relationship with Ai has gone though, at level 8 it goes all wrong.

I didnt bother with her, I only did the people I had in my party (Yukiko, Yosuke, Rise and Teddie just happens through the story), Dojima and Nanako, and the nurse because the Devil arcana can produce a seriously strong persona and fusing one with a bonus 220,000 xp is helpful to say the least
 
I didnt bother with her, I only did the people I had in my party (Yukiko, Yosuke, Rise and Teddie just happens through the story), Dojima and Nanako, and the nurse because the Devil arcana can produce a seriously strong persona and fusing one with a bonus 220,000 xp is helpful to say the least

Teddie is an awesome character. I've basically got used to all of them, it'll be a weird feeling when the game is finished and I don't get to meet them again.

Is Persona 3 equally cool? I figure it's there for download on PS Store, the PSP version obviously, so I might want to give it a try.
 
Teddie is an awesome character. I've basically got used to all of them, it'll be a weird feeling when the game is finished and I don't get to meet them again.

Is Persona 3 equally cool? I figure it's there for download on PS Store, the PSP version obviously, so I might want to give it a try.

Persona 3 is a good game as well, but its much harder than P4.
 
I'm going to have to give up without finishing most likely, spent 7.5 hours trying to beat the boss at the end of heaven dungeon and I'm not getting any closer. It's ridiculously hard.
 
I'm going to have to give up without finishing most likely, spent 7.5 hours trying to beat the boss at the end of heaven dungeon and I'm not getting any closer. It's ridiculously hard.


Its pretty easy when you have a plan. Teddie should have party buff spells, party attack raising spells, and spells that deplete Kunino Sagiri's defence. Use them all, and re-buff as soon as they finish. Yukiko has party healing spells and a feckload of MP, so she is your designated healer when its needed, or else she can attack as well. Your MC and Yosuke (who I had as my other member) are the main damage dealers, use mind charge and your -dyne spells (agidyne, ziodyne etc) to do maximum damage.

At some point Kunino Sagiri will use quad converge, which will mean he is using only one element and his defence is raised against all other elements. When he does this, whichever element he chooses to attack with will also be the element he is weak against, so just have your MC switch personas to one that has strong spells with and strong defence against that particular element, and have the rest of the team guard each round so that he does minimal damage to them. Sometimes he'll choose an element that is also a strength for another team member (like fire, which Yukiko is strong against) and there'll be no need to guard, because the attack wont inflict too much damage and you can have two characters hitting powerful -dyne spells against his while his defence to those spells are down. Just make sure you heal when the quad converge is finished, and use Teddie to use his buff/drain magics again.

Then he'll take control of one/all of your party members, and they may be used to attack you, or they may just end up doing nothing if you get lucky. I think they only ever get used to do physical damage anyway (dont hold me to that), so you can switch to a persona with high physical resistance and they'll do little damage. Eventually they will come back to you and you dont want to have to use too much healing magic/items unnecessarily, so carry on attacking Kunino Sagiri the same as you have been doing.

Towards the end of the battle Kunino Sagiri will start using Unerring Justice, which will deal heavy damage to all of your characters. The good news though is that he only does this when he has around 1000hp left so you know you're close to the end.

Its more a long battle than a tough one, you just have to remember that at best you can attack with 3 people, and if there are rounds where you have to guard with everyone in order to give your healer a chance to heal you all, then do it. And dont forget that if you switch personas on your MC he can also be used as a secondary healer if needed

I dont know what personas you have. I used Black Frost, Trumpeter and Thor for the last 4-5 dungeons, that was all I needed really. Black Frost in particular is a beast