Nicolas Pepe - Signs for Arsenal

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Not having this one.
Smacks of his agent trying to secure a transfer off the back of potentially a career-best season.
 
Let me get this right.... United fans moan for years about not having a RW and then we are linked with a RW and they are not happy...
It's one of those transfers where the forum thinks he's trash if we were to buy him but the forum gets outraged if someone else like Liverpool or spurs buy him and we didn't.
 
:confused: I never said this argument started by you quoting me. Seriously this is getting tedious. I'm done.

I am saying it started with you quoting my post which it did.

Anyway my point was.

1) The club is looking at RW if this report is true, its a good thing
2) Many people have formulated an opinion on a player based on youtube clips (as evidenced in the thread) not good
3) Why are people moaning about signing a player in a position we need, when they haven't seen much of the player, doesn't make sense

If you don't fit in those categories, it wasn't aimed at you, it was a general comment based on my observations of activities in this thread over the past few weeks
 
Already talked about him but I'm with @JPRouve on this one. I'm a big fan of Pépé.

He basically passed all the tests in Ligue 1 (save them when they were relegation fodder, then a great season with some markee performance against best teams in France).

His season was exceptional, as 22 goals and 11 assists are numbers only accomplished by PSG stars (Zlatan, Mbappé, Neymar) or Eden Hazard for the past 20 years (and more). He scored a lot of penalty but I think like 6 or 7 of them were provoked by him.

No idea what is his ceiling or floor level. All I can say is that he was the best offensive player this past Ligue 1 season after Mbappé, and he has a top mentality, a very brave player.

So yes it's one of those typical signing involving a risk, and like everytime in those case :
- It was his ceiling and will be flop
- Everybody will say how it was a genius move and how it was obvious if he's great...

This was what I was waiting for, someone who has watched him week in, week out.

He’s big, fast, and skilled. Paying 70m for anybody is a risk, but unfortunately, that’s the cost of doing business these days. There are maybe 5-10 players worldwide who would not be a risk, everyone else is.

Look at the Sanchez signing, a guy that ticked all the boxes. PL pedigree - check. Winner - check. Skilled - check. Goal scorer - check. High work rate - check. And he’s been abysmal.

My point is, we’ll never know until we sign him. I can say that Mata and Lingard are not the answers at RW. James looks like he needs more seasoning.

At this point in time, we just need to get some signings over the line. Bruno, Maguire, Pepe, whoever.

I don’t worry about Pepe earning his time. I think both Sanchez and Martial will be offloaded over the next few transfer windows.
 
I am saying it started with you quoting my post which it did.

Anyway my point was.

1) The club is looking at RW if this report is true, its a good thing
2) Many people have formulated an opinion on a player based on youtube clips (as evidenced in the thread) not good
3) Why are people moaning about signing a player in a position we need, when they haven't seen much of the player, doesn't make sense

If you don't fit in those categories, it wasn't aimed at you, it was a general comment based on my observations of activities in this thread over the past few weeks

We won't sign him though we have James and Rashford and Lingard and Sanchez and Martial who all can play wide in a 3 . People keep saying we need a RW but we don't play 442 anymore so we don't need a RW and there is absolutely no hope we will sign this guy
 
This again seems like agents/ clubs are involving United's name in a hope that someone will cough up the cash.
 
Don't think there's legit interest but to those who are against this signing who are you more content with Mata or Lingard down the wing ?

Many opinions on here are stated as if we have strong width in the team, the reality is it's been an issue for years securing Pepe for a reasonable fee is not at all a disgrace because he would be the best right winger we have purchased in the last decade.
 
I had to ask myself if Woodward and board are ready to splash possibly more than 100m on Sancho next summer, when in the same time they're not too keen on paying significantly less for Maguire.

Being after Pepe could be best compromise between price and actual talent which is clearly seen... but anyway, still far away from signing anybody this summer at this point.
 
We won't sign him though we have James and Rashford and Lingard and Sanchez and Martial who all can play wide in a 3 . People keep saying we need a RW but we don't play 442 anymore so we don't need a RW and there is absolutely no hope we will sign this guy

None of them are comfortable on the right in a 433
 
I had to ask myself if Woodward and board are ready to splash possibly more than 100m on Sancho next summer, when they're not too keen on paying significantly less for Maguire.
Sancho has the ability to be a generational talent and a superstar. I can imagine the the board will be far more willing to invest in that than they are a CB.
 
Sancho is being way overrated on here . Yes he is good but so was Deli Ali in his first year. I don't think Pepe is worth 70 m but if he does what Mane did for Liverpool then cool . No real guarantee Sancho wants come to United anyway
 
Sancho has the ability to be a generational talent and a superstar. I can imagine the the board will be far more willing to invest in that than they are a CB.
City or Pool and especially Chelsea who lost Hazard could pay that for him, too. We have to be 100% sure we will get Sancho in the bag before others, or perhaps we can even lose opportunity to get Sancho or Pepe.
 
City or Pool and especially Chelsea who lost Hazard could pay that for him, too. We have to be 100% sure we will get Sancho in the bag before others, or perhaps we can even lose opportunity to get Sancho or Pepe.
:confused: That wasn’t the point you made though. You were questioning whether we would genuinely splash the cash for him when we are negotiating for Maguire. Just highlighting the difference between the two.
 
:confused: That wasn’t the point you made though. You were questioning whether we would genuinely splash the cash for him when we are negotiating for Maguire. Just highlighting the difference between the two.
I agree with you on Sancho's talent but I'm also trying to grasp whole gravity of the situation, because if Sancho is generational talent which is more and more glaring possibility, you can bet other clubs will go after him... and so far we tend to lose these bidding battles.
 
