Why do people assume immediately that he would be the only target?
LVG will have a system in mind. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 or 5 players brought in this summer.
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Why do people assume immediately that he would be the only target?
LVG will have a system in mind. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 or 5 players brought in this summer.
Can't think of anything more than that what we have missed.
Why do you assume we will bring in 4 or 5 players? Logic says we will get a few cheaper players like De Jong and Vermaelen while in January we will bring Strootman in.
Hopefully there's no truth in this and I wouldn't want us to sign just anybody for cm. Obviously we are in dire need of upgrading but I'd hate it if we end up with a player like de Jong.
Van Gaal seems to rate him well when he is starting in midfield for Holland at the World Cup.
The midfield option's he has are crap.
As Truedevil said, he hasn't got any other players to start. He is also playing lot of other worse players than De Jong, doesn't mean he thinks they are great.
At the end of the day, if Van Gaal buys De Jong, we will have to live with it and welcome him into the squad.
I think he's rubbish personally unless you love midfielders going around trying to hurt people. I mean we all loved to run down Fellaini for the same thing so a bit pointless to think of this as a good move.
Aside from his unnecessary aggressiveness, he's clumsy and can't pass.
Aside from his unnecessary aggressiveness, he's clumsy and can't pass.
This is the biggest myth going about him, aggressiveness you can certainly knock him for but he's much more than people seem to give him credit for on here, he's more than just a 'tough tackler' and he's certainly got good technical ability.
I think you need to look up what the word myth means. His very last performance he put in for Holland against Australia was dreadful. Go and watch it again if you must and count the amount of times he lost the ball, struggled to keep composed under pressure or took too long to move the ball on to one of his colleagues. Recent evidence suggests it's far from a 'myth' and I do not consider him to have 'good' technical ability.
How much have you seen of him since he left Man City ?
Matches here or there from Serie A but I admit I don't watch every match he plays. I don't particularly think that's relevant either.
You didn't need to watch all Fellaini's matches last season to know he was pretty useless.
Dreadful? He was arguably Holland's best player.
Not to mention he was key in City's midfield when they won the league.
I'll leave that for the manager to decide. Bottom line is Van Gaal may have his own views of certain players, who he already knows from past experiences, who he thinks can fit well into the system he wants to employ at United.
Dreadful? He was arguably Holland's best player.
Not to mention he was key in City's midfield when they won the league.
Completely disagree. Sneijder was pretty bad and may have pipped him to biggest waste of skin on the pitch but he was still dreadful.
He did a job for City and that's commendable. He was also playing under a very defensive minded manager in Mancini. I don't want that kind of midfielder, the game has moved on. Might aswell grab Tiote from Newcastle.
Don't get me wrong if Van Gaal thinks he can do a job that's fine with me. I just don't have high hopes for a midfield with him in it. To me, there's no difference between using a player like him and Fellaini.
No chance, Sneijder was shite aye but De Jong was brilliant & I'm pretty sure you must have been watching a completely different game considering it's a pretty popular opinion on here..
As well as van Gaal himself saying NDJ should have been MOTM.
Well it wouldn't be the first time. I absolutely disliked Ashley Young before Fergie bought him and was against that transfer, but when we actually bought him of course I wished him very best here. Btw I am not comparing those two by their qualities of course.
Strange logic.
We're one of the top clubs in world football, and the most profitable. Unless the owners have a death wish, why would we settle for cheap players? It's vital for both commercial and football reasons that we make top four next season. If we don't, our image is in danger of going from a great club suffering a temporary blip to a great club in decline. Regardless of Woody's happy talk about Liverpool's continued ability to sell shirts, he and the Glazers know that a fall-off in the teams performance will severely damage the brand, reduce future profits and growth, and lower the club's value. The coming months may be the most important in United's recent history.
Quoting two forum users, brilliant argument. In all seriousness, that's fine if you thought he was good. I know what I saw with my own eyes and the Holland midfield struggled against Australia because they were all pretty poor.