None of them are comfortable on the right in a 433

James is more than comfortable playing there and saying that is where Lingard plays most the time I wouldn't say there are uncomfortable there
 
James is more than comfortable playing there and saying that is where Lingard plays most the time I wouldn't say there are uncomfortable there

Lingard certainly isn't comfortable there (or maybe the right words are good enough) there

Need to see more of James but from what I saw he looks far more comfortable on the LW same as the rest of them.

Saying that I don’t believe James was supposed to be a first team regular.

We need a competent RF to occupy that spot I hope we get someone this summer if Lukaku leaves
 
Don't think there's legit interest but to those who are against this signing who are you more content with Mata or Lingard down the wing ?

Many opinions on here are stated as if we have strong width in the team, the reality is it's been an issue for years securing Pepe for a reasonable fee is not at all a disgrace because he would be the best right winger we have purchased in the last decade.


They're writing off another season in terms of having a RW to speak of in the vain hope we get a player the following summer with no basis in reality.
 
Is there any industry in the world that gets away with such bullshite as football journalism. 98% of anything they say or write this summer is fiction. They are like a pack of schoolboys behind the bike shed swapping panini cards.

Can we blame them or should we, as fans, blame ourselves? We are constantly refreshing our twitter feed waiting for news content. We get 'bored of the saga' if we don't hear anything about a transfer news. The shitposters on twitter handsomely beat real journalism due to the volume of their posts. The journalists are constantly under pressure to produce content a few times a day when in truth, there's not a whole lot of news that comes during a day. We refuse to pay for news anymore anymore and clickbaits are the only way to generate revenue.
 
Can we blame them or should we, as fans, blame ourselves? We are constantly refreshing our twitter feed waiting for news content. We get 'bored of the saga' if we don't hear anything about a transfer news. The shitposters on twitter handsomely beat real journalism due to the volume of their posts. The journalists are constantly under pressure to produce content a few times a day when in truth, there's not a whole lot of news that comes during a day. We refuse to pay for news anymore anymore and clickbaits are the only way to generate revenue.
Firstly, I am not going to pay for news and secondly, I am not going to take the blame for the shit football journalists write. If it makes you feel better then you can blame yourself.
 
Lingard certainly isn't comfortable there (or maybe the right words are good enough) there

Need to see more of James but from what I saw he looks far more comfortable on the LW same as the rest of them.

Saying that I don’t believe James was supposed to be a first team regular.

We need a competent RF to occupy that spot I hope we get someone this summer if Lukaku leaves

James is more than capable paying there and I agree Lingard isn't good enough anywhere but he won't be sold so its a position he can play . I think we need other places strengthened before we even look at that position.
 
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Not sure if reliable or not but yahoo sport france just tweeted that our bid for Pepe has been rejected by Lille but terms have been agreed with the player.

Napoli are in for him as well and the player is well admired by ancelotti.
 


It heats around Nicolas Pepe! Firm offer (refused by LOSC) from Man Utd. Player, him, already ok with the English club.
Naples still racing, Ancelotti very much appreciates the player. The exchanges are multiplying these last hours
 
Already talked about him but I'm with @JPRouve on this one. I'm a big fan of Pépé.

He basically passed all the tests in Ligue 1 (save them when they were relegation fodder, then a great season with some markee performance against best teams in France).

His season was exceptional, as 22 goals and 11 assists are numbers only accomplished by PSG stars (Zlatan, Mbappé, Neymar) or Eden Hazard for the past 20 years (and more). He scored a lot of penalty but I think like 6 or 7 of them were provoked by him.

No idea what is his ceiling or floor level. All I can say is that he was the best offensive player this past Ligue 1 season after Mbappé, and he has a top mentality, a very brave player.

So yes it's one of those typical signing involving a risk, and like everytime in those case :
- It was his ceiling and will be flop
- Everybody will say how it was a genius move and how it was obvious if he's great...

How is his decision-making? I'm always a bit wary of wingers/wide-forwards who tend to do dumb stuff, they end up frustrating their team-mates and the fans, whatever skills they bring to the table. If he's a more mature decision-maker then great, as he can clearly finish (including with his head which is a bonus) and work the inside channel.
 
Sancho has the ability to be a generational talent and a superstar. I can imagine the the board will be far more willing to invest in that than they are a CB.

After seeing what ONE central defender can do to a club (VVD -> CL win), boards of various teams may be far more likely to invest in CBs. The world of football haven’t seen such immediate effect of one player on team results for many a year.
 
Sancho is being way overrated on here . Yes he is good but so was Deli Ali in his first year. I don't think Pepe is worth 70 m but if he does what Mane did for Liverpool then cool . No real guarantee Sancho wants come to United anyway

Sancho is much better than Pepe from what I've seen of them two. I'd be much more comfortable with Sancho than Pepe. I wouldn't mind both though!
 
I like how the "Welcome to Manchester United" videos are already being compiled in the past day :lol:

 
We can't afford Maguire until we sell Lukaku, this isn't happening.

We can afford the entire LCFC squad if we want it, our net spending the last couple of years is not that much and we are nowhere near struggling to meet FFP. I have my doubts our owners want to spend but if we don't sign players it is not because we can't afford them.
 
Don't believe the links to him at all, don't think we're even after an attacker tbh, especially as it seems unlikely that Inter can afford Lukaku.
 
We can afford the entire LCFC squad if we want it, our net spending the last couple of years is not that much and we are nowhere near struggling to meet FFP. I have my doubts our owners want to spend but if we don't sign players it is not because we can't afford them.
We're not going to spend anyway.
 
We can't afford Maguire until we sell Lukaku, this isn't happening.

We can EASILY afford not just Maguire, but four Maguires. The only thing required is owners’ permission, monies per se are available
 
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