To sum up, I don't want a 'brilliant destroyer' in our midfield. It's backward and not progressive in the slightest. To put in context, some of our best football in recent years has come from a combination of Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick pulling the strings. Neither good at tackling or pressing. Carrick brilliantly read the play, made interceptions and moved the ball on quickly and decisively. Scholes was...well Paul Scholes, ultimately. I expect quality play on the ball from midfielders, regardless of how good their tackling is and all that chest thumping nonsense.
Going by what has been said about Arsenal getting Balotelli from Milan. Think De Jong is going to be quite easy to get.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...o-balotelli-exit-amid-ongoing-arsenal-rumours
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...o-balotelli-exit-amid-ongoing-arsenal-rumours
A left back and centre half are a certainty. The club will surely want at least one, possibly two midfielders. I suspect strongly that LVG wants at least one wide player as well given the players available to him and how he seems to like his teams to play on the counter. That makes five.
That doesn't take into account squad players who might be moved on.
"Logic" dictates that he will need other players to take the club on, as well as the obvious fact that he evidently has money to spend given the type of players the club were chasing under Moyes.
At the quoted price he'd be a very good signing and would give us something extra going into the tougher games. I won't mind him here though I'd worry if he's the only midfielder we'll sign this summer.
De Jong has at least one thing that makes him better than Fellaini:
A degree of awareness of where to position himself on the pitch. He's limited too, but at least he's actually a midifelder who thinks like a midfielder, which can't really be said of Fellaini.
It's all a bit speculative, but Van Gaal may simply want an experienced player he is familiar with, who he knows can do a job in the system he wants to employ at United.
MEN like the cut of his jib.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ball-news/nigel-de-jong-would-perfect-7308162
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ball-news/nigel-de-jong-would-perfect-7308162
Better than Anderson or Cleverley
heard LvG wants him to cover a transition period because he is available for only £6m. Why not sign the future right now with William?
I'd rather wait one or two more season to be at the top again. Let us invest in youth!
I'd rather wait one or two more season to be at the top again. Let us invest in youth!
If we were competing in Europe, I would welcome this for the reported fee but with only the league to concentrate on, I think the money can be invested more wisely.
The ignorance surrounding this player is hilarious but carry on keep placing people in boxes. We should go for Fabregas instead... Oh wait maybe Kroos
Like him or not he's a solid DM who is twice the player of anyone in our midfield. We finished pretty much mid table last season who do people think we are going to sign? Our main aim is to get a squad together that can get back into the Champions league. If he's good enough for Van Gaal I'd be happy to see him here.
Like him or not he's a solid DM who is twice the player of anyone in our midfield. We finished pretty much mid table last season who do people think we are going to sign? Our main aim is to get a squad together that can get back into the Champions league. If he's good enough for Van Gaal I'd be happy to see him here.
What do you think City fans would think of this if it were to eventuate?
I think its more that he is an on field cnut that most have an issue withThe ignorance surrounding this player is hilarious but carry on keep placing people in boxes. We should go for Fabregas instead... Oh wait maybe Kroos
Like him or not he's a solid DM who is twice the player of anyone in our midfield. We finished pretty much mid table last season who do people think we are going to sign? Our main aim is to get a squad together that can get back into the Champions league. If he's good enough for Van Gaal I'd be happy to see him here.
De Jong is a fantastic player, I'd take him here in a heartbeat!
Because William is about five to six times more expensive?
If he wasn't Dutch, this wouldn't be in the paper.
This. It's getting ridiculously silly now and it's only going to get worse now that England are out of the World Cup.
The way LVG sets up with attacking fullbacks and one of his centrebacks stepping up into midfield at times, you need a solid anchor, if not two in the middle of the park. People expecting Fabregas/Kroos type signings in there better get used to NDJ, Gustavo or similar type players being pursued.
Would not be surprised at all, or indeed disappointed, to see NDJ + Carrick as our midfield base on the opening day of the season.
Would not be surprised at all, or indeed disappointed, to see NDJ + Carrick as our midfield base on the opening day of the season.
Did you watch that game? De Jong [And I don't even rate him] was one of their best player that day, broke up play excellently and passed it very well.
Entitled to that view of course but yes I did watch the match from start to finish and seen him feck up multiple times. The entire Dutch midfield was shocking.
What about Gary Medel as an alternative?
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